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Doc Holliday

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Come on, Doc. This is not so. The Tea Party are people who are afraid that the US is headed towards financial ruin. That's what motivates them.

If so, where were they when Bush & company drove the economy to the ground?

Fox News Poll: 79% Say U.S. Economy Could Collapse

LOL!!!!!!!! Now, that's an unbiased poll !!! Fox News??? C'mon man....you're more intelligent than that !! LOL!!!
 

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You should be ashamed of yourself for making a blanket statement like that.

You're entitled to your opinion. So am I. It's my opinion that the only difference between the KKK & the Tea Party is that the KKK aren't as ignorant & have slightly more education. And one more thing....the KKK aren't all Republicans.

p.s. I'm not defending the KKK, by the way. I hate them as much as i hate the Tea Party scumbags.
 
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Doc, you're pushing it a bit. I don't mind if you're using an image to make a point but this time... Maybe that last post would look better if you made it vanish...

Why? Are you Tea Party member?

p.s. I'll edit it.
 
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If so, where were they when Bush & company drove the economy to the ground

The Democrats can take some credit for the Housing Bust, if not most of it. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac, sound familiar? Or do you want the entire story? Everything bad is because George Bush lived, right?


LOL!!!!!!!! Now, that's an unbiased poll !!! Fox News??? C'mon man....you're more intelligent than that !! LOL!!!

It's a poll. And yeah, Fox is much more even handed than CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, etc. They have both liberal and conservative commentators.
 

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Name three.

I can name 4 that are on Fox often and there are probably a couple more:

Alan Colmes
Juan Williams
Bob Beckel
Geraldine Ferraro

Colmes has his own syndicated television show on Fox.
Williams has a Sunday morning Public affairs program on Fox.
Beckel is often on Hannity and O'Reilly as a panelist.
Ferraro who was the first woman candidate for US Vice President is also often on panels on both shows.
 

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Sorry CS, I was multitasking again when I read Rumples post. I just wanted to go on record as opposing the health care bill. You see, I am a rare breed. I work in the private sector and I pay hefty taxes already. Yes, you guessed it, I'm the slob that pays everyone else's way. It sounds like I'm going to have to work harder because the democrats are spending more of my money on another entitlement program that will never go away and most probably turn into a boondoggle ripe with fraud and waste. I don't know whats next from the Democratic Party but I have a suggestion. With a brand new entitlement plan in the wings, now would be a bad time to try to save the ice cap and the polar bears with Al Gore's cap and tax.

Enjoy your high spirited debate guys, I have to get back to work.

hungry, you're not thinking about this in the way they are. You have to shift your thinking. They (meaning the socialists) are bringing more and more of our lives under government control with the assistance of big business. Nice game, if you're at or near the top. But for those of us who pay the bill, it's a bit of a problem. The idea here is to get yourself out from under the control and taxes. Look for methods of tax and control avoidance and learn to work the system. View working the system as playing a game, not whether it's right or you need the benefits. Just take what you can.
 

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Alan Colmes
Juan Williams
Bob Beckel
Geraldine Ferraro
Doc, These pathetic few take money from Fox so that they can come on Hannity's and O'Lielly's shows, say a few words and then get shouted down. And so that the likes of Daydreamer can say that Fox has liberals. And, for the record, Colmes does not have a show on Fox TV, but on Fox radio. I would imagine that it's on between 2-3 in the morning, but I don't know for sure.
 

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Very True

hungry, you're not thinking about this in the way they are. You have to shift your thinking. They (meaning the socialists) are bringing more and more of our lives under government control with the assistance of big business. Nice game, if you're at or near the top. But for those of us who pay the bill, it's a bit of a problem. The idea here is to get yourself out from under the control and taxes. Look for methods of tax and control avoidance and learn to work the system. View working the system as playing a game, not whether it's right or you need the benefits. Just take what you can.

Very true.

Add.Retain the ability to control what you have to give while becoming a pebble in the shoe whenever you can.
 

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Colmes has his own syndicated television show on Fox.

I knew you'd name alan colmes. The treat him like shit on that network. I've read that he also serves as a janitor, which is hard to believe, but then again, considering who runs the network, maybe i shouldn't find it that hard to believe. The others i've never heard about other than Geraldine Ferraro (she's still alive?). I guess it's my fault since i no longer subscribe to that propaganda channel also known as 'Fox Noise'.

My guess is that they're all a bunch of lightweights who have a job on other people's shows simply for the network to claim they're a 'fair and balanced' network. I've actually listened to alan colmes' show on the radio in the wee hours of the morning. He's alone on his show & isn't that bad when he's alone. Even though a lightweight, i give him full marks for putting up with that fucking asshole Sean Hannity on a regular basis. The weakling should be given a medal just for that alone.
 
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Fox's polls are very selective. The questions that they ask are extremely vague, and they are, by-in-large self-fulfilling in that they feed their audience the viewpoint they want non-stop prime time, then poll them. It is Pavlovian at that point. And/or they choose which polls to highlight (usually the highly questionable Rassmussan), support there findings and so the spin continues. I'm not saying that the liberal media (MSNBC/CNN) does not do the same, because they do, but that is indeed the case, and everybody knows it.

And as for the liberal balanced viewpoints on Fox, yes they do have token liberals on the network, but they are there as props. We are talking about the majority and most popular of the talking heads on the network, and again, it is no secret to anyone that from Murdoch down, the network is 95% RNC viewpoints, hardly balanced.

Back on the topic of BO, here is a good viewpoint article from today's NYT...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/business/24leonhardt.html
 

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The HHR Secretary for the Obama Administration has said on Larry King Live that American People should start to see some reductions in their healthcare premiums in the next few years. My company belongs to a PEO (Perfessional Employer Organization) who handles payroll, withholding, workman's comp, health insurance, etc..etc.. for over 190 small & medium sized companies. They buy health insurance on a collective basis for all the companies in the organization. So, I thought I would revisit this thread next year and specifically report whether this organization had managed to secure a reduction in premiums, as promissed by the Obama Administration. I think that a sampling of 190 companies whose businsess are wide and varied should produce a good sampling of the promised reductions. As an employer, I look forward to increased profits from spending less on health insurance for my employees.
 

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All Liberals are lightweights

I knew you'd name alan colmes. The treat him like shit on that network. I've read that he also serves as a janitor, which is hard to believe, but then again, considering who runs the network, maybe i shouldn't find it that hard to believe. The others i've never heard about other than Geraldine Ferraro (she's still alive?). I guess it's my fault since i no longer subscribe to that propaganda channel also known as 'Fox Noise'.

My guess is that they're all a bunch of lightweights who have a job on other people's shows simply for the network to claim they're a 'fair and balanced' network. I've actually listened to alan colmes' show on the radio in the wee hours of the morning. He's alone on his show & isn't that bad when he's alone. Even though a lightweight, i give him full marks for putting up with that fucking asshole Sean Hannity on a regular basis. The weakling should be given a medal just for that alone.

Juan Williams is on NPR, which is as liberal as you can get. So is he.

Alan Colmes has his own show (I thought on TV, is there a FOX radio?, I never heard or seen him on his own other than with Hannity), so how is he being used as a lackee for Conservatives?

And for the Liberal Networks? They are all Left, all the time. Like MS-NBC with Chris Matthews who orgaisms when hearing Barack Obama.

There's one somewhat Conservative network station and you liberals scream foul. What do you want?

And by the way Fox's ratings beats the rest of the Liberal outlets.
 
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I knew you'd name alan colmes. The treat him like shit on that network. I've read that he also serves as a janitor, which is hard to believe, but then again, considering who runs the network, maybe i shouldn't find it that hard to believe. The others i've never heard about other than Geraldine Ferraro (she's still alive?). I guess it's my fault since i no longer subscribe to that propaganda channel also known as 'Fox Noise'.

My guess is that they're all a bunch of lightweights who have a job on other people's shows simply for the network to claim they're a 'fair and balanced' network. I've actually listened to alan colmes' show on the radio in the wee hours of the morning. He's alone on his show & isn't that bad when he's alone. Even though a lightweight, i give him full marks for putting up with that fucking asshole Sean Hannity on a regular basis. The weakling should be given a medal just for that alone.
Colmes used to have a show with Hannity - Hannity and Colmes. Colmes got more than his fair share of airtime. Fox also has moderates like Greta Van Susteran. MSNBC and all the liberal rags don't have any conservative commentators.
 

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You're entitled to your opinion. So am I. It's my opinion that the only difference between the KKK & the Tea Party is that the KKK aren't as ignorant & have slightly more education. And one more thing....the KKK aren't all Republicans.

p.s. I'm not defending the KKK, by the way. I hate them as much as i hate the Tea Party scumbags.

The difference is my opinion is realistic and yours is ignorant. I met a few Tea Party members when I was down in the US and they were hard working decent individuals. How many have you met?
 

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Colmes used to have a show with Hannity - Hannity and Colmes. Colmes got more than his fair share of airtime. Fox also has moderates like Greta Van Susteran. MSNBC and all the liberal rags don't have any conservative commentators.
Calling Greta van Susteren a moderate is like calling me a moderate. MSNBC does give four hours in the morning to Joe Scarborough, a conservative former congressman from the panhandle of Florida.

Anybody, by the way, who calls NPR liberal clearly hasn't been paying attention.
 

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they were hard working decent individuals.
Hard working decent people who walk around with signs with swastikas and paint over pictures of the President's face with African medicine man masks. Doc is right on here. While the Tea Party movement is very heavy with racists, I'd probably stop short of comparing them with the KKK. Yes, they're racist. Yes, they're extremely stupid. But they haven't yet shown themselves to be murderers.
 

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Greta, like many (oh, OK I'll say most) of the Foxmouths are good employees doing their job to make money. She had quite a different viewpoint when with CNN. The issue is not really with the people (although for some it does fall very close to the same moral standpoint lately as say... a crack dealer), it is with the perverse direction that they are mandated and employed to express. I would venture a guess to say that it is Murdoch who is bastardizing the lowest hanging fruit to a now dangerous point.

I do not think that even a staunch liberal would ever have the same vomit-in-the mouth reaction to respectful and valid conservative viewpoint... unfortunately that is not what Fox is selling to it's audience. They prefer to exploit the fears of the uninformed, lower IQ, or desperate populous for profit (present company not included in that statement), and it is morally despicable, and very hypocritical for those that claim cling to the words" We the people". Your constitution does not say "I the person", nor "Some of us people".

As for the Tea Party, I'm sure there are normal protesters. But that's not really what is going on now is it? There is something VERY wrong with Fox inciting and organizing protest rallies to perpetuate their viewpoint, one that has let in some very serious racist and violent undertones.

The RNC, like the snake eating its own tail, has been ravished to the point where it is no longer about conservative values, it is about religion, fear, talking points and shock values... all for their own personal monetary gain. I hate to inject my personal viewpoint, but in the last 10yrs (starting with going after Slick Bill for a blowjob), I've never seen such a spineless, morally deprived and cowardly group of profiteers. Again there are some who are not, but they are being quashed.

It is a very unfortunate situation, regardless of political affiliation. As illustrated by this evenings news of reported violence, there are going to be many innocent people getting hurt.

And it is not because Obama pushed to do something about health care, this frankenstein is and was created entirely from the Rove like-minded 10yrs ago, and it will take some real conservative with a big set of balls to put it back in the lab. I really hope for the sake of the country and the rest of the world for that matter, that such a person exists, it is getting really silly, and really ugly.
 
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