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Abuse denunciation: Le Rubicon and Carte Blanche Agency in Montreal

malboro_man

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April Rose: your story is horrifying. Nothing good can come out of being in a room with 50 horny men. Men in groups will do things that they do not as individuals.

It seems that one of the girls was arguably raped to a degree. With one bad experience previously, why did you and the other girls go back? It seems that the pay was not much to begin with.

I am surprised nothing worse happened. I sympathise with you and am not trying to blame the victim. Most escorts would refuse to see 2 men at the same time, let alone 50.
 

duccess123

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Damn i had discovered the website Lerubicon a long time ago but never participated in one yet. I was very interested to go because always wanted to try orgies or gbs but now with all you said im scared to go as a client because too much of a bad organisation and abuse. I dont want to get involded with all these type of scandals. I always want to be the most discret and low profile possible. This type of behavior they have is so wrong and will bring police into us. I will never go there. Im not looking for problems, im looking for sexy times.
 

liloudallas

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I'm curious, did something came out of those allegations? Any official complaints? Detention? Anything?
 

Miss kiki International

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I didn’t know where else to post this but I just wanted to post this in response to what is going on.Today I got an email from a police officer to my work email and it is making me frustrated and very angry. I do not appreciate these type of emails. I am quite upset as my father is a lawyer and asked me who started all of this trouble with the police and with this event company. I Do not want to be involved with any cases with police officers detective sex workers and clients.
Where is the trust? Where is the privacy?
I worked in this industry before April rose and never have I heard of a situation like this posted on Merb review board and situation which involves involving police officers and having them contact sex workers. I can only imagine how my email was exposed and given out to detectives of sex crimes . I asked myself did April rose give the detective personal work emails of sex workers and clients? ? I feel like this is a breach of privacy. I am very upset that I was contacted today by a police officer sorry a detective of sex crimes.
I am not saying that everyone’s story and everyone’s experiences is made up but it is their own but I never experienced anything like rape Or any of the other accusations. I really find this terrible what is going on . Only now I’m speaking about it because of this email being sent to my work email and putting me in a horrible state of mind.

I will be having my father contact this detective and find out how my email was given out. I i’ve been in this industry a very long time and I will tell you nothing shocks me but this whole situation is just mind blowing that it is going on.

I am a little disappointed with April rose that this whole thing started it is now involving people that need privacy and people that trusted us as companions to keep their privacy and be confidential.
I am speechless
 

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I didn’t know where else to post this but I just wanted to post this in response to what is going on.Today I got an email from a police officer to my work email and it is making me frustrated and very angry. I do not appreciate these type of emails. I am quite upset as my father is a lawyer and asked me who started all of this trouble with the police and with this event company. I Do not want to be involved with any cases with police officers detective sex workers and clients.
Where is the trust? Where is the privacy?
I worked in this industry before April rose and never have I heard of a situation like this posted on Merb review board and situation which involves involving police officers and having them contact sex workers. I can only imagine how my email was exposed and given out to detectives of sex crimes . I asked myself did April rose give the detective personal work emails of sex workers and clients? ? I feel like this is a breach of privacy. I am very upset that I was contacted today by a police officer sorry a detective of sex crimes.
I am not saying that everyone’s story and everyone’s experiences is made up but it is their own but I never experienced anything like rape Or any of the other accusations. I really find this terrible what is going on . Only now I’m speaking about it because of this email being sent to my work email and putting me in a horrible state of mind.

I will be having my father contact this detective and find out how my email was given out. I i’ve been in this industry a very long time and I will tell you nothing shocks me but this whole situation is just mind blowing that it is going on.

I am a little disappointed with April rose that this whole thing started it is now involving people that need privacy and people that trusted us as companions to keep their privacy and be confidential.
I am speechless
thats kinda weird to get an email from a police officer...does not sound legit to me...but i could be wrong...hope its nothing
 
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April Killian / Rose

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I didn’t know where else to post this but I just wanted to post this in response to what is going on.Today I got an email from a police officer to my work email and it is making me frustrated and very angry. I do not appreciate these type of emails. I am quite upset as my father is a lawyer and asked me who started all of this trouble with the police and with this event company. I Do not want to be involved with any cases with police officers detective sex workers and clients.
Where is the trust? Where is the privacy?
I worked in this industry before April rose and never have I heard of a situation like this posted on Merb review board and situation which involves involving police officers and having them contact sex workers. I can only imagine how my email was exposed and given out to detectives of sex crimes . I asked myself did April rose give the detective personal work emails of sex workers and clients? ? I feel like this is a breach of privacy. I am very upset that I was contacted today by a police officer sorry a detective of sex crimes.
I am not saying that everyone’s story and everyone’s experiences is made up but it is their own but I never experienced anything like rape Or any of the other accusations. I really find this terrible what is going on . Only now I’m speaking about it because of this email being sent to my work email and putting me in a horrible state of mind.

I will be having my father contact this detective and find out how my email was given out. I i’ve been in this industry a very long time and I will tell you nothing shocks me but this whole situation is just mind blowing that it is going on.

I am a little disappointed with April rose that this whole thing started it is now involving people that need privacy and people that trusted us as companions to keep their privacy and be confidential.
I am speechless
Hi Kiki.
Thanks so much for posting about this and for the message you've sent me. I will take the time to address this here as well, as you mentioned my name several times and i feel like i need to clarify the situation.

To start, MK has been arrested a few weeks ago for his actions and will be passing in court shortly.
I don't have more information regarding the whole matter.

I want to let it be known that I have never given anyones information to the police. I have not betrayed anyones secrecy or privacy in anyway possible. The police have access to information that i don't. Sex work is based on trust and respect for everyones identity. There's no universe in which i would jeopardize everyones names and secrecy. Yes i have led the denunciation but i wasnt the only victims of his actions. i brought us together to take a stand as a community to stop his actions and protect each other. My goal was to prevent other victims, my goal was to let clients know that the organisation wasnt led by a safe person. Everything i've done came from a place of love and respect for this industry and the people i care for. I want us all to be able to work in a safe enviroment, with safe people.
I'm very sorry that the police calling you has scared you and has left you shaken. I would have probably reacted the same way if i were in your shoes. I dont find it fair to accuse me of jeopardizing everyones secrecy as i had nothing to do with that aspect of the legal procedures, neither was aware that this was to happen.
I have been in this industry for 7 years, this is something i love and will always fight for. This whole situation is leaving me shaken as well.

It reassures me to read that things he has done haven't happened to you personally. I do care for you a lot. I do remember standing up for you on multiple occasions in events, we both know that he wasn't a fair person.
I will be in contact with the police again tomorrow am to get more details about all of this and what it implies for all of us.
I'm again very sorry that this has affected you. You shouldn't have been involved and you are right.
 

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thats kinda weird to get an email from a police officer...does not sound legit to me...but i could be wrong...hope its nothing
I would normally agree, but if this was the only contact information for her that was available to the cop, it would be the only way to get in touch with her. How would the cop know her real name or real phone number if all he was given was her work name? He probably chose the only method of contact available to him- her work email.
 

liloudallas

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Well, i think it's even worse than what have been reported here. Maitre K is even accused of child abuse:


 
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just some guy

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Hello, I'm new here
all I can say is this is fascinating. You don't suppose they may want to know who the customers were/are? If it involves minors, they may have some questions. I always knew these type of events were risky and just a bad idea. Lucky for me I always found these gang bang public nudity events weird. and kind of grossed out over it, but some guys have that kink. I'm guessing this place is closed now?
 

liloudallas

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Hello, I'm new here
all I can say is this is fascinating. You don't suppose they may want to know who the customers were/are? If it involves minors, they may have some questions. I always knew these type of events were risky and just a bad idea. Lucky for me I always found these gang bang public nudity events weird. and kind of grossed out over it, but some guys have that kink. I'm guessing this place is closed now?
Yes the place is closed since the denunciation. To my knowledge the events hold at Le Rubicon didn't implicate minors, but who knows now?
 

Pedro999

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Well, i think it's even worse than what have been reported here. Maitre K is even accused of child abuse:


What a piece of sh...t ! Hope he gets jailed for life sentenced and not only 3 years doing 1/8 of his sentense
 

Julia Sky

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Disgusting. And to think that some people in this thread were almost trying to defend the bastard... I hope these people feel bad about it and I hope this monster gets what he deserves.
 

johnOfChina

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@Miss kiki International ,
I would think the Police got hold of your contact (and maybe other girls involved in Le Rubicon/Carte Blanche) during their investigation.
I am pretty sure the Police took all his devices (phone, computer, etc ..) and tries to find any lead to find the victims.

I do wonder if the Police will try to find the clients of such disgusting act. Would the Authorities get the contacts of MK's clients - either from Le Rubicon or Carte Blanche ?

I can only hope all pedophiles will get caught and face justice. May we practice safe sex and be respectful to each other.
 

liloudallas

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I do wonder if the Police will try to find the clients of such disgusting act. Would the Authorities get the contacts of MK's clients - either from Le Rubicon or Carte Blanche ?

I personnaly attended 3 events at Le Rubicon and used Carte Blanche once. The police didn't contact me yet. They can contact me I got nothing to hide. I didn't had sex with any minors and I didn't rape no one.

I also know very very well a SP who was a regular at Rubicon and on the roaster of Carte Blanche and she didn't get contacted by the police yet. He had her personnal phone number and real name.

During her "training session" before her 1st GB at Rubicon, he did tried to have sex with her. She is in her 30's, she refused, he didn't push and back off. Obviously others were not that lucky.

The bastard can rot in jail. Justice will take care of him and all his victims are showing a lot of courage by denonciating him.
 

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So simply put now this guy will be getting into gang bangs too but an involuntary don't drop your soap variety. Well ain't Karma is a real biatch. Hehehehehehehe.......
 
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So simply put now this guy will be getting into gang bangs too but an involuntary don't drop your soap variety. Well ain't Karma is a real biatch. Hehehehehehehe.......
An update...https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/2021-07-22/maitre-k-accuse-d-avoir-fait-huit-victimes-le-spvm-en-recherche-d-autres.php

That being said, I think many people choose to ignore the obvious when practicing hobbying. Ethical hobbying is difficult to do, and expensive.

But when you read this (and Kudos to all you women who had the strength to stand up to this horrible man), it does put forth the question: Do I make sure my lifestyle choice respectful to the women who are involved.

I am not condemning the hobby lifestyle. I am saying all of us are responsible for the conditions in which it is enjoyed.
 

April Killian / Rose

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Hi there all. I just wanted to circle back to this as it's been in the news a few times in the last month and will continue to surface in the news in the next weeks.
He has today pleaded guilty on a lot of the accounts he was brought to court for. At the time being, they are estimating 12 years for his actions. this sentence will be revealed and discussed in the next 60 days. I want to thank again all of the victims who have come forward about this atrocity of a person. To all of you who preferred to be in silence, we want you all to know that your perpetrator is now in jail, if it can give you some relief.
As you can now see in the news, our stories were just the tip of the iceberg of how horrible he actually was. And our tip of the iceberg was already quite horrifying. I'm still speechless regarding all the things i've heard today.
This is a big step for sex workers in court, being heard and respected, not being judged by lawyers, police and such. I really do hope this case serves as an example for future cases, for others that have suffered in silence (some of the actions he committed go back over a decade). I hope this makes our community stronger and heard. that it keeps people who want us harm to stay away.

As a client, you can always chose the ethical path. And you can be ethical at any/ all price ranges. It horrifies me that all of you think that cheaper means less bouandaries/ more sex/ whatever horrible comment... I've started in this industry at 90 freaking dollars per hour years ago, i gave then the same service i give today. Your respect for the individual shouldnt be reflected in the price you pay. it should be reflected in your behavior and respect for the woman and person in front of you at all time.

Also, just circling back to when kiki accused me of giving the police everyones private information ; as spoken with the enqueteure today, they did go through his phones and computers, its normal, they were looking for other victims that would be willing to help and share their story, they werent looking for clients informations. they honnestly arent searching about anything that is done with consent between agreeing adults.

Gangbangs and orgies arent a bad or nasty thing. They are wonderful experiences when shared in a space that is safe and consentual and respectful of your boundaries. The type of activity in this situation shouldnt be pointed fingers at. The fingers should be pointed to the person who abused of peoples trust and put them/us in dangerous situations, didnt respect them in any way and enticed others to abuse of them as well.

To all the comments that said we had no case and that there were too many gray areas, im sorry but fuck you. It took almost 4 years to get this guy to plead guilty. The case was so solid, there was so much undeniable proof of all his offenses. We have the best Procureure in montreal, we had the best enqueteure in montreal. We were heard and people wanted to help us. if over 30 people come together to voice an injustice, then there was severe injustice. we don't make that shit up. you think we just sit down in a park and make up these stories?? Why is it so hard for some of you to just believe us. Why do we have to fight to prove that we are right instead of being supported since the start. Us comming forward saved a 7yo from being perpetually rapped, our voices made the investigation go so deep already that when they ceased everything, thats how they found her. To the fucker that wanted us to open a case and not talk about this in public... What is wrong with you? we are finally getting results now, years later, imagine the damage that would have continued to other women, to that child!!!!! if he hadnt spoken up as loud as we did. pardon my french but you are quite Le fucked up.

It's hard to stay poise when you spend days in court, having recited endlessly all the attrocities that hes done to people you care for and to a fucking young girl. I will not post links that relate to this man or the situation here as they are quite triggering, i dont want to impose the sight of that news on anyone. you are welcome to search for it yourself if you feel strong enough to read those things.

To Providers out there, the team i worked with is dedicated to making things right for us. Our rights are human rights. We have never felt any stigma, judgement from the team. If you need to information about safe people to reach out to, please contact me, i will not question anything, i will simply give you the information. You shouldn't endure anything you weren't comfortable with, youre voice is valid. the contact i have is related to the sexual crimes division, which includes in and out of sex work situations.

Sending lots of love out there. Lots of love to all victims that came forward and to the ones who chose silence. Lots of love to everyone who has supported us in this journey, to the clients that believe us.
 
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