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Unpopular opinion. I don't think Orange Julep is that great lol

J'ai été en contact avec d'autres personnes qui ont travaillé chez XO depuis avant hier et elles témoignent de trucs similaires, mais ne veulent pas s'en mêler. Je suis d'accord pour dire que chaque agence n'est pas la même. Mais je pense aussi que c'est important de se rappeler que, même si...

What is the problem, in your own words?

The quality of fast food restaurant chains has gone downhill in the past 20 years.. If I want a poutine or hamburger I head to a trusted local diner. (I still wish we had a Taco Bell again in Montreal)

It's honestly very depressing, but nothing that surprises me. I participate in discussions like these on this forum once in a while because I feel like it's important for clients to know the truth and have a nuanced perspective. Maybe that makes me annoying. It is incredibly disheartening and...

You feel like you're using women as a john? What makes you feel that way? I don't feel used by my clients. I have been assaulted and coerced and manipulated by clients in the past. But now most of what happens is consensual, most appointments are full of joy or at least an atmosphere of...

The fact that the media wants to portray SWrs as passive victims and clients as predators doesn't make this story false. Also two things can be true. Someone can choose to be a sex worker, and still get abused or exploited sometimes or often. Someone can have good clients, but maybe had a lot...

Tu trouve ça désolant de savoir la vérité? Moi je trouve que les clients ici qui continuent à défendre l'agence et traiter les filles de menteuses n'aident pas leur cause. Vous dites qu'en disant la vérité et en parlant d'abus on donne raison aux radfem abolitionnistes.. en fait c'est en ayant...

I agree with you, but that doesn't mean everything is a lie. To me it's perfectly realistic that she joined seeking arrangements without knowing she would have to have sex with men, because a lot of girls I know made that mistake. Some ended up in the sex industry later, some just put that idea...

I agree.. but that doesn't mean she didn't experience this type of thing. A lot of girls I know who worked for agencies told me similar things.. at first they got the worst clients particularly when they were young.. and some agency and spa owners never ban clients unless something really bad...

It does seem like there's an agenda behind the interview but I don't think she should be called a liar. It's despicable that people are insinuating this. She was a victim. I don't think it's good to portray all clients as bad either but calling girls who experience abuse liars doesn't exactly...

This is getting really exhausting lol. Whatever. Believe whatever you want to believe, guys.

I'm sensitive to your experience but curious what you mean... All of this is pretty vague and doesn't seem super relevant to this subject

Good point.

Je pense qu'il est préférable de ne pas tomber dans les clichés du style "l'appât du gain et l'argent facile". Toutes les travailleuses du sexe ont leur raisons personnelles et ce n'est à personne de juger. C'est loin d'être de l'argent facile aussi. Mais pour les exploiteurs c'est sûr que c'est...

Maybe that's how she experienced it, even if the clients felt like they were being nice to her. I also don't believe that it's possible to have only bad clients, and I don't think everyone who booked with XO is an abuser.. but I don't think this means we shouldn't believe her. It sounds like...

Je suis d'accord avec toi. Tant mieux. Et, oui, ta dernière phrase me semble très pertinente, et présente tout un éventail de nuances.

I want to add something very important.. Yes, for many of us this is a job that allows us to have better financial conditions or that allows us to survive. Maybe it's not our first choice, maybe some of us don't like the job, maybe some of us are not huge fans of several aspects of the work but...

It sure is. But that also means you can't know for sure if someone is happy at their work place just because ''they seem to be''. Also there is a difference between someone who isn't comfortable with their work and choosing to do it anyways on their own terms, and somebody who is being...

It's also that Clémentine is a ''perfect victim'' in this case. She isn't actively working as an escort and she did not join fully aware of what was going to happen. A lot of women experienced abuse in this industry, but they are still working, either as indies or for MP or agencies. These women...