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Yeah. She is the only one I can think of that market herself as autistic. Gorgeous but seem to be rage baiting a lot. Very off-putting
It's embarrassing honestly because there is a false stereotype that autistic people lack empathy.. I've seen her make posts in favor of eugenics too which is very strange. I blocked her a long time ago. It's giving Grimes & Elon vibes
 

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That could be me lol
Or help with any technology related issues ...

But as a random thoughts I did think about testing the waters of companionship or boyfriend for hire. I've a background in technology and I grew up helping everyone. Somehow I tend to have mainly female friends to discuss and listen about anything and I really like to curate and plan experiences. I actually enjoy seeing people happy instead of me enjoying it myself.
In Japan there are brothels for women clients and boyfriends for incall and outcall
 

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Interesting fact : the movie "breakfast at Tiffany's" is about 2 sex workers falling in love. I've been compared to Audrey Hepburn in a review lol. Now with all the tattoos I'm not sure if the comparison still works.. but yeah. This is the subtext of the movie.. the main character is a "high end" escort of sorts and her love interest is an older woman's sugar baby. A lot of people don't know this because of censorship (and not being able to read between the lines)
 
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Romance is cultural anchored in Asia. You can see it in the entertainment like music or TV everything is almost revolving around that subject (at some point I was quite sick to always listening to songs about love lool). But the irony is that those media convey these fantasies whereas reality is different. Maybe that's where the market is: evocating situations or stories about love and romance where the reality does not offer it and they can dwell into it.
That's also why at some point (especially for K-pop) the singers are forbidden contractually to have any sort of relationship with someone because it will break the fans' fantasy. Obviously it will sell less and the fan base will decrease.

For female sex workers being clients of male escort/host it's not surprising. There is a serie of movie from Hong Kong on this topic. It's made as a comedy but the message behind is sad actually. There were 3 movies the first one being Golden chicken
As for the movie name, in Chinese a "chicken" refers to a female SW as a slang and "duck" for male SW.

The mid-high school girl phenomenon is another issue. It's cultural and for me it's associated to sexual aggression. Better not discuss about it here ...
In college a mainlander friend (I know in Hong Kong Cantonese is big and mainland Mandarin and Hong Kong Cantonese have different slang as I study languages) told me "dog" means male sex worker in mainlander slang. He said he was very shocked when he found out that dog is used very differently in the English speaking world.
 

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In college a mainlander friend (I know in Hong Kong Cantonese is big and mainland Mandarin and Hong Kong Cantonese have different slang as I study languages) told me "dog" means male sex worker in mainlander slang. He said he was very shocked when he found out that dog is used very differently in the English speaking world.
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It's actually very common in Hong Kong and the choice is actually scarier (by the number). Now that I think about it, here I find interesting that the escort industry is very different from over there. In Hong Kong due to a law loophole it is allowed to have a one-woman brothel because a SW can work on their own. But there SWs are like "commodities" because of the huge number and the low entry price (we are talking about less than 50-60$).
Thinking about it I find it extremely creepy and less glamorous below a picture of how it looks from the building corridor:
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That's maybe why I never had an inch of interest to partake in this even out of curiosity.

Yes I'm Asia the whole concept of getting married, having children is heavy. I know Chinese girls who wanted at any cost to get married before the dreadful 35-40 y.o. some of my classmates found their "soulmates" thank to this (and also thanks to idolization of male westerners...) . My quick rant on South Korea, most of the Korean TV series are around love stories and it disgruntled and bother me when as a guestimate South Korea has the most domestic violence in Asia. The way they work the soft power versus the reality disgust me.

I got lost on my train of thinking... Let me come back to enjoying the summer lol
"idolization of male westerners"

I've met multiple Asian women who trash talk about Asian men and boast about only dating White men. At least three. It's sad. I never hear Black women bragging about only dating a specific ethnicity but maybe they do. It's sad how media is like 90% of what shapes what people are into.
 

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Yeah. She is the only one I can think of that market herself as autistic. Gorgeous but seem to be rage baiting a lot. Very off-putting

Sophie Margiela? lol paste as plain text doesn't work

There are some that market their self as autistic that aren't irritating. In Canada and the US most providers on the spectrum don't market their self that way for safety reasons but allegedly in the Netherlands and some other places it's not that dangerous to reference being autistic in an ad. I'm not a Dutch provider but I have heard that from providers outside the US and Canada.

 

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It's embarrassing honestly because there is a false stereotype that autistic people lack empathy.. I've seen her make posts in favor of eugenics too which is very strange. I blocked her a long time ago. It's giving Grimes & Elon vibes
I remember seeing that eugenics post. She got called out by another SP who happened to be a biologist. She is friend with Aella, that is all one needs to know about what kind of person she is
 
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Sophie Margiela? lol paste as plain text doesn't work

There are some that market their self as autistic that aren't irritating. In Canada and the US most providers on the spectrum don't market their self that way for safety reasons but allegedly in the Netherlands and some other places it's not that dangerous to reference being autistic in an ad. I'm not a Dutch provider but I have heard that from providers outside the US and Canada.

no, I already forgot her name but it's not sophie margiela. I think it's dangerous or at least a bad idea to reference something like this anywhere honestly. i've already revealed that i have adhd somewhere here on this forum, and i routinely get textapp messages making fun of me for it. that's just my opinion tho. also when as a provider in your ads or social media account you reference to being disabled or having certain political opinions or identities, you risk attracting people with bad intentions who are angry for various reasons.. in my opinion it's not the right place for it, and it can be unsafe. as an artist and in my personal life i express what i think and who i am openly tho

i guess in the netherlands prostitution is legalized, so it's less underground, maybe
 
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I think in North America women don't tend to hire male companions unfortunately. I know they exist, but there are very few male escorts who only cater to women.. I think there are cultural reasons associated with it but I'm not really sure what they are and how I could explain this.
Because a woman can walk into any place a bar for example and if she asks a man to have a sex I am willing to bet that almost no man will refuse sex. That is why. In this respect women especially young women in their 20s have it so easy. Hence why men paying for sex exists.
 

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Because a woman can walk into any place a bar for example and if she asks a man to have a sex I am willing to bet that almost no man will refuse sex. That is why. In this respect women especially young women in their 20s have it so easy. Hence why men paying for sex exists.
I have clients who could easily have sex, but they don't want to go to bars and seduce someone or use dating apps so they prefer paying. But you do have a point, men are less likely to refuse sex, because there is less of a danger for them to accept. I don't like random hook ups but even if I did, I would be afraid of going home with a stranger I met at a bar.

I think that also women are educated to be ashamed of their own sexual needs, so they would feel shy about hiring escorts maybe. There's an idea that women prefer romance and men prefer sex, but you'd be surprised by how many men need to build some sort of connection before doing it. I think men are taught that sex is the most valuable form of intimacy they can have, but a lot of men actually like to cuddle and hold hands. I think far more men pay for sex for other reasons than just being horny. Obviously they will not refuse to have sex.. but the problem is more like they are touch starved and lonely.

A lot of straight women exchange non sexual intimacy with their friends..
 
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I have clients who could easily have sex, but they don't want to go to bars and seduce someone or use dating apps so they prefer paying.
I am not sure about that. No one wants to be a customer. It is not a pleasant thing. Each man has their reasons to book an escort. Customers paying for sex comprise a small minority of society, it is not the norm.
But you do have a point, men are less likely to refuse sex, because there is less of a danger for them to accept. I don't like random hook ups but even if I did, I would be afraid of going home with a stranger I met at a bar. I think that also women are educated to be ashamed of their own sexual needs. There's an idea that women prefer romance and men prefer sex, but you'd be surprised by how many men need to build some sort of connection before doing it. I think men are taught that sex is the most valuable form of intimacy they can have, but a lot of men actually like to cuddle and hold hands.
It does not have to be even bars. It could be anywhere, a place you work at, at your school, etc.. Do you really think if some pretty girl in the same class asking a boy to have sex he would refuse? What the chances of that? Here is an analogy, the woman is the keyhole and the man is the key. You need the right key to unlock the hole. A man has to work very hard to convince a woman to have sex with him. The woman decides which is why if it went the other way not much man will say no. Sure they like to cuddle and hold hands, but when it comes down to it which man will refuse sex? That is why a man who is a virgin is shamed but a woman who is a virgin is praised.
 
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It does not have to be even bars. It could be anywhere, a place you work at, at your school, etc.. Do you really think if some pretty girl in the same class asking a boy to have sex he would refuse? What the chances of that? Here is an analogy, the woman is the keyhole and the man is the key. You need the right key to unlock the hole. A man has to work very hard to convince a woman to have sex with him. The woman decides which is why if it went the other way not much man will say no. Sure they like to cuddle and hold hands, but when it comes down to it which man will refuse sex? That is why a man who is a virgin is shamed but a woman who is a virgin is praised.
It doesn't seem like you read my comment properly.. What I initially said is that girls won't go up to men and ask them for sex as often, because it's dangerous for them to do so, or they risk being shamed for it. From a very young age women frequently get sexual comments in person and online, dick pics, cat calls, sometimes gross comments by family members etc. We get sexually harassed all the time, so we are guarded. Over time it can make certain women get turned off by the idea of sex, or we want to keep it for a relationship or with someone we care about. I've heard so many stories of teenage girls getting bullied and called sluts for having sex with their classmates, this doesn't happen to men.

My comment about guys enjoying to cuddle and hold hands has to do with why they pay for sex, because society teaches guys that sex is the ultimate forms of intimacy and they hire escorts when they need intimacy, are touch starved, lonely, need connection etc. The paragraph above is why women may feel less interested in paying for sex because it's offered to us and even shoved in our faces all the time. I think also a woman may feel even worse about herself if she wants to pay for intimacy because it could mean she's not even attractive enough to get it for free.
 
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It doesn't seem like you read my comment properly.. What I initially said is that girls won't go up to men and ask them for sex as often, because it's dangerous for them to do so, or they risk being shamed for it. From a very young age women frequently get sexual comments in person and online, dick pics, cat calls, sometimes gross comments by family members etc. We get sexually harassed all the time, so we are guarded. Over time it can make certain women get turned off by the idea of sex, or we want to keep it for a relationship or with someone we care about. I've heard so many stories of teenage girls getting bullied and called sluts for having sex with their classmates, this doesn't happen to men.
I did read it, but I am not sure you understand either. I am talking about in places with people that you know for example in school. I mean with the vision you have here it would be a miracle for men and women to meet. Not everyone has large social circles to get introduced to others. In the 90s meeting women at bars was a thing. I known couples who got married in meeting on airplanes.
My comment about guys enjoying to cuddle and hold hands has to do with why they pay for sex, because society teaches guys that sex is the ultimate forms of intimacy and they hire escorts when they need intimacy, are touch starved, lonely, need connection etc. The paragraph above is why women may feel less interested in paying for sex because it's offered to us and even shoved in our faces all the time. I think also a woman may feel even worse about herself if she wants to pay for intimacy because it could mean she's not even attractive enough to get it for free.
I agree with the latter part of your paragraph. But your last sentence also could mean the same thing for a man, that a man has no game to get a woman for sex so has to pay for it? It is just as bad. Part of a man's ego is to be able to pick up a woman, a man is cool to his buddies. It is the way things are. I maintain what I said, no one wants to be a customer but each man has their own personal reasons to pay for it.
 
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In college a mainlander friend (I know in Hong Kong Cantonese is big and mainland Mandarin and Hong Kong Cantonese have different slang as I study languages) told me "dog" means male sex worker in mainlander slang. He said he was very shocked when he found out that dog is used very differently in the English speaking world.
I speak Cantonese and mandarin as well but yes I like studying different languages too. And yes it is interesting how slang originates because language is really about culture and how you appropriate it as well above just pure linguistic.
Even in English or French we can see that or even between France French and Quebec French as well.
 
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"idolization of male westerners"

I've met multiple Asian women who trash talk about Asian men and boast about only dating White men. At least three. It's sad. I never hear Black women bragging about only dating a specific ethnicity but maybe they do. It's sad how media is like 90% of what shapes what people are into.
When I was living in China, I had classmates who were backpacking with no plans and reservations. They almost surf couch in Chinese families they bumped into during the day (or night ...). Thing was that because they are foreigners they were welcomed with wild open arms lol
Even me with some classmates (foreigner looking, as for me I am Asian/Chinese looking) when we were wandering in Beijing with our suitcases, we got approached by a lady our of nowhere who wanted to give us directions to our hotel (without asking her ...) and on top of that telling us her husband is like a scientist and she is lonely at home ... Lol
 

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I agree with the latter part of your paragraph. But your last sentence also could mean the same thing for a man, that a man has no game to get a woman for sex so has to pay for it? It is just as bad. Part of a man's ego is to be able to pick up a woman, a man is cool to his buddies. It is the way things are. I maintain what I said, no one wants to be a customer but each man has their own personal reasons to pay for it.
But for that I think how perception of a woman paying for services vs a man paying for services are differents.
A bit the same as you mentioned about the perception that a virgin man is shamed whereas a virgin woman is praised.
 
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no, I already forgot her name but it's not sophie margiela. I think it's dangerous or at least a bad idea to reference something like this anywhere honestly. i've already revealed that i have adhd somewhere here on this forum, and i routinely get textapp messages making fun of me for it. that's just my opinion tho. also when as a provider in your ads or social media account you reference to being disabled or having certain political opinions or identities, you risk attracting people with bad intentions who are angry for various reasons.. in my opinion it's not the right place for it, and it can be unsafe. as an artist and in my personal life i express what i think and who i am openly tho

i guess in the netherlands prostitution is legalized, so it's less underground, maybe

I guess I don't advertise with What diagnosis I have, but express how I tend to be, and how I think. I will only say as far as neurodivergent. Those who think similarly understand and gravitate it seems, to people who exhibit similar thinking patterns that match theirs. I don't hide who I am, I am pretty open about it. I couldn't hide it if I tried, but I also don't use it as a badge to make it ok to be inappropriate. (Assuming that is what this provider does. I don't know who is being spoken about, just know it isn't me, eugenics yeesh.)

I'm not sure how it is dangerous for someone to know, I think I am who I am and it helps if they know what to expect. My triggers and reactions are my own responsibility, not an excuse to just do whatever. Whatever it is, it seems to add to my charm. It is whatever the vibe is that seems to emanate, and thankfully it receives good reactions.