Defining the PSE

[Marauder69]

I just wanted to share a bit of a beef I have about providers who offer PSE and then don`t provide it. I think one of the problems is that nobody seems to know exactly what a Porn Star Experience should be. So, let`s define it. If a GFE is supposed to include DFK and DATY, a PSE has to be more. The way I see it a PSE should include and the opportunity to dump my load where ever i want. I should be able to spank that ass a bit too. I found a great definition of the PSE which is found here: Do you agree with the definition...what else should we add?

 

[upherbum]

When they advertise pse to me it should include, lfk, dfk, , daty, russian, cim, cof, cob without charging extra, if they do greek they should of course be able to charge extra for that. If they do not provide these services they are not pse.

wtf

I completely agree with you and that`s what was mentioned in the original post of the link, however, when I read down I found it interesting that some providers feel differently. I have had some providers say that PSE doesn`t have to include a as that is unsafe! I for one have never seen a porn star sucking a dick with a cover on!

 

[Tracy]

I have not seen a pornstar suck a dick with a condom on either, but neither have I seen a pornstar fuck with a condom on... so in that way of thinking, PSE should include BBFS as well.... BUT that is definitely unsafe.
The difference between pornstars and SP/ client relations will always be that the pornstars have verified test results to back them up before each shoot.

Therefore, any service provided should be up to the girl if she wants to use protection, whether she advertises PSE or GFE.

 

[Tracy]

I agree that an sp should be able to use a cover if they want to but if that is the case don`t advertise as pse. I am referring to not bbfs as a cover should always be used for that. If an sp does cbj then she should advertise as safe gfe.

wtf

Yes, but STDs can still be passed by ...

 

[Tracy]

That is the risk that an sp takes if she wants to advertise as a pse and perform pse services. Anybody with an ounce of sense knows that there is always a danger of that and if an sp is uncomfortable with it then she should just do cbj but advertise as such.

wtf

ummm.... OK.

 

[naughtylady]

I have not seen a pornstar suck a dick with a condom on either, but neither have I seen a pornstar fuck with a condom on... so in that way of thinking, PSE should include BBFS as well.... BUT that is definitely unsafe.
The difference between pornstars and SP/ client relations will always be that the pornstars have verified test results to back them up before each shoot.

Therefore, any service provided should be up to the girl if she wants to use protection, whether she advertises PSE or GFE.

I have and it is getting more common; don't you watch the porn when you are at at the Chablis or L'Ideal? LOL

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Tracy]

I have and it is getting more common; don't you watch the porn when you are at at the Chablis or L'Ideal? LOL

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

Naw... I stick to the abundant collection at home... when at those hotels, I am more interested in my own porn than whats on TV.

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Gfe / Pse

My understanding of the GFE / PSE label:

GFE : DFK - DATY -
PSE : GFE & TCIM - Greek

In the escorting business these acronyms have been debated many time trying to help the clients to know what to expect in the advertising of the ladies.

However, it was also debated that a girl provinding GFE servies may not have the GFE ``attitude`` wich is still a must for many out there.

As far as I remember, PSE meant Porn Star Experience and it was used to identify girls that where into the movie industry (or shoudl I say porn movies), not the escorting industry.

There is not much steps in between both industres from the moment we are talking about sex industry but there is still.

It should be clear that from the moment we are talking about escort business and not movie business, it should also be know that the PSE label mean the services description. And, like for the GFE label, if they get more of the PSE attitude, them lucky them, or should I say, there you have found a gem like other will say about a GFE provider with the attitude above.

Now that being said, and Tracy I am addressing this next comment to you, misunderstanding what you are saying or not, here`s something that should never be accepted:

Girls that are advertised as GFE or PSE in the escorting business should never provide intercourse without protection. Is it up to the girl to be foolish or not ? Yes it is, but I don`t think that any girls would like to be publiquely know this way and more, no agency would like to have a girl with such reputation knowing how far some STD`s accusation, real or not, can go.

I have not seen a pornstar suck a dick with a condom on either, but neither have I seen a pornstar fuck with a condom on... so in that way of thinking, PSE should include BBFS as well.... BUT that is definitely unsafe.
The difference between pornstars and SP/ client relations will always be that the pornstars have verified test results to back them up before each shoot.

Therefore, any service provided should be up to the girl if she wants to use protection, whether she advertises PSE or GFE.

Just a little reminder ...

 

[Tracy]

Now that being said, and Tracy I am addressing this next comment to you, misunderstanding what you are saying or not, here's something that should never be accepted:

Girls that are advertised as GFE or PSE in the escorting business should never provide intercourse without protection. Is it up to the girl to be foolish or not ? Yes it is, but I don't think that any girls would like to be publiquely know this way and more, no agency would like to have a girl with such reputation knowing how far some STD's accusation, real or not, can go.



Just a little reminder ...

I made that staement because the person said "I do not see pornstars doing BJ with condoms on"... so I rebuttled with the statement of BBFS. I see pornstars every where having unprotected sex, but they have the tests to help them.
I will never advocate for BBFS in this industry... It would be by far a very stupid move... Amazingly though, I have had clients that were interested in BBG... that is even more risky than BBFS... they figured "its up the ass... girl is not going to get preggers.. no risk.."

Believe me If I ever saw a girl offering BBFS, or BBG I would post a warning.

 

[hormone]

We all understand the ymmv part of the biz, if a John is not clean even if a sp advertises as pse no one could blame her for doing cbj. wtf

If a guy is not clean, he should expect the girl to leave...

PSE and GFE have been debated many times. Do a little search, it should help. Jessy has summed it up pretty well for the acronyms. But there is also something about the attitude... the way she gives a BJ, the way she moves, the intensity and agressivity level... There is PSE services, but there is also PSE attitude! And its almost more important!

BTW wtf.. do you need to start all your posts with wtf is going on?

 

[Marauder69]

Hygiene is obviously super important as is grooming but I think that goes without saying. Anyone who hobbies with any regularity is smart enough to groom "down there" and take a shower before visiting a provider. The original point of my post was to try and hammer out a solid definition of something that oftentimes is defined differently by hobbyists than it is by providers.

 

[upherbum]

Hygiene is obviously super important as is grooming but I think that goes without saying. Anyone who hobbies with any regularity is smart enough to groom ``down there`` and take a shower before visiting a provider. The original point of my post was to try and hammer out a solid definition of something that oftentimes is defined differently by hobbyists than it is by providers.

I thought the link you provided had some good points but my feeling is that you`ll never be able to come up with a solid definition of a PSE because there is YMMV with whatever you do. That said, anyone offering a PSE without a is a liar IMO.