Just heard that the Cards are getting John Lackey from the Sox. Not yet sure who's heading back to Boston.
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Cards get Lackey and Sox get 1B/OF Allen Craig and P Joe Kelly. Another very good deal for the Sox.
As for Lester to Oakland. I'm pretty surprised the A's gave up on Cespedes for a 2 month rental of Lester since I don't believe they will re-sign him after this season.
You can be the NYY will be sending Lester and offer come seasons end. Personally, I think it would serve that douchebag Larry Lucchino right if Lester did sign with NY. Lol.
The Red Sox have virtually clinched last place with these deals, and a historic two last places finishes sandwiched around a World Series win. Is that a sandwich that is tasty, or vile? I would say the bread portion of the sandwich has a little mold on it.
And now David Price is heading to Detroit in a 3-way trade between the Tigers, the Rays & the Mariners.
Power-hitting Stephen Drew has been traded to the Yankees from Boston. They sent them low-producing veteran Kelly Johnson & some cash. Red Sox send Stephen Drew to the Yankees. That's the 1st trade between the teams since Mike Stanley went to New York on Aug. 13, 1997. The Yankees also obtained Martin Prado from Arizona for power-hitting minor leaguer Peter O'Brien. Note that Drew has strictly played shortstop for the past 8 seasons & he's told a member of the media that the Yankees told him he's their new 2nd baseman.
Brian Cashman just announced to the media that Brian Roberts will be released. In another move, they picked up Jays minor leaguer Esmil Rogers, who had recently been DFA's by the Jays.
The Orioles, on the other hand, made one move today in obtaining lefty Andrew Miller from the Red Sox, thus confirming that the Red Sox nearly wiped out their entire pitching staff today minus their closer Uehara, who may be picked up on waivers sometimes in August.
In that David Price deal, Austin Jackson goes to Seattle, Nick Franklin & Drew Smyly head off to Tampa Bay. Smyly actually started today's game for Detroit. The Rays also get a prospect in shortstop Willy Adames from the Tigers.
p.s. Personally, i can't see Drew being much of an improvement over Roberts. Drew hasn't played second base in ages & he can't hit. I had question marks about Roberts earlier on, but he's impressed me over the past couple of months.
Brian Cashman just announced to the media that Brian Roberts will be released. In another move, they picked up Jays minor leaguer Esmil Rogers, who had recently been DFA's by the Jays.
The Orioles, on the other hand, made one move today in obtaining lefty Andrew Miller from the Red Sox, thus confirming that the Red Sox nearly wiped out their entire pitching staff today minus their closer Uehara, who may be picked up on waivers sometimes in August.
In that David Price deal, Austin Jackson goes to Seattle, Nick Franklin & Drew Smyly head off to Tampa Bay. Smyly actually started today's game for Detroit. The Rays also get a prospect in shortstop Willy Adames from the Tigers.
p.s. Personally, i can't see Drew being much of an improvement over Roberts. Drew hasn't played second base in ages & he can't hit. I had question marks about Roberts earlier on, but he's impressed me over the past couple of months.
BOYZZZ!
Oh you'd rather have two guys who wear pinstripes. SUURRRRPRRRISE! Considering everything The Red Sox did very well.
Yes, the Red Sox got someone who could develop into a more consistent threat. If you look at Ortiz' stats before coming to Boston his hitting issues and strengths were much the same.
On the idea that the plan all along has been to use Lester as bait only to bring him back I think this has the same flavor as a fantasy conspiracy theory. Lester has always struck me as being very straight up and you would need his compliance to pull such a game off. Plus his agents have to put their reputations on the line and they have a lot more at stake than just handling Jon Lester. I don't see it happening. It would be down right incredible, but I don't see it.
With both Lester and Lackey going that accounts for the top two pitchers of the 2013 World Series Championship team. That's a huge hit. In my view a solid pitcher is worth almost any two solid hitters. e do have a guy named Henry Owen in AA who is tearing up that league with 14 wins, and may very soon be at AAA, but that's far from being a oven stalwart, especially one with such as superb playoff record as Lester. There are also some top notch pitchers at AAA Pawtucket like Drake Britton and Anthony Ranaudo, but again, they are prospects with good to very good potential, not proven MLB pitchers like the two we just traded.
Weather...you're saying weather will decide? OMG! You do realize bud that Boston and New York have nearly identical weather, so you're saying he wouldn't choose NY as well. Oy vey.
This deal may put Lester off Boston. If I were him I wouldn't be very happy about either being traded, or used as bait if Doc's theory has any chance. New York will be pouring money offers at him, but their team is ready to fall apart for many reasons. If the division hadn't turned into a slew of light weights this year NY would be 4th now. They're lucky they've got great relievers. It will take some damn fine contract offer to get Lester there. I think Doc's right that the Dodgers or Angels have a better chance.
The Red Sox have obviously pulled the plug on this year to go into serious rebuilding mode as I said yesterday. It's a smart move rather than trying to keep Lester and Lackey for new long term mega contracts, which would then make them both very undesirable to other teams, and hoping a tweak here or there in the batting order will do the trick. The retooling is THE major benefit of the 2013 World Series, buying Cherington time to do this.
You'd kiss John Farrell on the mouth with tongue to have had another World Series win and last place the year before and after be damned.
Drew is considered a solid fielder, but Sox fans have been tired of him since he has turned into a huge hole in the lineup. He did hit 13 HRs last year, most early, but he was EPIC for horrible throughout the playoffs, and this year Sox fans close their eyes when he comes to bat. If he's an improvement in NY then...HOLY SHIT!. Many......mmmmmmmmmmmaany THANKS Yanks.
So the cat is out of the bag now, the Red Sox are dedicated to rebuilding. So far I give Cherington a B+ on the Lester deal and a B- overall because there's so much more to work out.
Cheers,
Merlot
Oh you'd rather have two guys who wear pinstripes. SUURRRRPRRRISE! Considering everything The Red Sox did very well.
Yes, the Red Sox got someone who could develop into a more consistent threat. If you look at Ortiz' stats before coming to Boston his hitting issues and strengths were much the same.
On the idea that the plan all along has been to use Lester as bait only to bring him back I think this has the same flavor as a fantasy conspiracy theory. Lester has always struck me as being very straight up and you would need his compliance to pull such a game off. Plus his agents have to put their reputations on the line and they have a lot more at stake than just handling Jon Lester. I don't see it happening. It would be down right incredible, but I don't see it.
With both Lester and Lackey going that accounts for the top two pitchers of the 2013 World Series Championship team. That's a huge hit. In my view a solid pitcher is worth almost any two solid hitters. e do have a guy named Henry Owen in AA who is tearing up that league with 14 wins, and may very soon be at AAA, but that's far from being a oven stalwart, especially one with such as superb playoff record as Lester. There are also some top notch pitchers at AAA Pawtucket like Drake Britton and Anthony Ranaudo, but again, they are prospects with good to very good potential, not proven MLB pitchers like the two we just traded.
Weather...you're saying weather will decide? OMG! You do realize bud that Boston and New York have nearly identical weather, so you're saying he wouldn't choose NY as well. Oy vey.
This deal may put Lester off Boston. If I were him I wouldn't be very happy about either being traded, or used as bait if Doc's theory has any chance. New York will be pouring money offers at him, but their team is ready to fall apart for many reasons. If the division hadn't turned into a slew of light weights this year NY would be 4th now. They're lucky they've got great relievers. It will take some damn fine contract offer to get Lester there. I think Doc's right that the Dodgers or Angels have a better chance.
The Red Sox have obviously pulled the plug on this year to go into serious rebuilding mode as I said yesterday. It's a smart move rather than trying to keep Lester and Lackey for new long term mega contracts, which would then make them both very undesirable to other teams, and hoping a tweak here or there in the batting order will do the trick. The retooling is THE major benefit of the 2013 World Series, buying Cherington time to do this.
You'd kiss John Farrell on the mouth with tongue to have had another World Series win and last place the year before and after be damned.
Drew is considered a solid fielder, but Sox fans have been tired of him since he has turned into a huge hole in the lineup. He did hit 13 HRs last year, most early, but he was EPIC for horrible throughout the playoffs, and this year Sox fans close their eyes when he comes to bat. If he's an improvement in NY then...HOLY SHIT!. Many......mmmmmmmmmmmaany THANKS Yanks.
So the cat is out of the bag now, the Red Sox are dedicated to rebuilding. So far I give Cherington a B+ on the Lester deal and a B- overall because there's so much more to work out.
Cheers,
Merlot
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I was actually pulling for him and the Red Sox last night & by the 5th inning he had me screaming at the tv!
The Red Sox should have tried to package him with Lester. To be honest, he kind of reminds me of Ricky Romero, whom i suspect will never pitch in the major leagues again after a once promising career. Buchholz needs to be sent to the minors to get his game back together!
Boyzzz!
Buckholz aka Daniel Bard Jr. The only difference is who ruined who, Bobby V ruined Bard and John Farrell ruined Bucky.
Doc, i must say i totally agree with you about John Farrell. He was the luckiest manager in the history of the game by winning a WS on nothing but pure luck last year because once again this season he showed he cant manage to save his life, just like when he was with the Jays.
Buckholz aka Daniel Bard Jr. The only difference is who ruined who, Bobby V ruined Bard and John Farrell ruined Bucky.
Doc, i must say i totally agree with you about John Farrell. He was the luckiest manager in the history of the game by winning a WS on nothing but pure luck last year because once again this season he showed he cant manage to save his life, just like when he was with the Jays.
Imagine if Buchholz was traded a few years ago when everybody including some of the Boston sportscasters were calling for him to be dealt, the Red Sox would have gotten something of value if they pulled the trigger then, now his value is a bottle of water, classic example of mismanagement by the Red Sox who will likely see the basement for the next few years, the question now is who will be let go at the end of the season, Farrell?, Cherington? or maybe both, I personally do not think that Henry cares about the Red Sox, his main interest seems to be overseas in Liverpool these days.
It's amazing that the Yankees are still in the playoff hunt at .523 and it looks like Pineda and Tanaka will be back in the line-up to end the season, so who knows? And they just beat Detroit! However, this whole season has just been depressing for all of us, hasn't it? You know, Joe.t, it's not too early to start the NFL thread...
I'd be surprised to see Tanaka back, even if the latest reports have been positive. I still believe he's heading for Tommy John.
As for Pineda, he's one pitch away from another trip to the DL.
And indeed, it is surprising that they are still in the playoffs hunt.
As for Pineda, he's one pitch away from another trip to the DL.
And indeed, it is surprising that they are still in the playoffs hunt.
As is every pitcher in the game. Pineda has been out since April so he should be fully healed by now and looked great in his first live game action in 3 plus months the other night
Yankees fans are not at all surprised, not when you have one of the best GM's and one of the best Managers in the game today. Both should be in the running for GM and Manager of the Year.
I heard his injury was actually toxic poisoning from having that goop spread all over his fucken neck in April. Hopefully it's all out of the cheating scumbags system now
Wow, that was harsh SK! (red sox must of lost again tonight)
Not yet, but almost lol, just blew it in the bottom of the 8th. I'm happier now though because the Yanks just gave up a blast in the top 12. BTW it's not about the Sox for me any more this season, it's about watching the Yanks crumble. Hahaha.
And then there's Joba Chamberlain who's so ecstatic to be out of the Bronx and on a competitive team that he let his beard go wild. Hahaha.
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