Best pick up clubs or places in Montreal

[Carmine Falcone]

I concur that higher cost often signifies superior quality. However, certain agencies such as Vog consistently bring in the best female service providers on a daily basis. Frankly, I don't mean to offend you in any way, Shantie. Personally, I find it easier to make a booking with a agency compared to doing it with a Indy . As someone who prefers to book service providers on impulse, Indy's scheduling system poses a challenge as I am uncertain of my availability and the booking process typically requires 2-3 days in advance. I am not a patient person. However, that is solely my opinion. I am aware of numerous individuals who have a preference for independent service providers over agencies. Every person has their own choices and justifications for them.

Not to derail thread, but as someone who sees agency and indies when I'm in Montreal, your assessment is 100% spot on. Any successful indy appointment equals several prior emails at least a few weeks out. And it works for me because I have to maximize my time as a visitor. If I were a local with a sudden hankering for tiddies in ma mouf, it's hard to beat the convenience of the agencies.

Thanks for your recommendations in the thread. Definitely good info for trying different things in the city when I head there in a few weeks.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I'm in my early 30s and my closest friends have either settled down or done with night life. I also completely stopped drinking and do not enjoy dancing till 3am anymore. Tbh, even when we went out together we were always just staying with each other, so never got any one night stands. And now since nobody would go out with me, I feel like going out by myself wouldn't help me get laid either. Any suggestions on that? Also are there places to pick up girls in their 20s at around 12:00 or ealier?

If you're looking to hook up or go on dates, I have some valuable advice to offer that I believe will be most beneficial. Engaging an escort is a more cost-effective alternative to seeking out a chance sexual encounter or going on a date. Frequenting nightclubs in search of a sexual partner typically requires a significant investment in beverage expenses, which can easily surpass $250 and may not lead to the desired outcome. In the present day, the younger generation of women no longer stick to traditional vodka cranberry drinks. Instead, they prefer more sophisticated options like XO or champagne. They are not hesitant to indulge in pricey beverages and do not feel guilty about making someone else pay for a bottle or expensive drinks. If you decide to go out on a date, be prepared to shell out more than $500, without even the guarantee of any intimacy, which can come along with its own set of problems.As a final touch, you engage in the act of self-pleasure before the night comes to a close Consider this scenario: instead of spending the same amount of money, or even more, on traditional activities such as clubbing or going on a date, you could opt for the guarantee of satisfaction with two stunning bombshell from Vog agency. Through a service provider agency, you have the opportunity to engage in sexual activity with the escort of your choice while paying a comparable price. After comprehending the logic of the situation, I started saving additional funds. My inference is that opting for an escort service provider who guarantees sexual activity is a more cost-effective approach than going clubbing or going on a date solely for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity. Indeed, it is true.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Not to derail thread, but as someone who sees agency and indies when I'm in Montreal, your assessment is 100% spot on. Any successful indy appointment equals several prior emails at least a few weeks out. And it works for me because I have to maximize my time as a visitor. If I were a local with a sudden hankering for tiddies in ma mouf, it's hard to beat the convenience of the agencies.

Thanks for your recommendations in the thread. Definitely good info for trying different things in the city when I head there in a few weeks.

I appreciate your thoughtful remarks and would be happy to offer assistance in navigating Montreal's nightlife. Please feel free to send me a private message, and I will provide my best advice.

 

[Guido Vendetta]

Most of these are restaurants? I'm probably on the younger side for this forum at 30, but this question is very age dependent. If you are a 20 something dude, just go to cafe campus if you are looking to pick up chicks. I wouldn't really know what to do if you were 40+

Go to Cafe Campus... maturity is sexy...

 

[Jordd]

If you're looking to hook up or go on dates, I have some valuable advice to offer that I believe will be most beneficial. Engaging an escort is a more cost-effective alternative to seeking out a chance sexual encounter or going on a date. Frequenting nightclubs in search of a sexual partner typically requires a significant investment in beverage expenses, which can easily surpass $250 and may not lead to the desired outcome. In the present day, the younger generation of women no longer stick to traditional vodka cranberry drinks. Instead, they prefer more sophisticated options like XO or champagne. They are not hesitant to indulge in pricey beverages and do not feel guilty about making someone else pay for a bottle or expensive drinks. If you decide to go out on a date, be prepared to shell out more than $500, without even the guarantee of any intimacy, which can come along with its own set of problems.As a final touch, you engage in the act of self-pleasure before the night comes to a close Consider this scenario: instead of spending the same amount of money, or even more, on traditional activities such as clubbing or going on a date, you could opt for the guarantee of satisfaction with two stunning bombshell from Vog agency. Through a service provider agency, you have the opportunity to engage in sexual activity with the escort of your choice while paying a comparable price. After comprehending the logic of the situation, I started saving additional funds. My inference is that opting for an escort service provider who guarantees sexual activity is a more cost-effective approach than going clubbing or going on a date solely for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity. Indeed, it is true.

And less hassle after.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Quite an excellent analysis.

This thread has the usual low self-esteem posts that always occur when this topic get brought up.

It always disturbs me when that occurs and I think it is useful to mention online dating and the disinterest in marriage among many females.

The world isn’t like the old 1970s and 1980s model in which women interested in a long-term relationship or marriage frequented clubs on a regular basis. They didn’t have the fucking internet then, they needed money since women typically earned far less than men, and both single hood and bisexuality were severely frowned upon.

Most of the women at clubs are now juggling multiple relationships that began online, and she is likely at the club with friends also juggling multiple relationships that began online. At some point in time, several of the ladies in the group have has sex with each other. Almost all women in that group are self-sustaining, or in a relationship that already provides them a reasonable level of financial support.

Approach one of them in a cold-call situation, and you are an Object of Amusement facing a large barrier to success. You are perhaps a relic who does‘t know how to go online. But you are a somewhat welcome Object of Amusement. Something for the group of girls to talk about later while giggling. If buying drinks, you are certainly expected to buy her the most expensive drink. She needs to find out if you are both rich and generous. Unlike online / smartphone interaction, you need to be highly skilled in conversation with no ability to think through answers.

It isn’t exactly a recipe for success, given the barriers. For sex, certainly get an escort. If you want more human interaction, buy a longer session and do something outside the hotel room. For experienced escorts and seeking arrangement ladies, they are highly skilled at meeting new people every day and putting the customer at ease and making sure he has a good time.

The pick-up, singles club, hook-up culture is dead. The internet / smartphone damaged it, and the higher economic / social class structure of women fully killed it off. Sure, just like Old Town, a few of the most highly-skilled guys still pull it off due to the nostalgia a few women still have for the past, but that is a very small percentage of guys who spend a lot of time and money perfecting an ancient craft. For everyone else, forget about it.

Um you know people are still hooking up, right? In between (young) women constantly dodging dick like Neo dodging bullets in The Matrix, and women being more financially independent, yes the impulse to settle down for women is not as pressing. And the constant male attention allows women to be picky. But that dynamic doesn't last forever. Just heard this female comedian joke about how it hurt to NOT get catcalled when walking past a construction site. But that doesn't mean change the fact that people are still coupling at all age groups.

But women like sex too. That's why they are still hooking up with men. Nothing wrong with seeing an SP. As a matter of fact, not being sexually pent-up blunts any desperation you might have when trying to score sex with your personality. But no guts = no glory. Unless you're Brad Pitt or George Clooney, men know rejection. Yeah it's not pleasant but it's not the end of the world. You can't win if you don't play. If you set reasonable expectations i.e. target age-appropriate women, some work may be involved but if you bring something to the table, you have a chance. And know that if you strike out, there's always Vogue or Euphoria.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Just never been the way I have chosen to look at it, especially as the world, and particularly the workplace, has changed over the years. Implicit in your post, especially toward the end, is the assumption that seeing a sex worker is somehow inferior to scoring from a hook up, apparently even if scoring with a hook-up involves an older, relatively less attractive lady. But of course to each his own.

If I felt that seeing a sex worker was inferior to meeting a woman organically, I wouldn't be on this board or have spent all the money I've spent on SPs. I very much like the lack of pretense with SPs. It's a mutually beneficial relationship for both parties. That said, the challenge of trying to bed a woman with your own intangibles is also an interesting game, depending on how patient you are and how much you desire your love/sex interest.

The part about age-appropriateness is crucial. It wasn't to suggest "undesirable." Unless you're Al Pacino--who is 83 and apparently impregnated a 29 year old who has a thing for very old famous men--or Leonardo DiCaprio or incredibly rich, most men still in the dating pool are going to primarily have access to women near their age.

Just because this way of life might skew our access to women decades younger than we are doesn't mean that sort of pairing is happening all the time in the regular dating world. That's my takeaway from this thread when people ask about age, asking about the age of the clientele of a given bar/restaurant and not being "a creep."

Some young women have a thing for older guys, but there are definitely many that do not. One young woman whose objection to us being together (10 year gap between us, and we eventually slept together anyway) was that I was too old for her married someone who was 30 years older than her. So much like Al Pacino's newly minted baby mama and my former friend, some of the women into older men are just looking for a payday. I'm gonna guess that when Anna Nicole Smith married that oil tycoon, it wasn't for his ability to fuck like John Holmes.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Hookup culture is definitly not dead. I think its the just the medium that has changed. Apps have made it much easier for the younger generations than ever and unless you're on an app for sugars, being 20+ years older isn't going to play in your favor. Are there girls that enjoy older men? sure... is it a majority? no. If you're older, not photogenic, not really socially active or generally unable to stand out you're going to find it much harder...as it always has been.

I find meeting girls in bars much easier than it used to be. Its like they aren't used to actual conversation without being bombarded with sexual innuendoes or asked if they want to "smash". If you're a 50+ dude hitting on a 20yo... well, its a bit of a unrealistic venture and quite creepy to most girls to begin with. 30+ women are amazing to meet. Most of them don't give a shit about social media, are are very approachable, confident and will be way more receptive to my dad bod and dad jokes.

I'll rent the 20 year old, I'll invest into the 30+ year old.

If that Netflix show Nailed It was a MERB post, it would be this post.

To add to the whole 30 year old woman thing, when I was in my 30s and a decade and some change after that, I always felt that women in their 30s are the sweet spot. They have still the hotness of their twenties but more maturity and less interested in playing games.

 

[urquell]

Getting SPs is easier, hassle-free and involves no commitments on the part of the guy making the call (beyond an immediate cash commitment) but it's lazy (which is fine ) and for all the people claiming that it's cheaper with all due respect you guys are all nuts. It's just less work. What everybody in this thread seems to be overlooking is that non-sp pickups are not limited to a single instance. You can keep seeing people over and over again (as many different people as you want) at no or little financial cost whatsoever, unlike SPs, who you must pay every single time. The hitch, and of course there's always a hitch, is that you must maintain contact and manage some type of "relationship", which I'm using as a generic term here not necessarily meaning some committed romantic thing. If you are willing to do that, then for a online commitment of however much time per week and some initial getting to know you phases (which may only be online) you can maintain very cheap ongoing sexual relationships. You can also pre-screen who is DTF before you even meet them. The cost is in your time rather than in your wallet. There may also be some cultural and/or language issues depending on where you travel. I have maintained as many as a dozen such relationships at a time when I was traveling regularly. But to reiterate, cheap comes at a cost (in your time). You also have to be visiting whatever particular area it is that you're visiting with a frequency that makes maintaining this relationship worthwhile, otherwise it's better to simply go get and SP.

 

[Lexus3]

Getting SPs is easier, hassle-free and involves no commitments on the part of the guy making the call (beyond an immediate cash commitment) but it's lazy (which is fine ) and for all the people claiming that it's cheaper with all due respect you guys are all nuts. It's just less work. What everybody in this thread seems to be overlooking is that non-sp pickups are not limited to a single instance. You can keep seeing people over and over again (as many different people as you want) at no or little financial cost whatsoever, unlike SPs, who you must pay every single time. The hitch, and of course there's always a hitch, is that you must maintain contact and manage some type of "relationship", which I'm using as a generic term here not necessarily meaning some committed romantic thing. If you are willing to do that, then for a online commitment of however much time per week and some initial getting to know you phases (which may only be online) you can maintain very cheap ongoing sexual relationships. You can also pre-screen who is DTF before you even meet them. The cost is in your time rather than in your wallet. There may also be some cultural and/or language issues depending on where you travel. I have maintained as many as a dozen such relationships at a time when I was traveling regularly. But to reiterate, cheap comes at a cost (in your time). You also have to be visiting whatever particular area it is that you're visiting with a frequency that makes maintaining this relationship worthwhile, otherwise it's better to simply go get and SP.

Call me lazy, am fine with that . I'll be lazy and take just the sex with Maya, Fiona and Joyce (XO) instead as I did in the past weeks rather than be in pretend relationships that I have to maintain. Three Montreal Asian superstar service providers.
We all have our preferences and I'll choose the easy lazy route.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Getting SPs is easier, hassle-free and involves no commitments on the part of the guy making the call (beyond an immediate cash commitment) but it's lazy (which is fine ) and for all the people claiming that it's cheaper with all due respect you guys are all nuts. It's just less work. What everybody in this thread seems to be overlooking is that non-sp pickups are not limited to a single instance. You can keep seeing people over and over again (as many different people as you want) at no or little financial cost whatsoever, unlike SPs, who you must pay every single time. The hitch, and of course there's always a hitch, is that you must maintain contact and manage some type of "relationship", which I'm using as a generic term here not necessarily meaning some committed romantic thing. If you are willing to do that, then for a online commitment of however much time per week and some initial getting to know you phases (which may only be online) you can maintain very cheap ongoing sexual relationships. You can also pre-screen who is DTF before you even meet them. The cost is in your time rather than in your wallet. There may also be some cultural and/or language issues depending on where you travel. I have maintained as many as a dozen such relationships at a time when I was traveling regularly. But to reiterate, cheap comes at a cost (in your time). You also have to be visiting whatever particular area it is that you're visiting with a frequency that makes maintaining this relationship worthwhile, otherwise it's better to simply go get and SP.

Respectfully speaking my friend , if you were involved with multiple partners simultaneously. I'm curious about the reason for your presence on this forum. Undoubtedly, employing the services of a provider is cheaper than engaging in a date or a one-night stand at a club. If you're intending to meet them at a library, bus stop, or Jean Coutu and take them to a McDonald's, then your theory make sense. In sharp contrast to the 90s era where things were comparatively affordable, prices have skyrocketed currently. I'm interested in knowing how to meet females without incurring any expenses.

 

[Mohit]

Respectfully speaking my friend , if you were involved with multiple partners simultaneously. I'm curious about the reason for your presence on this forum. Undoubtedly, employing the services of a provider is cheaper than engaging in a date or a one-night stand at a club. If you're intending to meet them at a library, bus stop, or Jean Coutu and take them to a McDonald's, then your theory make sense. In sharp contrast to the 90s era where things were comparatively affordable, prices have skyrocketed currently. I'm interested in knowing how to meet females without incurring any expenses.

Hey there …I m here could you help me with the best strip club to visit

 

[urquell]

Respectfully speaking my friend , if you were involved with multiple partners simultaneously. I'm curious about the reason for your presence on this forum. Undoubtedly, employing the services of a provider is cheaper than engaging in a date or a one-night stand at a club. If you're intending to meet them at a library, bus stop, or Jean Coutu and take them to a McDonald's, then your theory make sense. In sharp contrast to the 90s era where things were comparatively affordable, prices have skyrocketed currently. I'm interested in knowing how to meet females without incurring any expenses.

OK, there's a bunch of stuff to unpack here, so I'll try to approach it point by point. You guys seem to have the idea that I'm disrespecting the SP choice, and I'm not, clearly, since I see them myself. There are pluses and minuses. I'm just saying there are alternatives. So here's where I'm at:

1) I mentioned that this applies only if you're traveling regularly and if you're regularly traveling to the same places. You can create sex only relationships online but frankly it's too much work and not worth it for somewhere you're only going to visit once
2) I did not talk about pickups at bars and restaurants and whatever because it's too random and uncertain, and you are correct, expensive, or at least it can be. Again I discussed setting up relationships with people online before going to wherever you're going.
3) I mentioned cultural and language barriers because it's much easier to do outside of the north american space. Girls are much more open to no strings relationships there but are also more hopeful of converting it to something more. You need to be both respectful and honest around that so that you aren't unnecessarily leading someone on or complicating your own life. You can do the same thing in North America but the screening process becomes lengthier
4) It's a numbers game. Be straight up about what you want (dinner, some laughs, straight up sex, whatever) and if you go through enough people you will find people that will agree. Most won't. Some will. Simple as that.
5) As far as costs go, your personal costs can be whatever you want them to be. It's your criteria. Set that criteria and run with it. Your filtering process might change but it's the same numbers game either way. If you want some romance then there will be some cost. If you just want to hang out then it's whatever you want to hang out doing. If it's just straight sex then costs are minimal, maybe limited to normal courteous hosting like providing drinks or whatever. You decide, then find someone who agrees with you. For me I traveled a lot for work and I travel for personal passion. I set up lots of relationships like this, and the travel costs were the expensive part, and my company paid all of those for work related trips (that I often would tack extra days onto). The incidental costs were nothing, relatively speaking, and you can control all of those.
6) Nowadays I don't travel for work and my personal travel is less too (especially during covid) so the investment in time necessary to maintain these relationships costs more to me personally than the reward is worth. I still stay in touch with some people, but it's a very occasional thing. Now I see more people here at home, and my personal life is such that it doesn't make sense for me to pursue these kinds of relationships
7) I've never been exclusive of either SPs or "regular" girls. It has always been a portion of both and has always depended on locale and circumstances. I have been on many boards, in many countries, and in some places it makes sense only to see SPs and in some places a hybrid and in some places just online girls. For example, you could go to the Philippines and beat them off with a stick all day long and never pay a dime (although you likely would, a little anyway) or you could go to Vegas and have it be entirely the opposite.
8) It's always a question of your personal preferences. Some people simply prefer to interact less and can't be bothered with the social stuff, so the SP route is much better. Some people crave the social relationship. There isn't any right or wrong here. Do whatever makes you feel good.
9) The convenience of SPs can't be beat. It's great to be lazy sometimes, and sometimes that's what you really, really want. Git 'er done then settle down with a pizza to watch the game, or whatever. I often feel that way, so that even if you have someone you can see you might prefer to pay to see someone else for that very reason.
10) If you can set up the casual relationships then you don't always have to keep setting them up (although there's always a certain amount of turnover) and those relationships keep paying dividends over and over again. It gets easier and more casual the longer you can keep them going, and yes, it's much, much cheaper than hiring SPs. That doesn't necessarily mean better, because as someone once said, you pay SPs to go away at the end of the evening. There are always some social responsibilities tied to the casual relationships, no matter how casual they are. You don't have that with SPs, and that can be a big advantage at times.

Hope that clarifies things a little.

 

[urquell]

Call me lazy, am fine with that . I'll be lazy and take just the sex with Maya, Fiona and Joyce (XO) instead as I did in the past weeks rather than be in pretend relationships that I have to maintain. Three Montreal Asian superstar service providers.
We all have our preferences and I'll choose the easy lazy route.

More power to you my friend. There are definite advantages to being lazy. Enjoy!

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Hey there …I m here could you help me with the best strip club to visit

Undoubtedly, if I had to choose a strip club, Chez Parée would be my top pick, my friend.

 

[Jericho_2021]

@Obvio-0bvio - Just want to thank you for your suggestions: we (my friend and I) tried and enjoyed New City Gas. You really know the nightlife scene of Montreal.
Question for you: I did not try it yet but I saw a place in the Vieux port called Boa Vida Yacht club (Quai Jacques Quartier). Do you know this place? If you know it, what is your general opinion about it ?

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

@Obvio-0bvio - Just want to thank you for your suggestions: we (my friend and I) tried and enjoyed New City Gas. You really know the nightlife scene of Montreal.
Question for you: I did not try it yet but I saw a place in the Vieux port called Boa Vida Yacht club (Quai Jacques Quartier). Do you know this place? If you know it, what is your general opinion about it ?

I appreciate your kind remarks.Boa Vida Yacht club is highly lively on Sunday’s In the Quai of Montreal . The event is a daytime party. It's highly recommended that you give it a shot. My description of the setting would be a blend of a rooftop daytime party spot and an 5-7 Cathcart party gathering. Anticipate a bustling crowd of glamour individuals on a gorgeous, scorching summer day. It would be highly advisable for you to experience that place during the day.

 

[treesx]

I'd say it takes less than 3 dates to get sex with online dating.
I think I'm probably not unattractive cuz I have women hitting on me a few times a year? But when you were born in eastern Asia in the 80s and raised by tough Asian parents, you are just super self conscious and have low self esteem. Also culturally there is a concept of "not bothering other/not to bring troubles to other". And it bothers me a LOOOOOT when telling someone I'm not intereted. So I'm super scared of being rejected because of self consciousness and low self esteem, and I don't want others feel bothered when rejecting me. I know people don't really give a shit it's only in my head, but I just can't get over it.
Dating app helps because if a girl is not interested all at, then there wont be a match. And that unloads a huge part of the burden I mentioned. And tbh I almost always end up sleeping with the ones I like. But I think it's becoming a problem now. I'm almost swiping on them everyday conpusively because it's almost a habit at this point since I've been on them for so long, and because of the idea of "next one may be a match".
I've had 1 long term relationship and I'm not against the idea of having one. There were a few girls I really liked and was interested in having a long term relationship, but as soon as I show some affection, the girls just ran away.
Friends of friends just never worked for me. I guess my friends' friends arent really my type lol.
Thanks a lot for reading my rant. I really appreciate the support

Hi there what app are you using ? I have them all and have zéro success. Like zéro. I'm Asian too, not bad looking just getting old but dont look my age and in shape. I may need to rewrite my intro or feed it to chatgpt lol

 

[tonylau]

Hi there what app are you using ? I have them all and have zéro success. Like zéro. I'm Asian too, not bad looking just getting old but dont look my age and in shape. I may need to rewrite my intro or feed it to chatgpt lol

all of them. FB dating and Hinge have the highest success rate though. Then Tinder, bumble, OKCupid

 

[tonylau]

Without sounding hurtful, you know that most women in North America aren't attracted by Asians? If you rate yourself a 6-7, they are probably rating you a 2-3 (sorry man). Are there some sure, just probably kinda like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Also, don't know what age group you're looking at, but most girls aren't really looking at guys more than 5-10 years max. Again, are there some? Sure, but think of all the older dudes that might have an advantage over you... that haystack may be much larger than you think.

I don't know about you, but most of my female friends are 35+ and most of them would never waste their time on an app. The few I know of that do, you wouldn't want to meet (unless you enjoy excess baggage). I'll always suggest to go out and do things, mingle without the intention of "picking up" as it will make you look more confident and you have a greater chance of actually "picking up".

Just my 2 cents

What you said is absolutely true for older women(35+). For the younger generation, it's still not great but a lot better due to the influence of Kpop, Japanese Anime, Marvel Shangqi and other random anti racism shit. I'm 33 so I mainly date girls under 30, a few of them are actually really into Asian guys.