All she says is there are ways to inquire about provided services:
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Booking an indy: Tips, tricks, dos and don'ts
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I agree there are many polite ways to find out if what you want will be offered without specifically asking for menu items, then again the ladies that provide this type of information on their web sight may have an advantage in attracting people that want to know beforehand and are either too shy to ask or are not that well versed in being able to beat around the bush politely to obtain the information they want.
I can see both sides of the issue here.
I never ask what is on the menu, I can tell from many things if I will have a nice experience with the lady, there is all kinds of information available on their web sight, their twitter the way they advertise and if they post on Merb just the way they approach things.
I have never had a bad experience with an indépendant SP I have seen.
I believe that discussing the menu details is a crucial matter to address in order to avoid any unpleasant surprises for the client and the service provider after the client have already paid the service provider. Let's consider this scenario: the client is particularly interested in a GFE (Girlfriend Experience), but he’s unaware of what is actually offered on the menu. If the client proceeds to pay the service provider without this knowledge, only to find out later that the service provider does not provide GFE, it would undoubtedly lead to frustration and potential disputes. By openly communicating the menu options beforehand, we can prevent such situations from arising. While it is acceptable to inquire about personal details such as name, phone number, address, ethnicity, age,pet name and occupation, it is equally important to address significant questions to ensure both parties are on the same page and avoid any unnecessary arguments.
I am going to do exactly like what you did and not read your message.
You either didn’t read my initial post or have poor reading comprehension skills.
I never said you shouldn’t ask what one is offering. I said using the word “menu” is tacky and most of us hate it. Feel free to keep using that approach, some people don’t mind.
I instantly comprehended your perspective, perceiving it from a distance. Both of us have effectively conveyed our viewpoints, making our respective points clear. While I have no intention of intruding on your business operations, it is crucial, as a discerning client within this industry, for me to shed light on pertinent matters. At times, seeking clarification can prove invaluable without causing any negative repercussions. By the way, I would like to underscore the exceptional quality of my reading skills, which enable me to stay consistently ahead of the game. I find it rather perplexing why some individuals derive satisfaction from engaging in arguments, especially when I am merely expressing my opinion as a client who values constructive dialogue. I kindly request that you bear in mind the utmost respect with which I consistently respond, as it can be rather disconcerting when you choose to respond by mocking or ridiculing my input.
As shown in the replies of this tweet, everyone likes to be asked about their menu /s
This will be my last tweet on that matter because I don’t want to pollute my own thread and as stated in my initial post. Nothing you will say will make me or my colleagues change our mind ❤️
This will be my last tweet on that matter because I don’t want to pollute my own thread and as stated in my initial post. Nothing you will say will make me or my colleagues change our mind ❤️
Ok gentlemen so from now on take note that there will no longer be any "pussy eating" since it is a "diner" term. "Pussy" may also be banned shortly 
I don't know if it's been mentioned and I don't understand why it needs to be.... But ffs don't send us unsolicited dick pics!
Among other things, you're telling on yourself that you don't understand or care about consent, which guarantees I'm blocking you! Geez.
Among other things, you're telling on yourself that you don't understand or care about consent, which guarantees I'm blocking you! Geez.
That’s a very good point, thank you for bringing it up. Anything that’s unsolicited whether it’s a photo or sexting doesn’t belong in a booking inquiry.
Def not. Respect and common sense go a long way...
Thanks for this. Always good to have some useful advice to make sure we do things the right way to ensure the best experience for everyone involved.
Great thread... At least for a guy who's more salon or agency type. Is it inappropriate to ask for a face pic before sending my ID or pre-deposit ? Thank you
It is inappropriate. We are hiding our faces for many reasons. Sending our faces to every stranger who asks us for a photo defeats the purpose.
Yes it is, we blur our faces for a reason. If you don’t want to send your ID, don’t. Just find a SP that doesn’t require it.
Yeah, it makes sense. Probably similar reasons why I don't want to send my face pic, ID with my name, addresses and so on to a stranger SP as well.
So I agree with most of what is stated here..
Except... I don't like the part about the don't start off the conversation with "Hi. How are you?"
honestly when anyone contacts me and gets straight to business I find it offensive, and will force the conversation to slow down and it's actually one of my red flags if they don't take a moment to talk and understand I am a real human being, and not just an object for them to play with and discard... If he doesn't acknowledge and respond to have a real conversation while inviting me to see him, then I have no interest in seeing him.. To me that is likely going to be a bad experience and I wont have any of it...
Yes this is a job, but it doesn't have to be one I hate and fear who I will meet.. I very much treat it like a dating site conversation.. I need to be made comfortable with the person before I am willing to see them.. I have had bad experiences as well, but a lot fewer once I insisted on making the person I am going to see, see me as a person and not someone who does what I do because I have to, I don't. But make me want to see you....
As for the MENU discussion... I have seen some providers list their services as a menu, with a price listed next to each activity, and time allocations for each. It really did look like a menu... but do understand that legally a menu is something that can wind a girl up in a lot of trouble. selling sex itself is illegal and could get a girl in trouble. If she is wise, and to protect herself, she MUST claim it is time paid for not the acts within that time being paid for. And with that, I don't want to pull out every trick and tip every visit. It would make the visits mundane and boring to me. Each visit is it's own visit, and every time is different. My response to a menu is often just... "I don't give ideas of what you can do to me... tell me what your looking for and I will let you know if it falls under my GFE, or counts as extra, or if it is unavailable as an option." Be honest and don't be shy asking... We likely wont know you till we get to your door anyways. There's nothing to be shy about. We also do this enough to likely know what you like, once we actually start playing together. Our instincts can likely surprise you.
Just remember when you are going with an Indy girl, you are more likely to be missing out on the experience if you only have the 1 goal of your completion. Treat her well, and you will likely get back more than you initially were contacting her for. Sure there are good and bad apples in every bunch, don't treat her like an object, and she likely wont treat you like a transaction either... Besides survival in this line of work isn't in the 1 time visits, but the callbacks, and if I (she) didn't enjoy time with you, I'm (she's) not coming back, and if you didn't enjoy time with me (her) your not calling her back either.
A very big point missed too when dealing with indy girls... She is doing it on her own.. If she is with someone she can't respond to you right away, often you have to wait for her to have the time to get to your messages.. She likely wont accept calls, because she has her own life to attend to and might be on a visit and unavailable to answer the phone... Read her profile.. she might have set hours... We need to sleep too sometimes, and it is likely your pissing her off when you disturb her sleep, which wont result in her being her best when you then try to book her. She is a woman.... meaning likely those moody traits a partner in a relationship might have.. is intensified because your not even her lover, or even likely someone she has met yet, your trying to be. Basically your dealing with a woman and you want her to be inclined to see you... That understanding needs to be realized.
Except... I don't like the part about the don't start off the conversation with "Hi. How are you?"
honestly when anyone contacts me and gets straight to business I find it offensive, and will force the conversation to slow down and it's actually one of my red flags if they don't take a moment to talk and understand I am a real human being, and not just an object for them to play with and discard... If he doesn't acknowledge and respond to have a real conversation while inviting me to see him, then I have no interest in seeing him.. To me that is likely going to be a bad experience and I wont have any of it...
Yes this is a job, but it doesn't have to be one I hate and fear who I will meet.. I very much treat it like a dating site conversation.. I need to be made comfortable with the person before I am willing to see them.. I have had bad experiences as well, but a lot fewer once I insisted on making the person I am going to see, see me as a person and not someone who does what I do because I have to, I don't. But make me want to see you....
As for the MENU discussion... I have seen some providers list their services as a menu, with a price listed next to each activity, and time allocations for each. It really did look like a menu... but do understand that legally a menu is something that can wind a girl up in a lot of trouble. selling sex itself is illegal and could get a girl in trouble. If she is wise, and to protect herself, she MUST claim it is time paid for not the acts within that time being paid for. And with that, I don't want to pull out every trick and tip every visit. It would make the visits mundane and boring to me. Each visit is it's own visit, and every time is different. My response to a menu is often just... "I don't give ideas of what you can do to me... tell me what your looking for and I will let you know if it falls under my GFE, or counts as extra, or if it is unavailable as an option." Be honest and don't be shy asking... We likely wont know you till we get to your door anyways. There's nothing to be shy about. We also do this enough to likely know what you like, once we actually start playing together. Our instincts can likely surprise you.
Just remember when you are going with an Indy girl, you are more likely to be missing out on the experience if you only have the 1 goal of your completion. Treat her well, and you will likely get back more than you initially were contacting her for. Sure there are good and bad apples in every bunch, don't treat her like an object, and she likely wont treat you like a transaction either... Besides survival in this line of work isn't in the 1 time visits, but the callbacks, and if I (she) didn't enjoy time with you, I'm (she's) not coming back, and if you didn't enjoy time with me (her) your not calling her back either.
A very big point missed too when dealing with indy girls... She is doing it on her own.. If she is with someone she can't respond to you right away, often you have to wait for her to have the time to get to your messages.. She likely wont accept calls, because she has her own life to attend to and might be on a visit and unavailable to answer the phone... Read her profile.. she might have set hours... We need to sleep too sometimes, and it is likely your pissing her off when you disturb her sleep, which wont result in her being her best when you then try to book her. She is a woman.... meaning likely those moody traits a partner in a relationship might have.. is intensified because your not even her lover, or even likely someone she has met yet, your trying to be. Basically your dealing with a woman and you want her to be inclined to see you... That understanding needs to be realized.
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Every provider offers different screening methods, some ask for more information than others, it's your prerogative to choose the one that offers the kind of screening you are comfortable with!
@Rebaynia this thread was created by collecting feedbacks from friends working in the industry or colleagues. It is normal that you don’t agree with 100% of what is said in my post.
I just summed up what frequently came back.
Precision: The “hi how are you?” came back very often. The people I spoke to said they like when men do that but only if it’s immediately followed by a proper request. It does make us feel more human.
I just summed up what frequently came back.
Precision: The “hi how are you?” came back very often. The people I spoke to said they like when men do that but only if it’s immediately followed by a proper request. It does make us feel more human.
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