Well, technically, the moment you pay someone for sex it is a kind of ''class abuse'' where you use your economical power to use the body of someone that is systemically oppressed by the context of its state of class inferiority. The only way you can really be ok with this is because you would be alienated by your class consciousness as a member of the proletariat.
This hobby is riddle in hypocrisy lol. We have to admit it. How many man here would be okay for their Daughter if they had one to be an SP? Hmmmm
I need to be off to other things, but I feel like we’re talking in circles. Parting thoughts:
I disagree with that personally. I see what you mean, but in a lot of cases it isn't true. If I put up an ad and a respectful client who is nice to me books me, I don't think he is abusing his power.
I'm glad you feel that way and that you want people to suffer the consequences of their actions.. However hear me out. If a provider told you that a Merb member raped her, good to know that you will report him. What you don't seem to know is that if you did report him, if they do take it seriously and want to charge him not for assault but use that as an excuse to charge him for paying an escort, this provider will be retraumatized and put through a horrible process.
Well, would you do the same if you were a millionaire ? That's the question.
Would I do what if I were a millionaire? Would I be a sex worker? No. But I also wouldn't do a lot of other things. If I was a millionaire I would just focus on my art and on helping others, I wouldn't have any type of job. Most clients of sex workers aren't so rich that they aren't working for a boss or providing services for their own clients. I think that argument is not super relevant
In your example I would act in charity, justice and caution, as I previously mentioned. And I would encourage her to report it, using the same courage it took to promote the allegation on Merb. Just because an allegation is made doesn’t make it true, nor does it make it untrue.
What are you saying because I don't get it lol
Not a class abuse if you respect her terms of the service. The abuse occurs when you breach that "contract".
I would even go beyond that and say it’s a moral imperative to report abuse when you witness it or have credible knowledge it occurred.
I agree with you, but a lot of people don't agree on the definition of abuse, and a lot of people don't understand nuances when these situations are discussed. It's also very hard to prove it in front of a judge, and it's hard to prove to and by LE. Personally I wish people would just learn more about the dynamics of sexual and domestic violence and listen to survivors instead of focusing on the legal aspects of it. Very often the legal system is not supportive of abuse victims.. Instead, I think it's more important to focus on education and supporting victims ourselves.
I couldn't stop thinking also about the Epstein files.
I understand your point. But I beleive that taking the folks in the Epstein files is a bad exemple. We talking about folks in the 1% of wealth here. This is more of a case about wealth class and how these people can get away with anything.
It was an extreme example, I agree.. But that doesn't mean it doesn't reflect reality. Abuse is always about power dynamics. You are still missing my point. If a victim is not seen as credible and not respected as a person, LE won't care and most people won't believe them. If the abuser is well liked by the community, very often people won't believe the allegations. If it happens within a family, the child who does the accusation is often ostracized.
It's not just people who are as wealthy as Epstein. When I was in university I knew a girl who was groomed and abused by her teacher in high school over the course of a year.. Not a wealthy man but someone who was well liked in her town and who was popular with students. She came from a poor family and was seen as a troublemaker, it was known she had been sexually active early, etc. Another adult convinced her to report it to the police and they insulted her, made her feel stupid, etc. Then more testimonies came out over the years, and he ended up getting convicted.. WAY later.
Even if the "power" in the Epstein case are far greater, the atmosphere of fear are similar.
I think we all tend to believe victims and disbelieve abusers here which is one reason we were so appalled when the hockey accuser's stories were proven to be fabricated.
