Secret diary of a boy who calls girl

Flyingby said:

Why go straight to jealousy. It has been said. Even by myself: your money to spend how you want
In your first post you said to ask questions and you would happily answer.

Your thread is unclear if it is a wish or a reality. This was your third post


The no sex is not an assumption. You reviewed your time together as a date. No mention of sex. Thank you for clearing that up

There has not been a single mention of shilling anywhere. Now THAT is your imagination.
Only Luna could have known this was about Luna

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I posted pictures of the date on my Twitter before this was posted here so yes people could have known this is about me... Right away when this was posted I saw that one of my haters (who again doesn't know me and has never talked to me before..) was checking out my profile here.

Also he's written a review about me before. (And to my knowledge other providers) I don't think this thread is meant to be reviews from what I understand these are date ideas, and yes I agree they're not affordable to everyone.. I get this thread is making you angry and maybe it's annoying for clients to see this but I don't get the point of these incessant arguments

Regardless of whoever this was about you still implied the SP is a psycho and advised him to "run", etc. also that I'm being paid for nothing. I have a fixed rate for longer bookings, whether the date begins at the park with beers and sandwiches or at a fancy restaurant it doesn't matter. Rebaynia explained it pretty clearly. I've had someone book me for a purely social date at a park before, he paid my social rate and got me nothing, I brought my own drink. He paid for my company and he needed someone to talk to, someone who knew the industry specifically.

Various scenarios happen, let's all move on to the next thing

Lunaseraphim said:

Regardless of whoever this was about you still implied the SP is a psycho and advised him to "run", etc. also that I'm being paid for nothing.

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Luna. You misread me. And I apologize for not being clearer
I meant a regular date
Not an SP date

Yes. They are two very very different things

Also. You are not being paid for nothing. We pay for your time and companionship and anything else that happens is between 2 consenting adults.

But. It is much less work to be paid to go out. Eat. Talk. Then it is to suck a dick and fuck someone.
Both a social date and a fuck date can be pleasant with the right person.
But the social date is probably easier than a fuckfest with someone who you do not like. I can only assume.

Which makes it EASIER money. Which is what I said

Flyingby said:

Luna. You misread me. And I apologize for not being clearer
I meant a regular date
Not an SP date

Yes. They are two very very different things

Also. You are not being paid for nothing. We pay for your time and companionship and anything else that happens is between 2 consenting adults.

But. It is much less work to be paid to go out. Eat. Talk. Then it is to suck a dick and fuck someone.
Both a social date and a fuck date can be pleasant with the right person.
But the social date is probably easier than a fuckfest with someone who you do not like. I can only assume.

Which makes it EASIER money. Which is what I said

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Okay now I understand that you assumed he was talking about a civ date. And thank you for recognizing my work. But I just want to say that I also disagree that it's necessarily less work.. For a lot of SP, it's more difficult to spend a lot of time with someone than to have sex for an hour and then move on to something else.

Remember, you have to come up with conversations, you have to keep a smile on and be entertaining, you have to be diplomatic if the client says something you don't like or offensive etc. I am an escort I am not just casually hanging out with someone on a social date, I have to orient the conversation and avoid certain topics, I can't show if I'm not in a good mood, I have to carry myself a certain way and dress a certain way, I can't show every aspect of my personality and I have to stay faithful to my escort persona (yes I am myself as an escort, but I can't be 100% myself). Sometimes during social time we have to listen to someone who's not happy or who is incompatible with you and has 0 in common with you, maybe deal with socially inept behavior, and we have to stay bubbly and fun.

It's not just the sex part of being an escort that is work. Alright, here's an example : once I had a dinner date with someone who talked to me about his childhood trauma about his sister killing herself when she was 11, the whole time. How is this easier than if I had just had sucked his dick?? Also even during ''normal bookings'' most clients who book me aren't trying to fuck the whole time. There's usually a moment when we are talking. I also once had a client I didn't have to fuck and I didn't have to suck his dick. He wanted me to jerk him off for 2 hours and during the breaks he was talking about his teenage son who had recently overdosed and passed away in his basement. That was one of the hardest bookings I've ever had.

There are reasons why people book escorts that aren't just pure sex. This is the reality of it. A lot of SP have told me that they actually don't want to do long bookings, dinner dates and social time because it's too mentally and emotionally exhausting for them.. They prefer shorter incall bookings. I feel the same way about overnights and multiple day bookings, they are lucrative but they are too much for me to handle most of the time, even if little to no sex happens. @LeDodo is a cute and charming and funny client (I'm doing free screening for him lol) but not everyone who books longer dates is like that. That's all I had to say.

Up next LeDodo is going to show you what to do and how to do it when you whip out the ring (or a Mars Bar Oliver style) trying to lock her down and take her out of the market.

EastWind said:

Up next LeDodo is going to show you what to do and how to do it when you whip out the ring (or a Mars Bar Oliver style) trying to lock her down and take her out of the market.

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I doubt it! LOL Believe it or not, there are clients who book us for long fancy dates without ulterior motives like ''locking us down''... I don't think you should fear generous clients gatekeeping us. That's all I had to say on this topic.

Everybody has a right to spend their money anyway they want and what ever makes them happy.
Many people wouldn’t travel halfway round the world to see a World Cup soccer game or waterpolo game.

I certainly wouldn’t go climb Mount Everest or go anywhere where it is cold I have enough of that for 5-6 months here.
While I would never book a long extended date with an SP that I have only seen a couple of times I would have no problem taking my ATF on a vacation to Europe or a Mediterranean cruise.
All to say we are all different and spend on different things that we enjoy.

Lunaseraphim said:

But I just want to say that I also disagree that it's necessarily less work.. For a lot of SP, it's more difficult to spend a lot of time with someone than to have sex for an hour and then move on to something else.

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If I may ask. Because I am curious and this date must have been at least 6 hours
Which of the following is easier
There are 2 separate scenarios to answer to
A) 6 hour social date like this with someone you easily get along with
B). 6 hour non stop fuck fest with someone you feel extremely physically and mentally attracted to

And from the following
1). 1 hour of non stop sex with someone you have NO attraction to.
2) 1 hour social time with someone you have ABSOLUTELY no connection with

Flyingby said:

If I may ask. Because I am curious and this date must have been at least 6 hours
Which of the following is easier
There are 2 separate scenarios to answer to
A) 6 hour social date like this with someone you easily get along with
B). 6 hour non stop fuck fest with someone you feel extremely physically and mentally attracted to

And from the following
1). 1 hour of non stop sex with someone you have NO attraction to.
2) 1 hour social time with someone you have ABSOLUTELY no connection with

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The date involved 2 hours at the incall, it wasn't a purely social date.

I can't choose between the first 2 separate scenarios, both of them have their appeal.

The second question is also hard to answer.. I'd rather have 1 hour of sex with someone I'm not attracted to, which happens often in this business, as long as he's respectful, clean and not pushing my limits. rather than spend 1 hour with someone who has really bad vibes and terrible opinions while he condescends to me and says stupid shit to me.

Lunaseraphim said:

The date involved 2 hours at the incall, it wasn't a purely social date.

I can't choose between the first 2 separate scenarios, both of them have their appeal.

The second question is also hard to answer.. I'd rather have 1 hour of sex with someone I'm not attracted to, which happens often in this business, as long as he's respectful, clean and not pushing my limits. rather than spend 1 hour with someone who has really bad vibes and terrible opinions while he condescends to me and says stupid shit to me.

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Really??? 15 posts for a 2 hour social
Omg

Back to my question.
@Lunaseraphim I did not say a guy who was mean or abusive
Just like I did not say a guy who was rough or pushed sexual limits

The basis of second scenario is
Boring guy for social
Or non attractive guy for sex

Flyingby said:

Really??? 15 posts for a 2 hour social
Omg

Back to my question.
@Lunaseraphim I did not say a guy who was mean or abusive
Just like I did not say a guy who was rough or pushed sexual limits

The basis of second scenario is
Boring guy for social
Or non attractive guy for sex

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You're the one who has been keeping this conversation going this whole time, along with other people. There was one comment initially.

I still have no answer for you. My job is to have sex with people and spend time with them, whether I'm attracted to them or not, and whether or not I think they are boring. I don't really understand why you are taking out your frustrations on me and trying to rile me up. Maybe you should book me instead.

I really wish this thread was deleted honestly. I DM'd the mods to get it closed or deleted by the way.

Lunaseraphim said:

You're the one who has been keeping this conversation going this whole time, along with other people. There was one comment initially.

I still have no answer for you. My job is to have sex with people and spend time with them, whether I'm attracted to them or not, and whether or not I think they are boring. I don't really understand why you are taking out your frustrations on me and trying to rile me up. Maybe you should book me instead.

I really wish this thread was deleted honestly. I DM'd the mods to get it closed or deleted by the way.

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Incomprehension: maybe
Exasperation: yes

Frustration: not at all

You said: quote: “it's more difficult to spend a lot of time with someone than to have sex for an hour and then move on to something else.”

Which is comparing the wrong thing
I am just trying to get your opinion in comparing McIntosh apples and spartan apples. Not granny smith apples

P. S. Honeycrisp are the best

Flyingby said:

Incomprehension: maybe
Exasperation: yes

Frustration: not at all

You said: quote: “it's more difficult to spend a lot of time with someone than to have sex for an hour and then move on to something else.”

Which is comparing the wrong thing
I am just trying to get your opinion in comparing McIntosh apples and spartan apples. Not granny smith apples

P. S. Honeycrisp are the best

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I said FOR SOME PROVIDERS it's harder to spend a lot of time with a client than to have sex for an hour. It's a lot of emotional and mental energy, and clearly you don't understand it. I've already explained it carefully. Let's just put it this way, an hour GFE can sometimes go by a lot faster than trying to entertain a conversation with someone who's ''boring''. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way you're wording things, it's like you think having sex with someone you're not attracted to is the worst task on earth, and precisely what we are being paid for. By this logic we shouldn't be paid if we're attracted to our clients and enjoying sex with them.

Why are you exasperated with me specifically and with this thread? Why can't you direct your energy elsewhere? I'm here to advertise my services, because this is my job, and I see your notifications and your questions. You're only here for entertainment and reading reviews. I feel like I've explained myself very clearly before.

More explanations : for a lot of people, particularly introverts, spending a lot of time having conversations, although stimulating and interesting, can be very draining mentally. Also conversations that are difficult can be exhausting. I've already mentioned all of this earlier in this conversation. I don't really know what you're trying to get me to say, what type of information you're trying to get from me, or what you're trying to expose me for. The truth is, sometimes this job is easier, sometimes it's more challenging. Sometimes it depends on your energy levels, physically or mentally or both.

Lunaseraphim said:

More explanations : for a lot of people, particularly introverts, spending a lot of time having conversations, although stimulating and interesting, can be very draining mentally. Also conversations that are difficult can be exhausting. I've already mentioned all of this earlier in this conversation. I don't really know what you're trying to get me to say, what type of information you're trying to get from me, or what you're trying to expose me for. The truth is, sometimes this job is easier, sometimes it's more challenging. Sometimes it depends on your energy levels, physically or mentally or both.

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For me it’s intriguing to have conversations in the beginning which is the norm thing to do plus give a bottle of wine! How hard is that?

Enjoying life said:

For me it’s intriguing to have conversations in the beginning which is the norm thing to do plus give a bottle of wine! How hard is that?

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Of course it's fun to have conversations with a nice glass of wine or two, I enjoy having conversations very much and I like my job as an escort. I even find certain moments that are difficult fascinating, because there is a lot to learn from them. I have learned a lot from this line of work, various skills that I can apply in my personal life. This includes social skills.

Something being enjoyable doesn't mean it doesn't take energy to do it.. My point isn't that it's all unpleasant, it's that it's all work, and we deserve to be compensated for all of it. No matter how much I like him, if a client asked me to go to the most expensive restaurant on earth and the fanciest spa, but didn't want to compensate me for my time, I would say no unless we had a specific arrangement. This isn't because I'm greedy or don't like my clients or my job, it's because my time is precious and my energy has it's limits. Like right now I'm wasting a lot of time defending myself and my line of work but I'm not really sure why...

This discussion is a waste of time from my point of view and if someone wants to have a conversation with me personally about something specific I'd rather do it in DM's. Next time someone replies to a comment I make, I will take it to DM's.

@Lunaseraphim
Not exasperated with you
Exasperated since I thought the 15 posts with pictures were one long ass date.

Not trying to bait you into answering anything. I am not even challenging your answer.
That being said. You changed the perimeters to my question. I simply brought them back

Your following answer was fine
And no. i don’t want freeby even though I am hot. I pay my way like everyone else

I really was simply wondering if social was easier or harder for a lady
One works your brain. The other works your body

Flyingby said:

@Lunaseraphim
Not exasperated with you
Exasperated since I thought the 15 posts with pictures were one long ass date.

Not trying to bait you into answering anything. I am not even challenging your answer.
That being said. You changed the perimeters to my question. I simply brought them back

Your following answer was fine
And no. i don’t want freeby even though I am hot. I pay my way like everyone else

I really was simply wondering if social was easier or harder for a lady
One works your brain. The other works your body

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Oh I see what you mean now LOL The way he explained it to me, these 15 posts in this thread are all different dates and only 2 of them were with me, on separate occasions. They are date ideas, I assume he did experience some of them with other providers.

I never thought you wanted a freeby, you don't really come across as that type. And you are correct about different aspects of the job requiring different skills.. That's what I've been trying to explain this whole time.