Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

[boboi]

Yes, cause women are basically merchandise. One isn't available? We'll replace her, the client is king

I think this logic applies to many industries, I know that it's easy to make it personal in the hobby, but the same reason people go to a studio for massage therapy vs 1 person operation, or hire a cleaning agency, or hire a big business for construction work vs a dude on marketplace.
I am just trying to explain the flip side, personally I don't use agencies.

 

[Smokemeal2]

But I didn't know there were penalties and fees for being late or not going to an appointment. It may lead to coercion.

I can confirm this was the second version of XO. Not the first one.

The famous Jennifer (back to 2015, 2016 era if I remember well) was ALWAYS late but didn't pay any fees haha

 

[Smokemeal2]

You know very well they could charge less than that with how many women were on their rooster

They could, but they need to make money too. A lot of it. And they need protection.

For the years I have seen girls at the agency, I could generally categorize them into 2 groups.

The hot moneymaker. This one was a student and was great at being an escort, but not to be fooled, they were there for 1 to 2 years max and racked up 300k or more.

The hot troublemaker. This one was a party animal, like. They were great escorts, but you could feel it was not leading up to anything good. Too much booze, smokes, drugs...

 

[LC18]

"Why didn't they say something sooner?"

You've read the article and you're still here justifying the agency's actions, that's probably why no one spoke about their work conditions

 

[hob12]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

 

[Georgy07]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

 

[Julia Sky]

The agency vs indy debate is a bit pointless. Bottom line its about price and convenience for the clients. With an agency you only have to nurture one relationship vs one with each indy who often ask things like references or pictures of IDs. Its a more complicated environment. Prices are also way out there in many cases.

There are Independents with lower prices. There are also people with morals who, regardless of the industry, don't mind spending more or putting more effort to get something ethical. There are also expensive indies, yes, just as there are also people who don't mind turning a blind eye to the possibility of abusive work conditions if it means they get a less expensive, more convenient booking experience.

The lack of screening and the lack of fucks given are some of the main reasons why people experience traumatic bullshit at agencies. Or in this industry in general. I used to be someone who didn't screen. It was not a pretty time for me as an escort.

 

[CLOUD 500]

This could be the beginning of the end of agencies. XO was one. But police could go after others if they receive complaints. This means that the hobby will become very similar to the US. The agencies are the biggest reason that prices remained very competitive. Agencies are also very convenient, no government ID or deposit needed.

 

[LC18]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Probably because of the men always asking for younger and younger girls. Always complaining that women are expired as soon as they turn 22

 

[TheJames101]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Do they all? Hopefully not, but one can't know. I just truly hope I never encountered one in the few times I used xo (only 6 or 7 times total). It saddens me to hear how some there were treated. Awful that minors were involved - just morally unforgivable.

 

[hob12]

To each their own i guess.... I just think it would be better if agencies didnt hire 17 year olds girls... I mean .. What the fuck ?!

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

 

[LC18]

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

Le systeme de justice, de police et la bureaucratie

 

[nothinghere]

What a freaking story omg undercover prostitutes undercover clients and undercover dad!!?? Agency suspects driving around in a unregistered vehicle how ingenious!!?? And the police managed to search the vehicle on what grounds I wonder? I think that new bill C46 was active where police can search anyone for any reason. They pushed it to the limits in that condo complex it brings Flashbacks to early 2000's I was seeing so many girls from Asservissante that a neighbour threaten to report me to DPG Quebec and police yea residential areas are now really sketch to invite escorts the neighbours always seem to know and now with this article residents will have an extra eye everywhere.

 

[Georgy07]

Obviously and XO paid dearly for that and other fuck ups.Though I noticed that in the article that this happened in 2017 while the investigation started in 2024. Makes you wonder if that particular allegation has any legs. If yes then why did the cops waited 7 years?

Yeah well, 18 is really young too. If i had an agency (Which will never happen) i would make it 25 +

 

[Gazoo64]

Scary stuff!

Probably a good time to take a break from this hobby, or at the very least not see agency SPs.

Lately I’ve been seeing mostly Indies anyway.

 

[maladras]

I was always kind of uncomfortable with agencies, I understand they can be beneficial in some cases but they're also more likely to involve exploitative situations. I guess I'll stick with indies, this is just another reason.

 

[boboi]

Yeah well, 18 is really young too. If i had an agency (Which will never happen) i would make it 25 +

There's young men that hobby and want someone in that age range.
But of course there's also creepy old men that don't care.

 

[LC18]

and now with this article residents will have an extra eye everywhere.

That’s what you took from that article? Not the fact that women were exploited and that the agency didn’t mind hiring a minor?

You’re just worried that people won’t be able to have fuck-o-thons anymore

 

[CLOUD 500]

I am glad I have not used an agency in a long while. I had plans to book one but now I will leave it. I will not book Indys for sure. I rather to other things. Perhaps MPs and of course there are stripclubs.

 

[LC18]

There's young men that hobby and want someone in that age range.
But of course there's also creepy old men that don't care.

Fair, but do you really think most of the clients hiring 18-19 yo are that age themselves?