A question about the difference between an incall and an outcall.

[blover]

I have the feeling that this question would have already been asked in the past but could not find anything with the search engine.

I have the impression that the "whales" of merb prefer outcalls to incalls generally.

Being new to the hobby and always on a tight schedule, I have only done incalls until now. What makes outcalls more special/better? I understand that if you hobby from the comfort of your home, that would be obvious but I am talking from a h/motel.

That brings another side question. How much time do you reserve minimum on your schedule to arrange an outcall? (time to check-in room, sp lateness factor, 1 hour session and check-out)

Thanks! And correct me if I'm wrong about the incall/outcall difference. (The grass seems always greener on the other side of the fence..)

B.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Outcalls are legal and incalls are not, for one thing. You can research threads on the bawdy house law which is beyond the scope of this thread. Outcall girls generally charge a higher rate and make more money, so it is reasonable to conclude that your overall selection of girls is better because that is the pure economic reality. Girls are in the business to make money, not to make you feel better about yourself. The progression is that the better incall girls become outcall girls, not usually the other way around, except for indies. There is not really anything more to say. Incall is considered lower in the food chain in the industry, that is the plain and simple truth and it is mostly for economic reasons.

Incall is more convenient for guys who cannot afford to pay for lodging or who can't be seen at lodging but my guess generally the former. This is why the food chain is what it is.

 

[hormone]

I think the BEav' pretty muh sums up the very general differences. In general, outcall agencies have hotter girls (average) than incall places. But as with anything, there are exceptions. Some agencies you find here on MERB run incall and outcall possibilities and get very good reviews with good--if not great -- quality incall ladies (they're easy to find...). There are some very well reviewed independant ladies in the incall department also, some of them who have been rated as "top notch experience" by very reliable members. Clearly worth your time and money.

When I lived in Montreal, I would almost exclusively order out, I did not care much about my neighbours noticing deliveries. Now I still do order out, from my hotel room when I am in town for longer periods, but if i am just here for the day, I prefer to cut my costs with a good incall lady if I find one to my tastes. Let's face it: for the same amount of money invested I can meet 4 girls instead of 3 if I don't have to pay for a hotel room each time! It's true I don't go for the 140/ hr incall girls though, it is possible these are really lesser quality than the 180 range ones.

Finally another factor could have some importance. I am turned on by how sexy a girl looks fully clothed. NIce dress, tight jeans, low cut blouse, thigh high boots or nice heels... undressing her is a big part of the fun, mounting the tension, unwrapping a present! This is something you almost only get with outcall --- I only realised it when I started doing more incall, with the girls already waiting for you in underwear or bikinis...

 

[Conan]

I tried incall once and didn't like it at all. It was a regular agency that was providing incalls on certain days. I got to the hotel and called as instructed. I was told to wait 10 minutes and call again. It was obvious that the guy before me wasn't done. She was waiting for me wearing just a bathrobe. I brought a bottle of wine, she already had three partially finished bottles. It was obvious that the bed sheets hadn't been changed and overall, everything there was reminding me about what was going on before I got there. Not that I didn't know, but it was hard to get turned on and I left SOG-less. I tried one more time with a well known independent that recently started advertising here again. I got to the place where she wanted me to be and then waited like an idiot for about 45 minutes for a phone call from her that never came. She claimed to have called me several times but I am sure she was lying as I have tested my phone and messaging while I was waiting. After these experiences, I decided that for the money it saves, doing incalls just wasn't worth it for me.

For me outcalls work much better. I like getting to the room early, clean up, relax, meditate a little to get my mind off every day shit, and read the girl's reviews to build excitement. Then when the girl comes, the knock on the door is always exciting. And I guess the part of playing the host works better for me than being part of the assembly line you get into with incalls.

 

[blover]

to EB: thanks for confirming what I was suspecting. Interesting (and important) point you bring about the legality...

to H: thanks and yes I have read about the gems posted in the incall section. And its true about the clothing/foreplay point! The only little thing that I found lacking when I saw Max**e was that she was already down to her unddies when I got out of the shower!

If I may, one question remains for me: how much time do one need MINIMUM, to execute a planned outcall in a hotel for a 1 hour visit and be SAFE not to get late in their schedule?

Sadly, when I was younger, I had all the time in the world but not all the money to do all I wanted, now that I have more than enough money, I have much less free time.. One day I will have more than enough of both, but then, my body will not keep up anymore...

B.

 

[CLOUD 500]

to EB: thanks for confirming what I was suspecting. Interesting (and important) point you bring about the legality...

to H: thanks and yes I have read about the gems posted in the incall section. And its true about the clothing/foreplay point! The only little thing that I found lacking when I saw Max**e was that she was already down to her unddies when I got out of the shower!

If I may, one question remains for me: how much do one need MINIMUM, to execute a planned outcall in a hotel for a 1 hour visit and be SAFE not to get late in their schedule?

Sadly, when I was younger, I had all the time in the world but not all the money to do all I wanted, now that I have more than enough money, I have much less free time.. One day I will have more than enough of both, but then, my body will not keep up anymore...

B.

Hmm. Let us see. It is about $180/hr for a typical outcall from one of the reliable agencies. I have used Motel Ideal which is about $40 for four hours. So I would say the minimum for one hour of outcall would be about $220. Still a bargain in my opinion for what you are getting.

 

[blover]

Thanks Cloud, but I was not clear about my question.. I meant how much in term of time not money. Sorry to have not been clear.. (i see that I wrote only how much)

B.

 

[sigma69]

That brings another side question. How much time do you reserve minimum on your schedule to arrange an outcall? (time to check-in room, sp lateness factor, 1 hour session and check-out)

B.

Most h/motels that cater to hobbyists will offer rooms for blocks of 4hrs. You will be charged the same amount whether you stay the entire 4hrs or just 1h30mins. Blocks of 4hrs cannot be booked over the phone or reserved ahead of time. You have to show up.

How much time you need for an encounter will depend on you and how organized you are. Overall, I like to get to the h/motel one hour before the scheduled encounter.

There are imponderables...things that are hard to control. At times, these h/motels can get really busy. When you get there, you may need to wait before getting your room. I've never had to wait more than 10 mins or so, but I am told that certain days and at certain times (late afternoon), there can be a line of folks waiting to register.

Once in the room, my routine is usually to:
- call the agency, give them the room number and confirm that the lady is on time;
- ladies appreciate a freshly showered gentleman, so allow for that;
- relax and wait for the proverbial, and so delightful, knock on the door...

Some agencies have better track records than others as far as on-time arrivals. Read the reviews and look at the (fairly) recent Best Agency survey and you can't go wrong. If you are particularly pressed by time, you may want to tell the booker. Make him understand that on-time arrival is important to you. But be reasonable: delays of 15 or 20 mins are usually considered "normal." With all the construction going on in Montreal right now, it is a miracle that anyone can get anywhere on time...

Finally, checkout is really up to you. Some guys need to shower again to remove...evidence. Depending on which h/motel you use, checkout may also require a stop in the lobby, and possibly another wait.