Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

[masterfreak]

Bon j'ai beaucoup d'empathie pour Clémentine qui a repris sa vie en main pour se sortir de la prostitution
Son témoignage est important pour que d'autres ne fassent pas les mêmes choix
Le problème c'est l'appât du gain de l'argent facile qui est un cancer dans notre société qui met trop l'accent sur le monde de l'apparence le consumérisme
Notre industrie cher ami e fait partie du problème
Y a énormément de souffrance psychologique cacher autant du côté de la travailleuses du sexe que du client
Bonne introspection

 

[LC18]

I think maybe she didn’t know how to be assertive and voice her discomfort. To many men, if they don’t hear a clear “no” they’ll keep doing. For some, even if they hear “no” they’ll keep going but that’s another subject

This is not saying that it’s her fault, au contraire, it just made it easier for some men to abuse her and they thought she was ok with what was going on

So yes, it’s possible that all of her experiences were bad but it doesn’t mean all the clients were trash

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Bon j'ai beaucoup d'empathie pour Clémentine qui a repris sa vie en main pour se sortir de la prostitution
Son témoignage est important pour que d'autres ne fassent pas les mêmes choix
Le problème c'est l'appât du gain de l'argent facile qui est un cancer dans notre société qui met trop l'accent sur le monde de l'apparence le consumérisme
Notre industrie cher ami e fait partie du problème
Y a énormément de souffrance psychologique cacher autant du côté de la travailleuses du sexe que du client
Bonne introspection

Je pense qu'il est préférable de ne pas tomber dans les clichés du style "l'appât du gain et l'argent facile". Toutes les travailleuses du sexe ont leur raisons personnelles et ce n'est à personne de juger. C'est loin d'être de l'argent facile aussi. Mais pour les exploiteurs c'est sûr que c'est facile.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I think maybe she didn’t know how to be assertive and voice her discomfort. To many men, if they don’t hear a clear “no” they’ll keep doing. For some, even if they hear “no” they’ll keep going but that’s another subject

This is not saying that it’s her fault, au contraire, it just made it easier for some men to abuse her and they thought she was ok with what was going on

So yes, it’s possible that all of her experiences were bad but it doesn’t mean all the clients were trash

Good point.

 

[Halloween Mike]

My understanding is that Sam toward the end was more the "owner in the background" like renting the units and other stuff like that and mostly just cashing the money and not actually working anymore (booking etc). Its what i have been told by some SPs and since i didn't interact with Sam during the later years, i do believe it was true. Im sure you guys noticed one of the lady has the same last name as Sam. Sister, cousin or wife? But they definately related. I spoke to Sam and altough he is Asian, he spoke like any white dude. You couldn't know he is Asian if you only spoke on the phone with him. So that lady in question ... was she still working as of recently? Its likely (if they are siblings) that she has the same "accent-free" voice as him.

I listened to the podcast and the latest interview of Clementine and i know that some of the stuff she mention did happened because i been told by the guys themselves. The only difference between her testimony and theirs is that on their side it was consensual and they had a safe word. I even inquired to some SPs i saw and had some confirmations that this stuff did happen but the versions were different depending on the person. I think the truth is likely in between. My feeling is that Clementine "agreed" to do some things because of various reasons (fear of the agency, the clients, treats etc) but she really didn't wanted to do them. Now some clients are really depicted as evil and again, i know from the mouth of an SP that some clients will out them to their familly either if they refuse to do some things or refuse to see them. I know it happened. I know there is some evil guys out there. Heck who (beside a psychopath) would ask an SP to send him a video of her killing her dog... For F SAKE !! Were they all that evil tough? I think this poor lady was traumatized heavily from many different situations and at some point a client asking for a kink may have been enough to trigger the traumas and put him in the same basket.

All my "kinks" are non-violent personally. But i have a few who would definately trigger a "weirdo !!!" comment if i told them to any "civilians" wich is not into that. Im not gonna lie, there is some things i only done because the SP brough it up herself first and since she said she was comfortable doing it, then i felt at ease to ask her about it. But even 17 years later i am still shy with SPs, i am still uncomfortable to ask about certain things. Heck by now its not a secret that i love doing COF, but do you know how many years it took me to be comfortable asking about it because i feared i would look like a weirdo? And heck im not even 100% to this day, and it depend on the provider (i try to read the room and i try to book with the ones who have a pre-disposition for it either by listing it or reading about it in reviews).

I mentioned in my previous post i had a bad experience not that long ago that has "shaken me up". It added to the one i had late last year that i talked about and while they were not "back to back" per say (and they were different in context), it was in a short ammount of time and has left me with some "emotional scars" related to the business to a point i still think regularely about it and have decided (way before this story came out) to avoid agency bookings for a while and only seeing SPs i know for the near futur. But now that this story has pop out i view it in a different angle and the key factor is probably "what about the other clients she saw before me and how did they behave" and i can maybe understand a bit more on the situation.

For transparency i never met Jade at Xo. I don't know her at all. And my experience is limited to what i experienced myself. Did i saw SPs with bruises on their body or face? No. Did i was told anything that could trigger an alarm in me? No. But i mostly saw "veterans" that been in the business for a while. I rarely if ever booked "new SPs" because i felt it was too "risky". I prefer seeing someone thats been around and have had great reviews. Considering i book rarely and all the logistic involved, it was a better "bet". Up until December 2025 my "resume" was very good. Not gonna said i didn't had a few "meh meetings" but never anything overly majorly bad. So maybe both the agency and some clients wanted to "pray" on young new comers who didn't knew better.

All these years i tried to be the best client i could and yet i know for a fact i ended up on the blacklist on some SPs due to my posts here. Was i sometimes in the wrong and not realizing it at the time? Definately. Is there some opinions i still persist and sign to this day that is in disparity with some SPs? Definately. Heck i may even change my mind on more things in the futur. This post is a great exemple of making me question the business more than ever before. Only the fools don't change their mind. I always been an open person and i do try to look at the good in peoples rather than the bad. But i also learn in my life (not just in this business) that no matter what, there is bad peoples in the world and you also need to build a shell around you, otherwise you will be squashed and taken advantage of.

 

[PatHibulaire]

To the average viewer Clementine is highly attractive and convincing.

However to anyone who is familiar with the hobby it is clear she is lying at least twice.

1. She says that when she joined Seeking Arrangement (at 19) she did not realize that clients would be expecting sex.

2. More important she says that when she joined XO (which an SA client referred her to) that Sam told her she would not have to have sex with clients.

Sam was many things.
But he was not a time waster.
He would never have told a girl that.

*****

Clementine comes from a good family and social network.
She thus has a real need to justify her past actions.
Blaming it all on others is one way to do that.

She lied twice; but more important, much of the rest of what she says is not fully credible either.
(That XO "forced" her to see clients. She could have walked out at anytime. Never once saw anyone watching these girls).

Ses agresseurs arrêtés | Agence d’escorte démantelée à Montréal: une des victimes témoigne

Écoutez le témoignage de Clémentine, 26 ans, victime d exploitation sexuelle, mercredi à Radio textos avec Marie Eve Tremblay.

www.985fm.ca

To the average viewer Clementine is highly attractive and convincing.

However to anyone who is familiar with the hobby it is clear she is lying at least twice.

1. She says that when she joined Seeking Arrangement (at 19) she did not realize that clients would be expecting sex.

2. More important she says that when she joined XO (which an SA client referred her to) that Sam told her she would not have to have sex with clients.

Sam was many things.
But he was not a time waster.
He would never have told a girl that.

*****

Clementine comes from a good family and social network.
She thus has a real need to justify her past actions.
Blaming it all on others is one way to do that.

She lied twice; but more important, much of the rest of what she says is not fully credible either.
(That XO "forced" her to see clients. She could have walked out at anytime. Never once saw anyone watching these girls).

Ses agresseurs arrêtés | Agence d’escorte démantelée à Montréal: une des victimes témoigne

Écoutez le témoignage de Clémentine, 26 ans, victime d exploitation sexuelle, mercredi à Radio textos avec Marie Eve Tremblay.

www.985fm.ca

I'm not the smartest but I know 2 things. First it's not because something seems incredible that it is not true.
Also young girls, especially if they were raised in a loving family, are incredibly naive.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

My understanding is that Sam toward the end was more the "owner in the background" like renting the units and other stuff like that and mostly just cashing the money and not actually working anymore (booking etc). Its what i have been told by some SPs and since i didn't interact with Sam during the later years, i do believe it was true. Im sure you guys noticed one of the lady has the same last name as Sam. Sister, cousin or wife? But they definately related. I spoke to Sam and altough he is Asian, he spoke like any white dude. You couldn't know he is Asian if you only spoke on the phone with him. So that lady in question ... was she still working as of recently? Its likely (if they are siblings) that she has the same "accent-free" voice as him.

I listened to the podcast and the latest interview of Clementine and i know that some of the stuff she mention did happened because i been told by the guys themselves. The only difference between her testimony and theirs is that on their side it was consensual and they had a safe word. I even inquired to some SPs i saw and had some confirmations that this stuff did happen but the versions were different depending on the person. I think the truth is likely in between. My feeling is that Clementine "agreed" to do some things because of various reasons (fear of the agency, the clients, treats etc) but she really didn't wanted to do them. Now some clients are really depicted as evil and again, i know from the mouth of an SP that some clients will out them to their familly either if they refuse to do some things or refuse to see them. I know it happened. I know there is some evil guys out there. Heck who (beside a psychopath) would ask an SP to send him a video of her killing her dog... For F SAKE !! Were they all that evil tough? I think this poor lady was traumatized heavily from many different situations and at some point a client asking for a kink may have been enough to trigger the traumas and put him in the same basket.

All my "kinks" are non-violent personally. But i have a few who would definately trigger a "weirdo !!!" comment if i told them to any "civilians" wich is not into that. Im not gonna lie, there is some things i only done because the SP brough it up herself first and since she said she was comfortable doing it, then i felt at ease to ask her about it. But even 17 years later i am still shy with SPs, i am still uncomfortable to ask about certain things. Heck by now its not a secret that i love doing COF, but do you know how many years it took me to be comfortable asking about it because i feared i would look like a weirdo? And heck im not even 100% to this day, and it depend on the provider (i try to read the room and i try to book with the ones who have a pre-disposition for it either by listing it or reading about it in reviews).

I mentioned in my previous post i had a bad experience not that long ago that has "shaken me up". It added to the one i had late last year that i talked about and while they were not "back to back" per say (and they were different in context), it was in a short ammount of time and has left me with some "emotional scars" related to the business to a point i still think regularely about it and have decided (way before this story came out) to avoid agency bookings for a while and only seeing SPs i know for the near futur. But now that this story has pop out i view it in a different angle and the key factor is probably "what about the other clients she saw before me and how did they behave" and i can maybe understand a bit more on the situation.

For transparency i never met Jade at Xo. I don't know her at all. And my experience is limited to what i experienced myself. Did i saw SPs with bruises on their body or face? No. Did i was told anything that could trigger an alarm in me? No. But i mostly saw "veterans" that been in the business for a while. I rarely if ever booked "new SPs" because i felt it was too "risky". I prefer seeing someone thats been around and have had great reviews. Considering i book rarely and all the logistic involved, it was a better "bet". Up until December 2025 my "resume" was very good. Not gonna said i didn't had a few "meh meetings" but never anything overly majorly bad. So maybe both the agency and some clients wanted to "pray" on young new comers who didn't knew better.

All these years i tried to be the best client i could and yet i know for a fact i ended up on the blacklist on some SPs due to my posts here. Was i sometimes in the wrong and not realizing it at the time? Definately. Is there some opinions i still persist and sign to this day that is in disparity with some SPs? Definately. Heck i may even change my mind on more things in the futur. This post is a great exemple of making me question the business more than ever before. Only the fools don't change their mind. I always been an open person and i do try to look at the good in peoples rather than the bad. But i also learn in my life (not just in this business) that no matter what, there is bad peoples in the world and you also need to build a shell around you, otherwise you will be squashed and taken advantage of.

I'm sensitive to your experience but curious what you mean... All of this is pretty vague and doesn't seem super relevant to this subject

 

[Lunaseraphim]

This is getting really exhausting lol. Whatever. Believe whatever you want to believe, guys.

 

[josie1987]

My understanding is that Sam toward the end was more the "owner in the background" like renting the units and other stuff like that and mostly just cashing the money and not actually working anymore (booking etc). Its what i have been told by some SPs and since i didn't interact with Sam during the later years, i do believe it was true. Im sure you guys noticed one of the lady has the same last name as Sam. Sister, cousin or wife? But they definately related. I spoke to Sam and altough he is Asian, he spoke like any white dude. You couldn't know he is Asian if you only spoke on the phone with him. So that lady in question ... was she still working as of recently? Its likely (if they are siblings) that she has the same "accent-free" voice as him.

I listened to the podcast and the latest interview of Clementine and i know that some of the stuff she mention did happened because i been told by the guys themselves. The only difference between her testimony and theirs is that on their side it was consensual and they had a safe word. I even inquired to some SPs i saw and had some confirmations that this stuff did happen but the versions were different depending on the person. I think the truth is likely in between. My feeling is that Clementine "agreed" to do some things because of various reasons (fear of the agency, the clients, treats etc) but she really didn't wanted to do them. Now some clients are really depicted as evil and again, i know from the mouth of an SP that some clients will out them to their familly either if they refuse to do some things or refuse to see them. I know it happened. I know there is some evil guys out there. Heck who (beside a psychopath) would ask an SP to send him a video of her killing her dog... For F SAKE !! Were they all that evil tough? I think this poor lady was traumatized heavily from many different situations and at some point a client asking for a kink may have been enough to trigger the traumas and put him in the same basket.

All my "kinks" are non-violent personally. But i have a few who would definately trigger a "weirdo !!!" comment if i told them to any "civilians" wich is not into that. Im not gonna lie, there is some things i only done because the SP brough it up herself first and since she said she was comfortable doing it, then i felt at ease to ask her about it. But even 17 years later i am still shy with SPs, i am still uncomfortable to ask about certain things. Heck by now its not a secret that i love doing COF, but do you know how many years it took me to be comfortable asking about it because i feared i would look like a weirdo? And heck im not even 100% to this day, and it depend on the provider (i try to read the room and i try to book with the ones who have a pre-disposition for it either by listing it or reading about it in reviews).

I mentioned in my previous post i had a bad experience not that long ago that has "shaken me up". It added to the one i had late last year that i talked about and while they were not "back to back" per say (and they were different in context), it was in a short ammount of time and has left me with some "emotional scars" related to the business to a point i still think regularely about it and have decided (way before this story came out) to avoid agency bookings for a while and only seeing SPs i know for the near futur. But now that this story has pop out i view it in a different angle and the key factor is probably "what about the other clients she saw before me and how did they behave" and i can maybe understand a bit more on the situation.

For transparency i never met Jade at Xo. I don't know her at all. And my experience is limited to what i experienced myself. Did i saw SPs with bruises on their body or face? No. Did i was told anything that could trigger an alarm in me? No. But i mostly saw "veterans" that been in the business for a while. I rarely if ever booked "new SPs" because i felt it was too "risky". I prefer seeing someone thats been around and have had great reviews. Considering i book rarely and all the logistic involved, it was a better "bet". Up until December 2025 my "resume" was very good. Not gonna said i didn't had a few "meh meetings" but never anything overly majorly bad. So maybe both the agency and some clients wanted to "pray" on young new comers who didn't knew better.

All these years i tried to be the best client i could and yet i know for a fact i ended up on the blacklist on some SPs due to my posts here. Was i sometimes in the wrong and not realizing it at the time? Definately. Is there some opinions i still persist and sign to this day that is in disparity with some SPs? Definately. Heck i may even change my mind on more things in the futur. This post is a great exemple of making me question the business more than ever before. Only the fools don't change their mind. I always been an open person and i do try to look at the good in peoples rather than the bad. But i also learn in my life (not just in this business) that no matter what, there is bad peoples in the world and you also need to build a shell around you, otherwise you will be squashed and taken advantage of.

Clementine’s allegations have not withstood the test of a trial. Her statements are not evidence. As the issue of the trial of the 5 hockey players has shown, allegations can’t be taken at face value.

 

[LeDodo]

But it stood out to me, because it seemed to imply that most (or all) people who booked with XO were abusers or bad people who didn't care about how the women felt. I doubt any SP here would say that everyone they have encountered has been bad.

Well at first it sounds like unbelievable that all clients are bad.

But considering the non-existent screening and with the sharing by Alicemay and Julia, you can guess that it's not that impossible at all ...

Mes expériences en agences et en salon ont toutes été négatives. Trop de clients dans la même journée de la pression coercitive pour accepter des clients que je ne voulais pas voir (personne dans l’agence voulait les voir).

Une nouvelle en agence n'a pas ce loisir et ce n'est pas rare qu'elles soient choisies pour être celle qui doit servir tous les clients que les autres ne veulent plus voir. J'ai entendu cette histoire se répéter à maintes reprises. Une amie à moi a débuté en agence. Dès le premier client on lui a dit "c'est un régulier de l'agence, assure-toi te le satisfaire". Monsieur le régulier de l'agence a aggressé mon amie sans concom. Ce n'est ni la première ni la dernière à qui ça arrive. La plupart du temps quand une agence "blacklist" un client ce qu'ils veulent dire c'est qu'ils le mettent sur la liste de clients à envoyer aux nouvelles et à celles qui ont fait chier le boss cette semaine.

Clémentine had the perfect profile: young and naive, but most importantly new in the roster.

One could imagine the dynamic here: you enter the agency, depending of several factors like your experience, age, character. You work with such clients for a period of time. Once you're "experienced" you could push back, if you're lucky there will be a new girl getting them. Then you have the illusion you're listened.

And then the scenario repeats itself.

 

[TheJames101]

Maybe that's how she experienced it, even if the clients felt like they were being nice to her. I also don't believe that it's possible to have only bad clients, and I don't think everyone who booked with XO is an abuser.. but I don't think this means we shouldn't believe her.

It sounds like she was being maybe hyperbolic.. She had so many bad experiences that she felt like ''all clients were bad''. That's honestly how I felt when I entered the industry. I attracted so many boundary pushers and violent clients as a beginner that I didn't feel I had one single nice client for a while.. Nowadays, most of my clients are very kind and respectful. But I can see how a new girl, naive, 19 years old, would attract a lot of predators and unpleasant clients..

Sounds about right. It's just a shame, because there's enough blame to go around... one of the few lights could have been the good clients! Alas, it also helps to perpetuate the pervasive thought that all men who see SP's are immoral.
I don't blame her either for how she felt, I just wish it hadn't been stated publicly and unequivocally like this.

 

[skarsga]

I think these articles and testimony are shaped to play to a particular audience that has zero tolerance for sex work and views all of us as different shades of evil - even the victims to an extent.

We cannot continue to defend the scummy elements of this industry like what happened at xo just because things "seemed" fine.
We know better now, but it seems we don't learn.

To quote bsg, "all of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again. "

 

[TheJames101]

Clementine’s allegations have not withstood the test of a trial. Her statements are not evidence. As the issue of the trial of the 5 hockey players has shown, allegations can’t be taken at face value.

What trial? Did her case go to trial? Not as far as I'm aware. But maybe it will now, in another form.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I spoke to Sam and altough he is Asian, he spoke like any white dude. squashed and taken advantage of.

Spoke the King's English and was well dressed too. HM, you may recall that long before XO began as an agency, he came to some of the parties. He indicated an eagerness to learn the business and start an agency. He seemed to me, at the time, earnest about that. I recall seeing him at 2-3 private parties before XO was ever started. Ditto with James of Euphoria who came to parties, learned as a client, bookered at GG, and then began Euphoria. He followed a similar path into the business. HM nobody knows all of this history quite as well as you since you were front and center for most of it.

I always assumed that the agency was named after XO sauce. A Hong Kong umami rich condiment well known to LeDodo and some others. I don't know if that's where he was from, but likely 2nd generation if so.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Sounds about right. It's just a shame, because there's enough blame to go around... one of the few lights could have been the good clients! Alas, it also helps to perpetuate the pervasive thought that all men who see SP's are immoral.
I don't blame her either for how she felt, I just wish it hadn't been stated publicly and unequivocally like this.

It does seem like there's an agenda behind the interview but I don't think she should be called a liar. It's despicable that people are insinuating this. She was a victim.

I don't think it's good to portray all clients as bad either but calling girls who experience abuse liars doesn't exactly make a client look good.

 

[TheJames101]

It does seem like there's an agenda behind the interview but I don't think she should be called a liar. It's despicable that people are insinuating this. She was a victim.

100%. There's a lot of trauma there, which is what led to her framing of it, I suspect.

 

[hob12]

Hors sujet mais maudit que Marie-Ève Tremblay est cute.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

100%. There's a lot of trauma there, which is what led to her framing of it, I suspect.

I agree.. but that doesn't mean she didn't experience this type of thing.

A lot of girls I know who worked for agencies told me similar things.. at first they got the worst clients particularly when they were young.. and some agency and spa owners never ban clients unless something really bad happens. That enables certain types of behavior in my opinion.

That doesn't mean all clients who visit MP and agencies are bad tho. I just think it's something to be conscious of. Generally in this industry whether you're indy or work for a spa or agency if you're new, if you're young and/or vulnerable, you will unfortunately attract a lot of bad clients. If you seem desperate or have bad reviews, the same happens. That's also why a lot of providers get bad experiences during slower months.

I'm not saying this to frame the entire industry as bad. I just think it would be good if certain clients reconsidered their opinions and how they proceed and if they were more lenient on workers. I'll repeat it again : decriminalization would also help solve these problems

Shitty clients also talk. If they notice a naive and passive and vulnerable girl who's easy to manipulate and push, they may recommend her to each other. It's happened to me

 

[TheJames101]

Hors sujet mais maudit que Marie-Ève Tremblay est cute.

Truly the definition of hors sujet in this case.

 

[CLOUD 500]

It does seem like there's an agenda behind the interview but I don't think she should be called a liar. It's despicable that people are insinuating this. She was a victim.

I don't think it's good to portray all clients as bad either but calling girls who experience abuse liars doesn't exactly make a client look good.

That is the problem with the media. There is so much bias. All SWs are portrayed as victims and all clients are predators. You know this is not true but to the layman who is not in it they will believe biased sensationalist stories.