Saw a lady in (pink) fur walking by. I don't want summer to be gone ...
It will be 35C today ...
It will be 35C today ...
It is only unfortunate for the guy who paid for something that was accepted and he did not receive..it seems like the situation above is about a substantial amount of money. It sounds like a complicated and unfortunate situation for both parties.
Maybe it’s time for a review? I’m surprised you got any money back.Exactly, I fully agree with this.
Let me add more to the story then. When we initially booked, I told her that my area is RURAL, meaning NO ONE comes here. Hence the DMTY. She said she still accepts and will treat it as a sort of vacation. But she ended up postponing because she said no one is booking her for the dates she posted. I had to laugh to myself because I had already warned her of this. She wanted to push the meeting back by a month to try and meet summer clients and I accepted (this is why I dont usually inconvenience myself to help people). Then she still didnt get anyone because, again, my area is quite RURAL(which I pointed out from day 1!). So she fully cancelled and said she would send the money in two parts, 1 week apart. I was like ?????? But I said ok. Then her situation happened a few days later and here we are. And the half I got back, I have had to be on her neck to have gotten it back. And on her neck meaning I texted her once a week. I wasnt even texting her everyday. She has not honored the repayment agreement none at all.
I agree it's always "complicated" when the client is to get their money but not when the SP is to be paid. When I receive money from clients for a business I used to have, I would not touch that money until the client received their product. That is simple principle. Then having the audacity to question my intentions of wanting to meet in the 1st place, saying I am or commenting that I must need the money.
Still awaiting an SP to say she uses I.O.U.s, especially for new clients.
Philippines,Thailand,Brazil maybe prices are driven up by americans and others who have deep pockets....Pre covid I dont remember prices in Euros one thing is for sure I'm paid in canadian dollars I wont start paying à massage in Euros or bitcoins !!!!!!Is it just me or there seems to be a lot of complaining around in various threads? Might be the holiday season...
I figured it'd be nice to have an "all in" thread where people can just bitch about stuff while, hopefully, remain somewhat respectful.
I can start with a few points, some of which have been brought up elsewhere, by me and others:
1- GFE is not GFE anymore: I stated before that, now, you have to double check about the DFK and DATY parts before booking with an agency, but if the trend continues, you'll have to double check the BBBJ (or just plain BJ) part as well in 2024.2- Physical ratings are inflated: I, personally, will refrain from rating SPs I see on their physical attributes. First of all, because "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but mostly because most people seem to have lost their minds (or balls) when giving high grades. The only example I'll give is this:- 10 means perfect, 10 means dream girl. 10 means unattainable. Maybe 5 SPs in Montreal are truly 10s.- 5 means average, and there's quite a few floating around.- In between, you'll find the GND types (6 & 7) and the hot / really hot ones (8 & 9)By giving 10s left and right, you lose credibility by creating false expectations, hence disappointment.3- The industrialization and dehumanization of sex work: The Incall business model implemented by XO and Euphoria is a financial success for them. Their girls get fully booked really fast. BUT... 90% of the sessions are 1h sessions with really short breaks in between. What do you think is going on? There's 0 intimacy, 0 romanticism and, in the end, pretty much 0 human connection. 18-22 yo spinners get pounded up to 5-6 times a day, day in day out, by a line up of guys eagerly waiting for their turn outside. I'm sorry but there's nothing appealing about this... quite the opposite when you really think about it.4- Indy rates: I get it... you got expenses and you're worth it. What's funny though is that at this price (and, dare I say, age) range, your targeted audience is a lot smaller. And from what I see, there seems to be more and more competition in the Indy market. I'm pretty sure some (most?) of you find that times are somewhat difficult. 450+$ per hour? Add another 50$ for Outcall with a minimum booking of 1.5h? Really?I could go on and on. I could talk about Screening, LeoList, false stats on agency websites, etc.
Agencies, Indies, Clients... everyone bears part of the blame. But that's the hobby we live in at the dawn of 2024.
Fortunately for me, I found my sweet spot. I should be fine.
There you go... I started it
It's the most respectful way to do it. I'm a SP with chronic illnesses and sadly, I have to cancel a couple of times. But, I ALWAYS put the deposits in a specific bank account before the appointment so it stays there if I have to cancel and give it back. Like you said, simple principle. My policy is that if I'm the one being canceled on, I keep the money and if I'm the one who is canceling, they have it back as soon as they see the canceling message.When I receive money from clients for a business I used to have, I would not touch that money until the client received their product. That is simple principle.
Agreed. Not sure what the point of vagueposting about a provider that screwed you over without naming them? Put it in their review thread. If it's a one-off, and everyone else has had flawless experiences them, then it probably won't affect her much and it might spurn action on her part to pay you back. If it's an on-going thing, and others have faced a similar situation with this provider, then you'll be saving other people from the same fate.Maybe it’s time for a review? I’m surprised you got any money back.
a well established SP
He posted about it back in June…we’re in August, I think it would be fair for him to post a review about it lol.Agreed. Not sure what the point of vagueposting about a provider that screwed you over without naming them? Put it in their review thread. If it's a one-off, and everyone else has had flawless experiences them, then it probably won't affect her much and it might spurn action on her part to pay you back. If it's an on-going thing, and others have faced a similar situation with this provider, then you'll be saving other people from the same fate.
Reviews come in all shapes and sizes, even for
Same. Lately I was asked to give more juicy details. And almost ended being the one not sharing information lolI get a fair number of people writing to me and asking me questions about this, that and the other thing. I'm pretty laid back generally and will usually answer questions even if the asker is a lurker or has no or little posting history or whatever. I may not give as complete an answer as I might do in some back channel conversation but I will try to provide either useful information or guidance of some kind if I can, no matter who's asking. I usually feel that it's the job of people on this board to help and support others, as it is on other board, so anything reasonable, etc.,etc. etc. Having said that, if you're a 15 year member of this board, that I've never interacted with before, with just a handful of posts, and you write to me "I want you to tell me A,B and C. thanks" as the entirety of your message, without any kind of introduction, social niceties or anything that could be construed by anyone as being either courteous or respectful of a stranger from whom you wish to obtain help and information, then you can absolutely fuck right off.
Well such transparency is fine as it manages expectations and will avoid potential frustration!It's the most respectful way to do it. I'm a SP with chronic illnesses and sadly, I have to cancel a couple of times. But, I ALWAYS put the deposits in a specific bank account before the appointment so it stays there if I have to cancel and give it back. Like you said, simple principle. My policy is that if I'm the one being canceled on, I keep the money and if I'm the one who is canceling, they have it back as soon as they see the canceling message.
I'm someone who is really transparent so I take the time to explain what's happening and how my situation impacts me. Thankfully, everyone has been understanding and comprehensive yet. They get their money back instantly and they appreciate my transparency so they tend to book again, which I deeply appreciate.
You digged an old post lolPhilippines,Thailand,Brazil maybe prices are driven up by americans and others who have deep pockets....Pre covid I dont remember prices in Euros one thing is for sure I'm paid in canadian dollars I wont start paying à massage in Euros or bitcoins !!!!!!
It's cool that you're trying to be graceful, but you're talking about it here and I'm sure a bunch of guys messaged you to ask who it is and gossip.. but I do understand that you needed advice on this situation or just to ventThe reason why I havent posted on her thread is because I am still trying to be lenient/graceful in this situation, despite me probably being a massive idiot for that. It's always been an personal issue for me where I give people more grace than they clearly deserve.
Hey! I was "regular" bitching just 2 hours ago! You're not the boss of me! Mind your P's and Q's mister!Can we get back to the plain old bitching here!
No, he wasn't really asking for juicy details. It was phrased pretty much just as I framed it above: "give me information. thanks" , as if it was a demand that he was entitled to, rather than a polite request. No preamble, not even a "hello", just "gimme".Same. Lately I was asked to give more juicy details. And almost ended being the one not sharing information lol
I feel like some people just want you to show and tell and jerk off your story telling.
And there it is. It all works perfectly, most of the time, until it doesn't. You do the best you can with the information you have, but the system will break down again at some point. There's no real need to rationalize it, just as long as you recognize that that's what it will be like in the future too, and plan accordingly with whatever (if any) mitigating actions you take.I do extensive research and only choose from those I see with strong online presence, a reputation and I have a high chance of seeing as well. This is not infallible of course, as can be clearly seen here,
As we say in finance: past performance is no guarantee of future results.And there it is. It all works perfectly, most of the time, until it doesn't. You do the best you can with the information you have, but the system will break down again at some point. There's no real need to rationalize it, just as long as you recognize that that's what it will be like in the future too, and plan accordingly with whatever (if any) mitigating actions you take.





