The Bitching thread
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Did someone from MERB "abuse" a SW? Who? What happened? Who was the victim? When did this happen? Where did this happen?
Without any details or any suggestion that anyone from MERB was involved, posts by one client reminding all other clients not to out escorts to their friends and family are meaningless. Did anyone here say that he did that or would do that? How would someone even know who are the friends and family members of an escort?
We don't need any more "reminders" like this.
I hesitated for a long time before writing the comment above that the Capt refers to. One reason was that I felt I sounded like a preacher. I don't like preachers, but it seems I have to admit that I might be one myself, sorry.
Another reason was that I knew the clients on MERB are all perfect gentlemen and that this comment couldn't possibly apply to any of them (no, I just made that up).
If this comment helps even one SP to quickly silence a harassing client, or make even one client think twice before doing something they might regret, then it will have been worthwhile. Otherwise, it will have been nothing but empty words that will soon be forgotten, so no harm done then.
I believe that it's not difficult in the age of social media to find personal information about a SP. I'm pretty sure I could easily find personal information on every SP's I've met more than once (and there are several).
That is all I have to say about this subject.
Deposits. There are multiple threads about clients not wanting to send deposits. I understand this perspective if you've been scammed before, but from my point of view, I get punished often enough for not requiring them.
Since Monday of last week, 3 different bookings were cancelled, all 2h+ sessions. I was looking forward to them and made space in my schedule.
It gets annoying when people don't treat my time as important. I often end up finding out the client was lying and wasted my time, or it feels like he's either not telling the truth although I have no proof. It's inconsiderate. This is my job, this isn't a Tinder date you're cancelling...
It says on my website I have a cancellation fee but I will say that only a very small percentage of clients pay it.
Since Monday of last week, 3 different bookings were cancelled, all 2h+ sessions. I was looking forward to them and made space in my schedule.
It gets annoying when people don't treat my time as important. I often end up finding out the client was lying and wasted my time, or it feels like he's either not telling the truth although I have no proof. It's inconsiderate. This is my job, this isn't a Tinder date you're cancelling...
It says on my website I have a cancellation fee but I will say that only a very small percentage of clients pay it.
so, you should require deposits and refuse bookings from those who don't pay them. There will be clarity that way. The people who refuse to pay deposits won't book you but you won't get complaints from those that do and you'll never be completely out of pocket even if cancellations are a pain in the ass. It just comes down to whether the money gained from deposits offsets any lost bookings. I have no idea. People have different philosophies so maybe it's less frustrating to cater to those who share yours and leave the others to other providers. Less stressful in any case.
I never pay deposits but I totally understand and empathize with those who ask for them even if my preferences don't align with theirs.
I never refused to send deposits. Actually, I sent one to the first SP I met, even though she didn't ask for it
. Meeting her was a big deal for me and I wanted her to know that I was serious. Its easy for a client to check if a SP is for real. MERB's reviews, Montreal Indy Companion website, the quality of the SP's website and sometimes, I use the Way back machine to check how long the SP had a website. Mind you, I only see Independents. If I were to see SP's from LL or other no so reliable sources, I would be very cautious.I think it should be routine that if you do not have a reference from a wellknown provider, you should expect to send a deposit. After all, we are not paying months in advance, usually it is a few days before the actual encounter. I believe the likelihood of a new client cancelling or worst yet, not showing up is pretty high if he refuses to send a deposit.
I don't recommend sending a deposit if the person didn't ask for one because it can feel like we're being pressured, but I get what you're saying.I never refused to send deposits. Actually, I sent one to the first SP I met, even though she didn't ask for it
I think it should be routine that if you do not have a reference from a wellknown provider, you should expect to send a deposit. After all, we are not paying months in advance, usually it is a few days before the actual encounter. I believe the likelihood of a new client cancelling or worst yet, not showing up is pretty high if he refuses to send a deposit.
It is fairly easy to see if somebody is legit or not but I've heard clients bitch and moan about one well known provider out of many they booked who cancelled the date and didn't refund the deposit. I can understand why it's upsetting if the amount is very big. But I don't think that is common. And honesty as a client you should be willing to pay a cancellation fee if the provider doesn't ask for a deposit.
It's not always new clients who cancel or don't show up, unfortunately. Some clients get really comfortable and keep switching dates or changing the time. Really often it's these same types of people who cancel. And once again even if I get a reference from a well known provider, that doesn't mean the client will be respectful to me, and vice versa.
It's very common. Every monger with any experience that I know has lost a deposit at some point or another. It's not a question of if but when for most people. I know multiple people who have lost multiple deposits.
Totally agree. That's just courtesy and common decency. The amount of the fee may be a point of contention though. Do clients try to negotiate cancellation fees with you or do they most commonly simply not pay them?
1) Sending a deposit is pointless. There are providers who will see you without it, and you can go to an agency who doesn't require it. Zero point to send a deposit, ever
2) Getting upset at a SW is pointless. I understand that as a monger, if you have a sour experience, it's very annoying.
My method to deal getting an unsatisfactory experience with a provider is simple. I just never see her again, that's it.
I remember her face so I'll know who she is. Therefore I just never book her again. It's really that easy
2) Getting upset at a SW is pointless. I understand that as a monger, if you have a sour experience, it's very annoying.
My method to deal getting an unsatisfactory experience with a provider is simple. I just never see her again, that's it.
I remember her face so I'll know who she is. Therefore I just never book her again. It's really that easy
I don't normally post on this thread but what grinds my gears is not SP related but the never ending road construction & closed roads on St.Catherine street.
From St. Mathieu street to Peel, all closed! Ridiculous.
I'm so tired of it. Why can't they just finish it already???
I walk by the several closed off city blocks on St.Catherine and for many days, I see no construction happening. Clearly the corrupt Construction workers are not in a hurry to finish the job...all the while they're hurting all the businesses along St.Catherine.
What a joke!
I bet it won't be even finished this year.
Can't even go for a normal walk on St.Catherine
From St. Mathieu street to Peel, all closed! Ridiculous.
I'm so tired of it. Why can't they just finish it already???
I walk by the several closed off city blocks on St.Catherine and for many days, I see no construction happening. Clearly the corrupt Construction workers are not in a hurry to finish the job...all the while they're hurting all the businesses along St.Catherine.
What a joke!
I bet it won't be even finished this year.
Can't even go for a normal walk on St.Catherine
We're able to go to Chez Paré?
Yup! LolWe're able to go to Chez Paré?
Got 2 dances with 2 different girls! Lol
It's such a funny response to what I said earlier because I was talking about my income and the stability of my schedule being affected by so many cancellations.
Just mentioning the word 'deposit' on here pulls all the wild, alarmist responses from out of the woodwork. Deposits aren't scary coming from established and well-reviewed providers (such as yourself), nor for clients that do their research and plan accordingly. Whether or not you implement them is a choice you have to make for your business but for what it's worth I think it would likely cut down on some of those bs no-shows without too much disruption to other clients. Good clients that respect your time probably wouldn't have an issue with it.
Bc I usually have to book far in advance for when I travel (or when women are travelling my way) I am used to putting down a deposit and I definitely don't mind it. It feels more official and set in the calendar and builds anticipation. I've never been burned with a deposit yet either so they don't faze me.
Yesterday slept at 1, woke up at 4:30 and wasn't able to sleep back.
Somehow I made lot of horny dreams. Very pleasant ones but I prefer sleeping more
Unfortunately, there are many disadvantages for me to implement deposits. When it comes to BDSM sessions I absolutely have to enforce them because there are too many times wasters..
With escorting, a lot of serious clients don't want to screen and send deposits, unfortunately. That's what the scene is like here. Or if somebody wants to send a deposit, they want to send it in gift card form. It makes me uneasy because it limits how I spend that money...
Anyways the point is mostly that I'm disappointed by having multi hour bookings cancelled.
Maybe you already do this but, the other providers you are comfortable with and trust enough should set up a way to exchange gift cards between yourselves for cash or other gift card you might need at that time.
There are Visa gift cards, Amazon and other large stores where you can buy nearly anything.
Its not common practice..
You can't buy anything with an Amazon gift card which is what most people offer, that's not true.
Even with a virtual Visa gift card, you can't pay off your own credit card, you can't pay a bill, you can't buy a bus/metro pass, you can't buy a plane ticket etc etc. A lot of stores don't take gift cards as payment too. And you can't send money to someone or pay them for a service.
If your boss decided to pay some of your wages in gift cards wouldn't you be pissed?
I hate how the public healthcare system forces you to go private for a lot of issues but then criticizes you for it. Yes, I’m gonna pay 4000$ for this service, a service that the public can’t offer me anyway so I shouldn’t receive backclash from any healthcare representative about it
Yeah. That's been a huge problem all my life when I couldn't afford going private, and a major cause of financial stress for me in the last few year when I decided to finally get private healthcare services... With the money I make as a SP and couldn't make any other way.
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