Techman: If you remember, they did the same thing 2,3 years ago (threatning that the GP would not take place in Mtl)....then they got the financial incentives they wanted. So I believe this time is same thing: this is some sort of pressure to get renewed and increased financial incentives.
Bad news for Montreal - 2009 Grand Prix is off the schedule!
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I think this time, it's for real & its not about blackmailing the Mtl authorities into giving in to their demands. I think it has more to do with the cancellation of the US Grand Prix than road conditions at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve or money. The US GP still was being held 2-3 years ago when the Canadian GP had been initially taken off the schedule.montreal_monk01 said:
Weren’t you the cowboy in the Village People float.Doc Holliday said:Uh, they do have a gay pride parade in Mtl! I'm surprised YOU of all people didn't know about this.
beautydigger said:Weren’t you the cowboy in the Village People float.
See? I knew that you were there!!
Y-M-C-A!!! It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A!!!
Money does seem to be issue, but no one said anything about track quality. Problems with the track surface were a major talking point when I watched the race this year on TV.
Not surprised to see two Gulf races on the calendar now. They are in the middle of a huge boom because of oil prices and striving to convert their region into a hub for all sorts of sporting events. Its a pity though, because last time I watched the Bahrain GP the stands were empty.
Not surprised to see two Gulf races on the calendar now. They are in the middle of a huge boom because of oil prices and striving to convert their region into a hub for all sorts of sporting events. Its a pity though, because last time I watched the Bahrain GP the stands were empty.
Doc Holliday said:
But there was no US GP last year and they still came to Canada. Seeing as the Canadian GP ( yes, I stand corrected...it isn't the Montreal GP
) is the only North American venue it was considered to be quite important for the constructers to have a NA venue to advertise their product, especially Honda and Toyota. rollingstone, even with empty grandstands in Bahrain the FIA still probably makes more money there because of the insane amount of money they are charging to put on the event in the first place.
Techman
Hopefully its not official and its just a pressure tactic in getting the city to
fix up the track some more.
fix up the track some more.
master bates,
The Turkish GP has replaced the Canadian GP on the F1 schedule. I don't see how there is any going back. The Eurodudes who used to come to Montreal with $10,000 cash to spend that weekend have already booked their hotels in Turkey. There is no looking back- the train has left the station. F1 will piss a lot people off if they say "well we said it was going to be in Turkey but we changed our minds."
I feel badly for Capt. Renault and others who planned an annual pilgrimmage to Montreal for the Canadian GP. F1 has violently pulled the rug out from underneath them.
If the track is the issue as suggested by other posters, why was it not fixed, and is it the only suitable track for F1 racing in all of Canada?
The Turkish GP has replaced the Canadian GP on the F1 schedule. I don't see how there is any going back. The Eurodudes who used to come to Montreal with $10,000 cash to spend that weekend have already booked their hotels in Turkey. There is no looking back- the train has left the station. F1 will piss a lot people off if they say "well we said it was going to be in Turkey but we changed our minds."
I feel badly for Capt. Renault and others who planned an annual pilgrimmage to Montreal for the Canadian GP. F1 has violently pulled the rug out from underneath them.
If the track is the issue as suggested by other posters, why was it not fixed, and is it the only suitable track for F1 racing in all of Canada?
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EB, yes it is the only track suitable for a Grand Prix race in Canada. Montreal also happens to be one of, if not the favorite venue that the drivers and teams come to every year. They love the atmosphere of the city and it's much more practical for the European fans to come to as opposed to somewhere on the west coast for example.
The broadcast of the Canadian Grand Prix also ranks as one of the top worldwide sports broadcasts of the year, surpassed only by the Superbowl and Soccer championships. Considering the exposure it gets, it's even more of a surprise that it is cancelled.
But there is a demand from FIA that F1 get expenses down 50% by 2010 and this may seem like an easy way for the teams to save some costs and as there is no US GP next year, coming to NA for just one race is an expense that might be hard to justify. But the US race is expected to come back in the future and when that happens, the Canadian GP just might come back with it. Especially since F1 is not that popular in the US.
Techman
The broadcast of the Canadian Grand Prix also ranks as one of the top worldwide sports broadcasts of the year, surpassed only by the Superbowl and Soccer championships. Considering the exposure it gets, it's even more of a surprise that it is cancelled.
But there is a demand from FIA that F1 get expenses down 50% by 2010 and this may seem like an easy way for the teams to save some costs and as there is no US GP next year, coming to NA for just one race is an expense that might be hard to justify. But the US race is expected to come back in the future and when that happens, the Canadian GP just might come back with it. Especially since F1 is not that popular in the US.
Techman
I always thought the US GP was a joke..I actually went to the Phoenix races in the early 90's where a young Jean Alesi in a Tyrell almost held off Ayrton Senna in a McLaren , because there was nowhere to pass on a street circuit..Voila..Alesi immediately gets gobbled up by Ferrari as their newboy for the coming years ( Not )...
Montreal was always an oasis for me..a great city, great vibe..easy drive from the Big Apple..
A fantastic weekend...I feel bad for the F1 fans..a true letdown
Look on the brightside...ladies should be available all weekend !!! No traffic jams !!
I hope this situation will correct itself in both Montreal , and the future site of the US GP...
Knowing how these clowns fuck this up in the US..it will probably end up in hickland Talladega !!
Best Regards
Smuler
Montreal was always an oasis for me..a great city, great vibe..easy drive from the Big Apple..
A fantastic weekend...I feel bad for the F1 fans..a true letdown
Look on the brightside...ladies should be available all weekend !!! No traffic jams !!
I hope this situation will correct itself in both Montreal , and the future site of the US GP...
Knowing how these clowns fuck this up in the US..it will probably end up in hickland Talladega !!
Best Regards
Smuler
I couldn't think of a better place for the next US GP race than Watkins Glen. It was the host of a number of US Grand Prix in the past and is close enough to Montreal to reduce travelling expenses for the teams. I don't know if the facilities are up to F-1 standards but I could imagine European tourists who come here for the race extending their stay in Montreal and then travelling to the glen to catch a second race before returning home.
I would even consider going down to catch the race myself.
http://www.theglen.com/
It's nice to dream.
Techman
I would even consider going down to catch the race myself.
http://www.theglen.com/
It's nice to dream.
Techman
smuler said:
Thats how Im looking at it.
I always seemed to end up travelling through Montreal on the Monday or Tuesday after the Grand prix!!!
No girls available or extremely burned out!
I say YAY!
Hi Techman..
The Glen would be great, as I have gone to an IMSA race there in the past...
But for any F1 venue to succeed, you must have 1 thing- lodging infrastructure..
Montreal has it..the Glen does not...that's why you only have minor races there..nothing major. I know they have " Bud at the Glen "..but you must have to drive very far to get there, and I know that there is really knowwhere to go partying in downtown WG...most people buy the " camping package " which allows you to bring your car, set up a tent..Blah Blah.
But , they have a lock-down period..if you leave with your car, and they shut the gates...you are screwed until the morning.
Because of the lodging predicament, that's why the US race was based out of Indy...they already had years of hotels set up for Indy car....
Years ago, we were supposed to have the race in downtown NYC, with Philip Morris as the major backer ( 'la Molson )...the anti smoking jerkoffs killed that idea...
We have the hotels, let's bring it on !!
I do agree that Bernie is probably jerking Canada's chain, forcing Montreal to make track improvements ( like repaving the hairpin which falls apart every year the night before the race )
Best Regards
Smuler
The Glen would be great, as I have gone to an IMSA race there in the past...
But for any F1 venue to succeed, you must have 1 thing- lodging infrastructure..
Montreal has it..the Glen does not...that's why you only have minor races there..nothing major. I know they have " Bud at the Glen "..but you must have to drive very far to get there, and I know that there is really knowwhere to go partying in downtown WG...most people buy the " camping package " which allows you to bring your car, set up a tent..Blah Blah.
But , they have a lock-down period..if you leave with your car, and they shut the gates...you are screwed until the morning.
Because of the lodging predicament, that's why the US race was based out of Indy...they already had years of hotels set up for Indy car....
Years ago, we were supposed to have the race in downtown NYC, with Philip Morris as the major backer ( 'la Molson )...the anti smoking jerkoffs killed that idea...
We have the hotels, let's bring it on !!
I do agree that Bernie is probably jerking Canada's chain, forcing Montreal to make track improvements ( like repaving the hairpin which falls apart every year the night before the race )
Best Regards
Smuler
Its not a question of track improvement.The promotor is not interested in paying more money and wont ask for help from Quebec and Ottawa Its a business decision by Mr legault the promotor The grand prix might come back if the canadian or quebec govt. want to take charge of the organisation.
If local merchants would have wanted to make even more revenue, they would have protested a lot more when the Expos left town. A downtown open-air stadium to house the Expos would have done wonders to the local economy. But these folks didn't care back then. They were making tons of money with tourism & they had the GP & all the summer festivals to attract tourists. I'm saying it again & again: Baseball would have been a huge success during the summer if that downtown stadium would have been built.
Sadly, my instincts tell me there'll be no GP in Mtl come 2009. I feel for those merchants on Crescent street, the strippers, escorts & the pimps. But as a tourist & a john who no longer gives a damn about F1 racing, it's the best damn thing that could happen for someone who enjoys going to Mtl in mid-June.
Sadly, my instincts tell me there'll be no GP in Mtl come 2009. I feel for those merchants on Crescent street, the strippers, escorts & the pimps. But as a tourist & a john who no longer gives a damn about F1 racing, it's the best damn thing that could happen for someone who enjoys going to Mtl in mid-June.
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Ben Dover said:
Oh my, isn’t it just dreadful. All that pollution causing global warming. And the noise, I can’t hear my cell phone. Maybe Montreal could have the first hybrid race. Wouldn’t that be nifty?Doc Holliday said:We should start our own Facebook club.
Canadian grand prix will be back in 2010 and if we are lucky we might have one next year I dont care to much for the race but grand prix week end is something special for a lot of resident .
According to radio-canada Bmw,Toyota and Honda are asking for 3 races in North America Montreal and 2 in the U.S.
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