The problem with Amsterdam...
Equanimity said:
As far as choice - Amsterdam ( one of the few times I can approve of window shopping
)
As far as value - Kiev
.. is that the women are used to dealing with tourists (i.e. dudes who are there for a couple of days but don't live there) ergo.. a) they have no incentive to deliver the best services, b) go into upsell to extract the most value from you.
Been there, done that, won't return.
The Dutch (who are notorious for being cheap.. where else do you think the expression
going Dutch comes from?) do not patronize their own RLD.
Where you will find a lot of Dutch is.. just across the border at German FKK clubs.
The name Golden Triangle is given to the
Grenzgebiet just across from Holland in NRW and features three clubs: Parksauna Wildenrath, Planet Happy Garden and Goldentime.
Want to read up on the FKK scene from a Dutch perspective? There is the
Ijsberenforum which is entirely in Dutch for the Dutch by the Dutch.
I can't comment on Kiev.