$$$$$$ delusional prices

[Matt8122]

Actually it probably means that we want to be doing it more, with people who will actually appreciate us and not treat us like walking wet holes.

Hell Wolfie, you are fast. Wanted to edit and add some stuff..

Do you think that someone paying your 200$ fee does not appreciate you? treating you like a walking wet hole ? I treat all my Ladies like princesses and I feel all women are equal, her personality and character means more to me than anything. Others may only look at physical attributes and looking for that young hot sexy girl encounter. Looking back at my experiences, I can say I've enjoyed my time with ladies of all descriptions and backgrounds.

and really Miss Wolfe, looking at your site, your another good reason why we shouldn't be paying those higher rates. You are perfect.

 

[rollingstone]

I agree with what Patron said, Montreal has always had a higher end market that is not well represented on Merb. The board has always been hostile to the HDH segment of providers (or least that is my perception in 9 years). I understand what people are saying about higher price not necessarily meaning better service or higher quality, but there are differences. Most notably that I find them more enjoyable for longer engagements, at which point the average hourly rate is the same or lower as the typical 200-300 agency provider.

 

[clark_larson]

There is an hierarchy when it comes to beauty, how else would you explain the price differences that some women charge? It is not randomly set. What I find irrational is the price some men are willing to pay for average looking women. I can only deduce that most men have bad taste. I like women like Vacth or Casta, I still haven't found a girl who comes close to them. If I were to ideolize Jenna Jameson, most girls would be interesting to me.

 

[zmontreal]

When a girl wants more than $200-220/hr in Montreal, you really need to ask yourself, does she really want to be there doing this work? Sure, Americans are stupid suckers and they may pay the 300+ rates, but common, this is the Montreal sex trade industry. Drop the Indys and stick with the agencies, they are much more in sync with what this industry is about. We have XXXtase, Nadyas, Euphoria, and so on..no need to pay 250-500/hr for something that in the end is completely faked and empty. If you are obsessed with a certain girl and don't realize she doesn't really give 2 shits about you, I pity you.

What do they say about fools and their money?

At $250 I had to deal with constant criticism/angry emails about how I'm too busy and that clients had to wait too long to see me. Now that I raise up to a rate at which clients can finally see me, I get a lot of BS about how my rates are too high. You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

And for the record, price has absolutely no bearing on how much an SP cares about her clients. I've charged $200 and $350 and I care about my clients exactly the same.

 

[PopeDover]

There is an hierarchy when it comes to beauty, how else would you explain the price differences that some women charge? It is not randomly set. What I find irrational is the price some men are willing to pay for average looking women.

What I find irrational is that for some men, when reality doesn't conform to their personal opinions, they insist reality is at fault

 

[calidreamin]

More power to Zoe and others who work hard to earn high demand from customers and are able to respond to the demand by increasing their earning power. Price certainly doesn't guarantee quality, but there's no reason an established and well deserved product can't command a premium in any market. Most people have no problem paying more for a great wine than they would for shit wine, or paying more for a great scotch whisky then for the cheapest bottle. So why should anyone be shocked that there's a market for those willing to pay more to spend time with someone who has built up a great brand for themselves.

 

[BookerL]

What do they say about fools and their money?

Hello all



What would I rather be a fool with money ?
Or successful without money ?


If the criteria to be called a fool is to have used the services of "HDH " well I certainly do qualify :lol:
There's more to women then just looks ,I do enjoy young ladies with Bachelors degrees or Masters Degree ,are they worth more it is to each clients to decide .



Cheers




Booker

 

[spinner addict]

If the the girl(SP) is to your standards face wise, body wise and service wise, then i'm ok with paying the price that she asks no matter what it is. ( to a certain limit of course )

If its high, then i'll just see her much much lesser. And the thing is with indy's his that you can have a much more relaxed time with them since they will 99% of the time they won't look at the time and stay longer with you. ( witch for me is a major plus)

BUT yes the service is a minimum, it has to be top notch IMHO to justifie an high price.

NOW as for the looks, it is a VERY MUCH PERSONAL choice from an individual liking. SO you can not judge if somebody is average looking, thin, skinny, curvy, fat, etc... IT IS a personal choice.

If the service is there, top high end, and the lady matchs your criteria, physically speaking, and she charges a high amount, then i see no problem with that.

Everybody's budget is different, so even on that we can't judge. I always had a hard time when i see price tags for clothes, for example, 700$ for a super small summer dress. Its a piece of cloth, but you know what, if i was super rich i would spend that money every day to buy it for my girlfriend, just because i can afford it, AND its high quality/designer.

 

[EdaBlackwood]

Hell Wolfie, you are fast. Wanted to edit and add some stuff..

Do you think that someone paying your 200$ fee does not appreciate you? treating you like a walking wet hole ? I treat all my Ladies like princesses and I feel all women are equal, her personality and character means more to me than anything. Others may only look at physical attributes and looking for that young hot sexy girl encounter. Looking back at my experiences, I can say I've enjoyed my time with ladies of all descriptions and backgrounds.

and really Miss Wolfe, looking at your site, your another good reason why we shouldn't be paying those higher rates. You are perfect.

I should have backed that up I'm good at jumping the gun. Yes the vast majority of my guests appreciate me and I know which ones they are. However I noticed when I was at 180 (my old agency rate that I kept when I went indy) that there was a lot of 'bang for your buck' talk, far too many acronyms, and requests for 15m. Guys were more interested in getting off and getting out than actually relaxing, and if that's a guys thing - power to him but that isn't what I'm offering and that should be clear by my site & ads . When I jumped to 200 that went down drastically. A simple 20$ made the difference. I had far more clients who wrote me polite emails, introduced themselves, backed up their hobbyist with references, etc etc. Now as I prepare to make another jump I am looking forward newer endeavors & adventures. And probably more frustration, but hey it comes with the territory.

 

[Matt8122]

At $250 I had to deal with constant criticism/angry emails about how I'm too busy and that clients had to wait too long to see me. Now that I raise up to a rate at which clients can finally see me, I get a lot of BS about how my rates are too high. You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

And for the record, price has absolutely no bearing on how much an SP cares about her clients. I've charged $200 and $350 and I care about my clients exactly the same.

Not saying your rates are too high, you set them for yourself, so I'm sure they are pretty accurate.

I should have backed that up I'm good at jumping the gun. Yes the vast majority of my guests appreciate me and I know which ones they are. However I noticed when I was at 180 (my old agency rate that I kept when I went indy) that there was a lot of 'bang for your buck' talk, far too many acronyms, and requests for 15m. Guys were more interested in getting off and getting out than actually relaxing, and if that's a guys thing - power to him but that isn't what I'm offering and that should be clear by my site & ads . When I jumped to 200 that went down drastically. A simple 20$ made the difference. I had far more clients who wrote me polite emails, introduced themselves, backed up their hobbyist with references, etc etc. Now as I prepare to make another jump I am looking forward newer endeavors & adventures. And probably more frustration, but hey it comes with the territory.

Very good answer MsWolfe, you should have posted this in the beginning of the thread.

Don't get me wromg here, not saying any providers rate are too high. Indys and agencies can set whatever rate they wish. I'm just saying that given the Montreal escort scene, there are plenty of Ladies available at the lower rates, which are just as gorgeous as the more higher priced escorts. So no delusional pricing exist.

 

[rollingstone]

Its interesting that some tie the price points to beauty - to each his own. For me its about how she makes me feel - and that is a combination of things. Not just a list of services delivered but how they were delivered. When it comes to looks, I place far greater value on the effort a woman puts in rather than natural look. Meaning I would appreciate an average looking woman who took the time and effort to get ready (hair, makeup, nails, attire...etc) than a beautiful one that arrives looking like she just stepped out of her dorm room and is on her way to get milk at the corner store. I would be upset if I booked an HDH for several hours and she showed up looking like she took less time than me to get ready, but I expect it from the lower rate - multiple guys per day crowd.

 

[iSpartacus]

You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

It's not all your fault. Someone figured out the Americans are to blame. The one size fits all answer. LOL! Looks like he has no idea who your reviewers are.

It's interesting how each person handles it when an escort who deserves a a better rate asks to get everything she has prove she has earned.

For me its about how she makes me feel - and that is a combination of things.

I was thinking that earlier today. It's hard to pin value to specific qualities. It's about how she makes you feel. If an escort is so good she can make guys feel great consistently then beauty and other details connected to personal tastes don't matter so much. If you feel great she was great.

 

[Mtl9]

I don't understand this thread. If it's too expensive for you, stay away. It's not like you're all out of options.

 

[loverboy]

"How can anyone pay 300$-350$ an hour to have sex with a 5f3 midget that dresses with vulgar clothes"

I prefer short women. I'm only 5'4 ,I always tend to be attracted to short women.
I've actually had the best time with shorter SP women than taller SP women.

How dare you insult short people.
Hope u don't hit a tree trunk when walking in the street.


I do find $250.00 ++ too rich for my blood. If my favorites will ever increase there rates I will just move on & find another at the rate I can afford.
I do find some the rates getting out of hand.

 

[BookerL]

Hello all


Whatever the rate ,but even more at a higher one ,the think I considered the most to see if she was supporting her booking price, is her repeat sessions and the length of those sessions .

They where and still are more important then over hype reviews .

If the clients is willing to spend more money even though he has considered alternatives and still came back ,it does show alot .


Good luck to the ladies



Cheers




Booker

 

[BookerL]

"How can anyone pay 300$-350$ an hour to have sex with a 5f3 midget that dresses with vulgar clothes"

I prefer short women. I'm only 5'4 ,I always tend to be attracted to short women.
I've actually had the best time with shorter SP women that taller SP women.

How dare you insult short people.
Hope u don't hit a tree trunk when walking in the street.

Actually shorter SP's where always a easier Bookings then taller ones .That was the same over my 20 years Booking stand




Cheers




Booker

 

[Ricky bonds]

There is an hierarchy when it comes to beauty, how else would you explain the price differences that some women charge? It is not randomly set. What I find irrational is the price some men are willing to pay for average looking women. I can only deduce that most men have bad taste. I like women like Vacth or Casta, I still haven't found a girl who comes close to them. If I were to ideolize Jenna Jameson, most girls would be interesting to me.

Hang me, crucify me, call me whatever you like, hate me, judge me in return...
But you sound like a chap from england who thinks he's royalty..or a real condescending piece of work.
Remind me to block out your posts so i don't have to be reminded that we partake in the same sort of hobby.
Who the f**k are you to comment on men that appreciate all facets of womens beauty including the adorable little shortys? And Really though, who the f**k are you to imply that most men have bad taste?

 

[ikuze2]

I personally think that if price is an issue, then stick to your comfort price.
Don't go bad mouthing those who are out of your price range.

If someone complains that they can't see someone because their price is so high, then sacrifice a session, and put that to a higher priced SP. (Problem solved.)
Sure, you'll argue "why pay for a 350 session when you can get 2 180 sessions?"
In the end money spent is money spent, whether you 350 in one go or 2 180s.
The question you should ask at the end of it all is, was it money well spent.
I'm just an average guy with an average income, and by no means can I afford to see higher end SPs on a weekly basis.
If they intrigue me, I'm willing to match the donation.
And ever since I entered this hobby, money donated has for the most part been money well donated.

I'll use Zoe as an example since she's the first one I've seen where the price increased.
Was my experience different when she was priced at 200 than when she was priced at 350?
No. She wasn't. She is still Zoe. Did I get more because I donated 350 an hour? No. She is still Zoe.
She has set the golden standard for me, whether at 200 or 350.
Will I see her again at 350? Yes, If I can and when I can. (It will take longer to save, but yes.)
I'd rather donate to a tried and true experience than look for another 200 session because it was cheaper.
I have tried that and there were great experiences and one disappointing experience. Doesn't mean I won't try it again, but I will definitely be using my thinking head, and not the other one.

I've read so many discussions about price and if the SP is worth it.
The SP think they are. Respect that.

 

[Garotalover]

In a previous post Clark_Larson states that his favorite porn star is a woman named Jemma Valentine - she is certainly no super model. In fact here is her official website. http://www.jemmavalentine.com/about Note that she lists her own height as 5'3". Now he's calling her a midget. BUSTED!!

Of course most guys would like to have sex with a supermodel. But even if one could afford to spend $1000, doesn't mean that the experience will be that much better. And it certainly doesn't mean she will give a shit about you afterwards. If Jessica Alba were an SP I would certainly have a go at least one time for $1000. (Yeah right - In my dreams) She would probably be a lot of rich guys fantasy and guys like Charlie Sheen would be throwing $20,000 at her.

In the end it's simple supply and demand Economics 101. More power to women like Zoe who are smart about the business end of this hobby. I hope that by raising her rates she is able to slow down so that I might have a chance to see her in the not too distant future.

 

[loverboy]

To add to the short comments.

Good things come in small packages.