Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

[Julia Sky]

I haven't read any of the comments so far, but I'll say one thing : the article mentions a 17 year old. A MINOR.

And yet, the seasoned slobbyists on here LOVE telling us that we're just jealous, jaded independents when we say that agencies are not all that or ideal and that agency owners *are* pimps. Yall need to realize the way bookers interact with you (who they see as a walking wallet, in fact one of 10 wallets that day for the woman youre trying to meet) and the way agency escorts talk to you about the agency are not representative of reality. Many of them have no idea how to go independent and shit talking the agency can not only put them in trouble, it can also mean clients stop supporting the agency, which in turn would affect her income.

Yall are the LAST people to know how it really goes down at agencies. Yall are quite literally the customers they're selling the fantasy to. Food for thought.

Now I'll go roll a joint and read the comments lol.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yeah. Of course providers look happy.. Particularly at very strict and abusive agencies where you will be punished if you get a bad review or give ''bad service''. Part of the work of being a provider is making the client comfortable, we can't welcome him looking depressed and sad.. We know very well what is complained about in reviews. ''she was cold'' (she was scared and sad and had just gotten assaulted)

 

[boboi]

I am not gonna shame people for using agencies, the value proposition is very strong:
1- Most Indys are 30+ very rare to find Indy in her 20
2- pound for pound, Indys charge around double
3- Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right, which is a big deal for busy people.
4- they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

 

[LC18]

Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right

Yes, cause women are basically merchandise. One isn't available? We'll replace her, the client is king

 

[Alicemay]

I am not gonna shame people for using agencies, the value proposition is very strong:
1- Most Indys are 30+ very rare to find Indy in her 20
2- pound for pound, Indys charge around double
3- Agencies have multiple choices and if the girl cancels they will make it right, which is a big deal for busy people.
4- they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

That doesnt include transportation, if you have a chauffeur you have to pay him to even it’s rhe agency chauffeur.

 

[Alicemay]

That doesnt include transportation, if you have a chauffeur you have to pay him to even it’s rhe agency chauffeur.

My day in agency it’s was 50% at least

 

[LC18]

they do have an overhead and 80$ an hour cut for agencies seems reasonable (rent, marketing, unhappy customers, transportation)

You know very well they could charge less than that with how many women were on their rooster

 

[boboi]

Yes, cause women are basically merchandise. One isn't available? We'll replace her, the client is king

I think this logic applies to many industries, I know that it's easy to make it personal in the hobby, but the same reason people go to a studio for massage therapy vs 1 person operation, or hire a cleaning agency, or hire a big business for construction work vs a dude on marketplace.
I am just trying to explain the flip side, personally I don't use agencies.

 

[Smokemeal2]

But I didn't know there were penalties and fees for being late or not going to an appointment. It may lead to coercion.

I can confirm this was the second version of XO. Not the first one.

The famous Jennifer (back to 2015, 2016 era if I remember well) was ALWAYS late but didn't pay any fees haha

 

[Smokemeal2]

You know very well they could charge less than that with how many women were on their rooster

They could, but they need to make money too. A lot of it. And they need protection.

For the years I have seen girls at the agency, I could generally categorize them into 2 groups.

The hot moneymaker. This one was a student and was great at being an escort, but not to be fooled, they were there for 1 to 2 years max and racked up 300k or more.

The hot troublemaker. This one was a party animal, like. They were great escorts, but you could feel it was not leading up to anything good. Too much booze, smokes, drugs...

 

[LC18]

"Why didn't they say something sooner?"

You've read the article and you're still here justifying the agency's actions, that's probably why no one spoke about their work conditions

 

[hob12]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

 

[Georgy07]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

 

[Julia Sky]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

There are Independents with lower prices. There are also people with morals who, regardless of the industry, don't mind spending more or putting more effort to get something ethical. There are also expensive indies, yes, just as there are also people who don't mind turning a blind eye to the possibility of abusive work conditions if it means they get a less expensive, more convenient booking experience.

The lack of screening and the lack of fucks given are some of the main reasons why people experience traumatic bullshit at agencies. Or in this industry in general. I used to be someone who didn't screen. It was not a pretty time for me as an escort.

 

[CLOUD 500]

This could be the beginning of the end of agencies. XO was one. But police could go after others if they receive complaints. This means that the hobby will become very similar to the US. The agencies are the biggest reason that prices remained very competitive. Agencies are also very convenient, no government ID or deposit needed.

 

[LC18]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Probably because of the men always asking for younger and younger girls. Always complaining that women are expired as soon as they turn 22

 

[TheJames101]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Do they all? Hopefully not, but one can't know. I just truly hope I never encountered one in the few times I used xo (only 6 or 7 times total). It saddens me to hear how some there were treated. Awful that minors were involved - just morally unforgivable.

 

[hob12]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

 

[LC18]

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

Le systeme de justice, de police et la bureaucratie

 

[nothinghere]

What a freaking story omg undercover prostitutes undercover clients and undercover dad!!?? Agency suspects driving around in a unregistered vehicle how ingenious!!?? And the police managed to search the vehicle on what grounds I wonder? I think that new bill C46 was active where police can search anyone for any reason. They pushed it to the limits in that condo complex it brings Flashbacks to early 2000's I was seeing so many girls from Asservissante that a neighbour threaten to report me to DPG Quebec and police yea residential areas are now really sketch to invite escorts the neighbours always seem to know and now with this article residents will have an extra eye everywhere.