In standard a gaffe style it is always CBJ, No DFK and no DATY. I am not even sure what safe GFE is supposed to imply but I agree with Urquell, kind of a way to lure clients without offering the actual GFE service. In my book it means standard a gaffe style. Non GFE.
Is it me or PSE/GFE means nothing these days?
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That is what many SPs are trying to sell as GFE. I stick with the actual acts, DFK, BBBJ, and DATY. If DFK and BBBJ is missing then it is not GFE.
I'm not miffed about things changing. Things always change, and we all have to adapt. The thing you're pointing out though, is something that's just changing for the worse locally, and not everywhere, so it's not exactly the changing of the times here. . I get miffed about people trying to pull the wool over my eyes and treat me like I'm a moron by trying to sell me air and pretend it's perfume. I already go with the ones I like, and don't need your advice to do it. I've also been around enough not to be a sucker for market speak. When I read your response all I could see is:
Now we know that ''safe GFE'' doesn't include bbbj and daty, and that some providers don't know what GFE actually means. So the solution to that is to ask the providers you are booking if they offer dfk, bbbj and daty, and if these are charged as extras. Problem solved! Multiple providers myself included actually offer ''real GFE''. I don't charge extra for the other acronyms because I decided to have an all inclusive rate. Same thing that Raya mentioned earlier in this thread.
Why lol? We’re in agreement. Be smart, ask for what you want, see who you trust. I just don’t see any point (or point of reference) in complaining about “how things used to be.” I imagine in a few years it’ll be me all upset with some “back in my day” tales.
DFK is so hot with an SP and appreciated !
Well, we know what some here would have to say, GFE stands for here in Montreal, it is a list of acronyms.
Let's tell them not to search it's meaning online. Because if it is just a list of acronyms, it seems world wide it has a different meaning than what is being stomped and shouted as it standing for here.It doesn't seem to mean the same thing that is being stated on this board. Search it and see. Hobbiest in Montreal is not the deciding factor on a term that has a universal meaning the world over.
Sigh. You’re completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with “back in the day” despite the fact that I referred to the origins of the term. Nostalgia doesn’t figure into it at all.
Let’s try a different approach. Forget the past ever existed, there is no past and reality starts from this very moment. I have given you a simple, clear and concise definition of what “GFE” means. If I was going to a store where they sold sexual services in other locations and I asked the clerk to sell me a package of GFE he would just reach behind the counter, pull out a box, and give it to me, because he would know exactly what I meant, because his understanding of the product and my understanding of the product would be exactly the same. When I go to the store next door and ask for the same thing he just reaches under his counter and gives me another box of the same thing. That’s my reality in most places.
OK, now we’re in Montreal. You’re going to the store and you want to buy a package of GFE and you ask the clerk for one. He says “what do you mean? What’s that? I have this and this and this and this. Which one would you like?” You are now faced with having to explain what your understanding of GFE is to him. What definition are you going to use to explain it that’s simple and easy to understand? Think about that for a second. OK, now you’ve thought about it and you've told him and you’ve gotten what you want from the clerk based on his available options to you. You go to the store next door and asked for another box of GFE and he says “What’s that?” and lists 4 other products that aren’t the same as the store next door so the definition you came up with is worthless and you have to start all over again. That’s what the market is like here.
So, when I complain about the use of the term what I’m railing against is the lack of consistency in what it means and the problems it creates when dealing with the expectations of the customer. It could mean anything at all, literally anything, so long as it means the same thing for everybody. In most places it does. Here it doesn’t, and people who expect to receive a certain service don’t, necessarily, because you can't take the term GFE at face value here like you can somewhere else. You told me “just ask them”, and that’s good advice for here, and something I always do up front anyway, but it also shouldn’t be as necessary as it is and you shouldn’t have to worry about everyone giving you a different interpretation of the term. People do this regularly right now in order to be able to use GFE as a piece of their marketing, but the way that it gets used here makes the term virtually meaningless. This isn’t about glorifying the past. You can invent a new term or come up with a meaning for GFE right here, right now, give it to everyone and if they accept it and take it on board and use it so that it meant the same thing for everybody then I’d be happy as a clam, no matter what it meant or what was included.
So, what definition would you like to use that's simple, clear and easy to understand?
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