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Are SPs getting uglier than 3-4 years ago?

malboro_man

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metoo: good point....we have to make the best of what we have. Mtl is still the best :smile:

merlot: yes, I've subscribed to this board since 2005, but my first experience dates back to 1997.
The first call was mediocre. I called again 1 year later in 1998. She was 19 y.o. I would give
her a 7/10 today. I thought she was a goddess back then. It was just one or two time thing
per year for the next 3 years. Then, I began to hobby more...way too much. At the time, I didn't
care as long as they were 18-19 y.o. (the age range I can't get in real life). Luckily, as I mentioned
earlier, I was able get see a few 7+/10 per year. Maybe it's negative feedback too. I am seeing fewer
girls too in the last 2 years.

Patron: good point about photoshopping. How do they make the boobies much better than the
live version? Don't forget using pics a few years old.
 

Toxic1979

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J Jones.... Completely agree. I think the most us Johns (not all) would be pretty low on the scale. If there was a gentleman Category, I'd like to think I would be able to score high... be then again, I am paying her to open her legs! How gentleman like is that in reality?

Surely they are in it for the money..... 90% of those I chat with tell me its quick money (for debts mostly) for a few years and then they are out. I've actually spent time with a few repeaters, that are officially retired and gone (T.O.).

But there a small portion of SP's that really do enjoy meeting new folks, and getting the hell bang out of them or banging the hell out of a customer. Either that, or they have one hell of a fake routine..... works for me though!
 

E. F. Hutton

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It all in the luck of the draw, I once called an escort service and they sent over a girl of about 24. I was in the motel room waiting for her when I decided to get some ice down the hall. When he walked pass me towards my room, she was dressed like an Ogilvie's model with very expensive clothes. She looked too good to be true. She gave a good GFE experience.
She was a part timer, maybe 3 or 4 times a month.
 

CLOUD 500

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I have not noticed any difference in the looks of escorts from 5 years ago to today. But also there is some psychology to what people have been commenting on. It is human nature to want what they cannot have. Escorts are public and will see anyone and give GFE to almost anyone regardless of appearance or age. The value drops. But the girl you see on the street or even the barmaid in the stripclub everyone says she is the hottest girl... they only say that cuz they are not public and will likely never get the chance to get intimate with her.

On the other hand I have noticed a major decrease in the quality of strippers. I hardly see knockouts nowadays. I used to see lots 5 years ago.
 

Merlot

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...there is some psychology to what people have been commenting on. It is human nature to want what they cannot have.

Hello Cloud,

This is one of your more keen insights. But I would alter it slightly to say: it's human nature to value higher what they cannot have rather than what they have. I have thought the same thing at times in regard to escorts. I have met some great, great ladies. But somehow when I see beautiful women elsewhere, on the street, on television, in movies, or fantasize about some pornstars it seems like I've never met anyone that great looking or that hot. But looking back carefully I realize...I really have.

Funny that with all the recent "stuff" in the Quebecer thread, one of the best lines I remember on this phenomenon of always thinking there is better out there was from an episode of the original Star Trek called "Amok Time" where the sexual urge forces Spock to fight for his mate. But as Spock realizes afterward: "HAVING IS NOT SO PLEASING A THING AS WANTING". Says it all.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

jeff jones

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Well i just reckon on my next trip to mtl i will book myself 6 ladies, two will look as good as the top hollywood starletts, two will look as good as two playboy centerfolds, not just your average centerfold i am talking the playmate of the year and two will look as good as a top nfl cheerleader and all for a buck eighty an hour, hot diggety dog as Jethro Bodine would say i can't wait:)
 

Guido

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There are a lot of former escorts and strippers that have switched to the massage parlors because of a preferance to work day shifts and live a more normal life.
 

CLOUD 500

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5 years ago they were hot.... did the recession force the hotties into other revenue streams...LOL?

It seems there is a general tity bar decline. There is a lot of competition from massage parlors and escorts. The clients now are much more demanding then they were five years ago. The hotties are not willing to provide escort services and the money made from stripping is just not worth anymore to justify living that odd unusual lifestyle. I know of many strippers that have quit dancing. It simply is not as lucrative as it was ten years ago.
 

CLOUD 500

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Hello Cloud,

This is one of your more keen insights. But I would alter it slightly to say: it's human nature to value higher what they cannot have rather than what they have.

I agree with your correction :thumb:

But as Spock realizes afterward: "HAVING IS NOT SO PLEASING A THING AS WANTING". Says it all.

That is exactly the point I was making. I remember this regular stripper of mine I was so interested in her. Once she accepted take out with me she gave herself to me 100% pure GFE. After a few take out sessions I lost interest in her. I guess once I had her I was no longer interested.
 

Numerati

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I wouldn't say "uglier." More like SPs including civilian chics don't put much emphasis on their choice of attire. During the height of the HDH era the women really dressed up for the rendezvous. Really focused on the presentation, the whole package. Nowadays I see the girls are more in a laid back kind of choice of clothing. Like in jeans, sneakers, T-shirts and sandals. I am sure if the girls took things more seriously and dressed to the 9s I am sure the opinions of them would be "higher."

What I do notice is that some SPs really take it over the top with tattoos. Some are tasteful but others are just too much.
 

malboro_man

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I wouldn't say "uglier." More like SPs including civilian chics don't put much emphasis on their choice of attire.

Their clothes come off anyways....it doesn't make much of a difference what they wear. If you are beautiful, you don't need the clothes or makeup. There were a number of girls like that in the "good old days" (before advertising on the Internet became popular). Perhaps, the golden age of hobbying is over :(
 

Numerati

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I understand where you are coming from malboro_man. Plus not only about looks. When the USD had meaning in the first few years of 2000s, there were some real quality gems that would enter this game. Thus both looks and you are emotionally satisfied with the encounter were the norm. Back then there were lots of repeats plus dinner "dates." Now it is more like one two hour encounter and you forget that you ever met her.

The way I can say when things will be meaningful again like the old days is when the USD heads back to its former glory. Yet I don't see that will be for a very long time since not so long ago the US Fed decided to extend these low interest rates until 2016.
 

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I would rarely rate any girls at 8/10 or above. Conversely, I would not
rate any guy over 8/10.

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How many guys have you seen?

I can't judge the current girls because I don't see many of them. I can comment that I think the golden age of the Montreal HDH is over. There vis no longer a steady diet of the Emma's, Coralie's, etc etc
 

jeff jones

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I can comment that I think the golden age of the Montreal HDH is over. There vis no longer a steady diet of the Emma's, Coralie's, etc etc

It's not just the hdh sector but the golden age of the agencies may also be over, I miss the days when an attractive girl would swallow just because they really liked us now it seems like you get charged an extra just to have them knock on your door:)
 

Numerati

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How many guys have you seen?

I can't judge the current girls because I don't see many of them. I can comment that I think the golden age of the Montreal HDH is over. There vis no longer a steady diet of the Emma's, Coralie's, etc etc

The Emmas and Coralies are definitely out there. Just that you have to pay twice what you were paying before without the favorable exchange rates. Plus they are more spread out to other cities like Toronto. More time and research have to be performed to find them as opposed to in the past.
 

CLOUD 500

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Their clothes come off anyways....it doesn't make much of a difference what they wear. If you are beautiful, you don't need the clothes or makeup. There were a number of girls like that in the "good old days"

I completely agree with you over here. As I said before I did not notice the difference with escorts as I was never in the that scene anyways. However there is a major decline with the strippers. Now a lot of the strippers I see are either out of shape or overweight. I rarely see a slim fit tight stripper these days and since I am into Ebony women that is even harder to find. Back in the days in early to mid 2000 I saw many drop dead gorgeous strippers.

Just as an example I went to Les Deesses last Sunday. I was horrifyed by what I saw. I saw a bunch of not pretty out of shape strippers. Last time I went which was in 2005 the club was packed with sexy beautiful slim strippers.

Most of the hot chicks are either gone out of town or to Toronto. The pay is far better over there. Quebecers are not big spenders at tity bars and I suspect the same thing for escorts as the prices are a lot lower here then it is in Toronto.
 

jeff jones

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I rarely see a slim fit tight stripper these days and since I am into Ebony women that is even harder to find. Back in the days in early to mid 2000 I saw many drop dead gorgeous strippers.

Just as an example I went to Les Deesses last Sunday. I was horrifyed by what I saw. I saw a bunch of not pretty out of shape strippers. Last time I went which was in 2005 the club was packed with sexy beautiful slim strippers.

The real slim fit hotties all dance at cleo's. It is now my favorite stripclub.
 
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