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I don't think many SPs are smart enough to realize this - but they will be wise to avoid Nigerian clients.

Imagine a black nigerian guy visiting Canada - has undiagnosed Ebola and boom, the SP gets it from him. Canada doesn't have a medical test for people who are visiting for less than 6 months. So this scenario is quite possible.

Ideally, they should avoid anyone who has had sex with a nigerian person recently OR anyone who has been to West Africa recently. But it's really hard to find that out.

This also brings me to the 2nd point - in terms of perceptions, Canadian black guys are considered much more safe, healthy ( free of STDs and other diseases) and respectful than their african brethren.
 

Merlot

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Gents,

Sorry i am a bit outphased by the thread, but to answer Mocha, well maybe yeah girls that are "mixed" may not be considered thecnically full blacks, i dunno, lol, not sure how to mention this really but personally i am more attracked to the mixed as you put it. Thing is if i could see the face on picture and such i would have a better idea, but i am yes indeed very picky when it comes to facial structure for black girls. I saw a few that really turned me on, but mostly i am not attracked by prononced jaws and thecnical black aspect.

Personally, it makes me cringe and feel sorry that it seems anyone with a bit of African heritage, or any heritage that's related to that background to any degree is ever categorized automatically as Black. If that is the label they wish to use that's fine. But looking at it that way automatically feels like people have been giving in and accepting a brainwashed impulse left over from the worse of the racists and their impact on trying to brand and separate people by race. It's archaic thinking. Is Blake Griffin Black? Yes, if he says so. But thinking so automatically to me is a leftover failing for racist branding in my view.

We live in a White wash society. This is fact. The girls do this but no one sees anything wrong with this.

To say "no one sees anything wrong with this" is a huge distortion out of similarly big frustration and anger. I think it's wrong and I'm sure many others do to. But, no matter how wrong the reasons it's still a matter of free choice. There aren't any overseeing legal infrastructures that can make agencies guarantee equal service, and given the type of service I'm not sure you could ever really make a law to guarantee that. It would still be about a woman's body and her rights regarding related choices.

The only reason I would accept this is because it is their bodies and they got the right to not have to get intimate with anyone they do not want but as for their reasons I disagree with it. The driving force behind it is ignorance and in some cases bigotry.

As I said above.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

Doc Holliday

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So give me a fucking break I ain't shedding no tears for the black hobbyist.

Same here. As i pointed out earlier, a girl is free to chose or refuse whomever she wants. After all, slavery was abolished by Lincoln in the 1860's.

On a slightly different note, i was once very close to a black sp. You met her a few times also. She once told me that she wasn't interested in having any black clients. She added that she had zero interest in having any black guy as a boyfriend. I found this strange considering that she was black herself. lol
 

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Gents,



Personally, it makes me cringe and feel sorry that it seems anyone with a bit of African heritage, or any heritage that's related to that background to any degree is ever categorized automatically as Black. If that is the label they wish to use that's fine. But looking at it that way automatically feels like people have giving in and accepting a brainwashed impulse left over from the worse of the racists and their impact on trying to brand and separate people by race. It's archaic thinking. Is Blake Griffin Black? Yes, if he says so. But thinking so automatically to me is a leftover failing for racist branding in my view.

This post pretty much summarizes the point I was trying to make in my post.
 

blkone

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I think some people over-react to this sort of thing.

For example... I'm not into Asian women. I don't hate them, I am not racist against Asians but they're simply not my cup of tea. You'd have to pay me to have sex with an Asian woman.

If some woman is totally turned off by black men I'd hate to waste my money on a sub-par experience. This hobby, this business is not like selling Cakes or Coffee... ;)

But, at the end of the day I do not cry myself to sleep over it, who cares?
 

blkone

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According to a recent Economist article in the US with 13% of the population black [males] account for 50% of the muder victims and murder tends to be a segregated field. A young black male is 10 times more likely to be murdered than his white bro.

According to the same FBI data.

White males are 4x more likely to commit rape and also account for 80% of all Pedophilia.

Cherry picking data is cherry picking data.

Blacks do commit more murders in the U.S than Whites but that is irrelevant in relation to a forum about escorts.

White males account for about 90% of all murders of sex-workers. Like many of the serial murderers like our own homegrown Robert Pickton "prostitute killer."

Escorts are much, much more likely to be kidnapped or killed by a white client - that's a fact.

I can sift out a whole bunch of other worthless statistics if you want. Last time I checked my name isn't "black" and I am sure that your name is not "white."
 

freedom3

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one time when she got stolen by guys waiting outside the door.

When I first read this, I was shocked. I very much hope that the word you were looking for was "robbed" rather than "stolen".
 

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Also, not all Black guys have an accent, some you would think are White on the phone... Could be tricky if the guy decides to show up and confront the girl about her blunt "No Black men" rule...

Hi Mocha,

Very well said...I don't have a black accent whatsoever... and definitely don't adhere to the ignorant,uneducated thug stereotype.

I haven't yet seen an Sp (but have been considering it for a while) and it would be it awkward to show up for an appointment and be turned away. I think that being refused at the second...is a concern for black hobbyists.I wouldn't be confrontational about it...I would just respectfully turn around and walk away.

I have no problem with Sp's with a "No Black Guys" policy for whatever reason. Whether it be preference,black friends/boyfriends..Even if her policy is based on racist/prejudiced feelings....I am not offended in the least.

I wish more girls would be more specific in their limitations/restrictions when it comes to race & ethnicity....I appreciate the ads where the girls explicitly write "No Black Guys" or "I see all races". It makes things very clear and to the point.
 

gurgeh85

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This makes the case for a third-party verification site on the US model. It doesn't matter who you are, it only matters how many women will be willing to give you a reference. It would mean no more jumping through hoops (at least, after the first two or three hoops that you were forced to jump through in the beginning. No getting around that...) Do that and you have plenty of references & if you treat the ladies well, you can see whoever you want. I still see the "No black guys!" thing on backpage, but if you're verified through a site, your chances of having to deal with that shit are slim or none...
 

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I have not seen anything "official" regarding this in some time, but I do recall reading a report that in Toronto, the rate of HIV is much higher in straight black men, than in white straight men. If I was girl, it would be hard to dismiss this I think.
 

speed87

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I think some people over-react to this sort of thing.

For example... I'm not into Asian women. I don't hate them, I am not racist against Asians but they're simply not my cup of tea. You'd have to pay me to have sex with an Asian woman.

If some woman is totally turned off by black men I'd hate to waste my money on a sub-par experience. This hobby, this business is not like selling Cakes or Coffee... ;)

But, at the end of the day I do not cry myself to sleep over it, who cares?


OK seriously you guys need to stop with that excuse! SPs have SEX FOR MONEY and not because they are physically attracted to their clients! They have sex with any guys that are willing to pay them. Do you really think that a girl hot enough to date a guy like Cristiano Ronaldo is seriously attracted to a 300 pounds sweaty bald guy? or a bony 80 years old man?? They are not attracted to 99% of their clients. Stop thinking that you are special. It's our job to make you feel special and tell you everything you want to hear,but I'm pretty sure you know she tells the same thing to every clients.

When a woman who is willing to fuck anybody for money is saying no to black people, you can be certain that it has nothing to do with looks.


TLDR: SPs are not physically attracted to any of us. They are not looking for a serious relationship. They just want money and be treated with respect.
 

BookerL

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OK seriously you guys need to stop with that excuse! SPs have SEX FOR MONEY and not because they are physically attracted to their clients! They have sex with any guys that are willing to pay them. Do you really think that a girl hot enough to date a guy like Cristiano Ronaldo is seriously attracted to a 300 pounds sweaty bald guy? or a bony 80 years old man??.
Its all about fantasy and phantasm ,however attraction is not only physical ,In my 20 years career in this business I did see some of my girls falling in love with my clients or at minimum date them of the clock .
Not all clients are 300lbs or bald or 80 years old .
Their is good looking guys seeing escorts

They are not attracted to 99% of their clients. Stop thinking that you are special. It's our job to make you feel special and tell you everything you want to hear,but I'm pretty sure you know she tells the same thing to every clients.

When a woman who is willing to fuck anybody for money is saying no to black people, you can be certain that it has nothing to do with looks.


TLDR: SPs are not physically attracted to any of us. They are not looking for a serious relationship. They just want money and be treated with respect.
I also had girls that only dated black guys in their real life but excluded them as a SP,they do have the right to refuse any clients ,after all its their bodies .
And if a client is looking for a serious relationship ,the escort world might not be the right place .



Cheers




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wasisname

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Its all about fantasy and phantasm ,however attraction is not only physical ,In my 20 years career in this business I did see some of my girls falling in love with my clients or at minimum date them of the clock .
Not all clients are 300lbs or bald or 80 years old .
Their is good looking guys seeing escorts

That in no way invalidates speed's point.

Unless an escort has rules up saying she will only see people of a certain attractiveness level or stating a wide level of conditions [tight age range, body fat levels, complexion etc] odds are she is doing some pretty oogly dudes. You would have to be insanely racist to be in the business of having sex with a 90 year old one day or week and a 400 pound dude the next but to draw the line at black strictly on the basis of looks vs risk assesment or perhaps some marketing strategy.

I never really cared enough to think about it but yeah the looks arguement doesn't have a leg to stand on. Perhaps I never thought of it because I figured the risk assesment factor was so obvious that my eyes just glazed over at the looks arguement.

I think it is a sad state of affairs when someone has to claim something like looks as opposed to risk to not see clients of a certain culture [which is what we are really talking about here, race being a marker for culture], just to avoid coming across as a racist.

Different groups are more inclined to certain behaviors than others. To insist that people ignore this on the basis of political correctness is a bit of a dick move. The arguement that well everyone group has bad apples doesn't change the fact that you are playing with odds and you can stack your deck by avoiding certain groups. To insist otherwise is like claiming women should not use those date rape drug detectors because men shouldn't rape. In effect holding women down for their rapist because of an ideology. It is sick.

The 80/20 rule, its a thing.

Oh and for those people who think that all races and cultures are identical and act in the exact same way,
The New York City government disagrees with you.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/pr2008/pr039-08.shtml


The new study suggests that genital herpes is more common in New York City than nationally (26% of adults versus 19%). Among New Yorkers, the rate is higher among women than men (36% versus 19%), higher among blacks than whites (49% versus 14%), and higher among men who have sex with men than those who don’t (32% versus 18%). This is the first measurement of New York City’s infection rate, but the national rate has declined in recent years.

You know that STD that condoms are only partially effective against. If the politcally correct crowd was correct there would be no difference either racially or geographically.


I have no problems being friends with people of different races, I judge them on the basis of indivduals because I have the luxury of doing so in normal social intercourse.
I'd date a black and not just because I am hard up. However if I were a female escort I'd strongly consider a no blacks and no certain other groups policy unless I had some serious on site secruity who I can get on site in seconds at the push of a button, but according to the government such a set up would be exploitave. Or unless I was the daughter of Chuck Norris or related to James.
 

BookerL

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That in no way invalidates speed's point.
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Well I am very happy to read your approval because I did want to invalidate speeds point of view .
With all girls that I had even if they said they where black restricted for whatever reason ,and where sent on a call where the client was black and nice some of girls decided to service him anyways it was always difficult to determine ,the girls understood that ,the strick rule was more the black guys "Gansta "style
A client perspective and a Booker perspective are different because we multiply the experience by a big factor ,its also more complicated to book 35 then one .

But every reader can exercise is own judgment !



Cheers



Booker
 

kirkjonas

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I actually asked a couple SPs who gave a couple reasons why they do not see us black clients. One provider basically said he boyfriend (more likely meant pimp) was black and he didn't want her possible hobbying with people he may know. Her rule was it was fine to provide everything but the actually act of you know what. Another provider stated she had had a bad past experience and that was why she decided that new policy but was happy to refer me to one of her friends.

Like BookerL I 100% agree every provider has every right to do and see whom she chooses, but at the same time there is a level of ignorance at least from the outside that does bother me. It's profiling plain and simple, much like speed's eloquent reasoning argues.
 
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