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DFK - Don't be an idiot

mauricevachon

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DFK is every hobbyist's dream.
But it pays not to be an idiot.

Few things make SPs more uncomfortable than a hobbyist pushing DFK.

Escorts (and many women) have built in ability to endure sex ... even when they are not really up for it.
IF they can externalize it.
Pushy DFK forces them to confront the fact that they are working ... and that they may not want to be with the guy.

That's why for decades, DFK was the biggest taboo in escorting.
It only became a thing in the 2000s.

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The best way to play kissing is this: lay back and accept what the SP gives.
As the SP gets comfortable she'll want LFK.
Indeed, LFK is way more sensual than DFK.

But to get DFK from an SP, you'll need to make a connection first.
 
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masmasak

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DFK is every hobbyist's dream.
Many seek just that.
But it pays not to be an idiot about it.

IMHO nothing disgusts SPs more than a hobbyist pushing DFK.
(Pathetic loser = Hobbyist who ignores signals an SP gives regarding whether she wants to be kissed).

Escorts (and many women) have built in ability to endure sex when they are not really up for it.
IF they can externalize it.
But DFK forces them to be there in that moment and to confront the fact that they do not want to be there
That's why for decades, DFK was the biggest taboo in escorting.
It only became a thing in the 2000s.

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The best way to play kissing is this: lay back and accept what the SP gives.
As the SP gets comfortable she'll want LFK.
Indeed, LFK is way more sensual than DFK.

But to get DFK from an SP, you'll need to make a connection first.

In short: don't be an idiot.
Yes, GFE technically does include DFK.
But by settling for LFK you'll make her way feel comfortable, and you are sure to be compensated in other services.
Self-deceiving ,self-serving!&self-defeating too ,just a creepy " paid wet kiss",!!
 

gaby

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As mentionné by maurice...don't push for it....ne donne rien d'insister et on the contrary cela peut VRAIMENT changer le mood du moment....si cela a à venir....ça viendra tout naturellement....and to b honest oui c'est arrivé que le DFK ne soit pas sur le menu MAIS
je dois dire rarement....my 2 cents.
 

Anna Bijou

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Indeed, LFK is way more sensual than DFK.

Omg this. I find lips better than aggressive tongue. And that's no different as an sp than in my private life.

But the problem in discussing DFK is that we're not all talking about the same thing, so sometimes it's a bit confusing.



Who made you the speaker of all SP's? It's a YMMV situation, as 90% of the time I receive DFK w/o asking.
Perhaps its a you problem?

That's what I'm referring to. Your idea of DFK may be very different than his, so you don't know if you're even talking about the same thing.



Self-deceiving ,self-serving!&self-defeating too ,just a creepy " paid wet kiss",!!

I have no idea what that means..?
 

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I will gladly do DFK if the hygiene is up to my standards. I provide mouthwash at my incall and for some reasons, some people think they’re above using it.

If you didn’t communicate the fact that you like/want it before the date, she might not know you expect it. She might not offer it…

I agree though, don’t push it. If you see she’s not interested, don’t try to force your tongue deeper.
 

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I do not agree with OP post. Each person is different. I will always tell upfront that I seek DFK. During the session I will not push it though, but if there is no DFK or just LFK then I will NOT repeat and move on to the next one. Passionate DFK will make me want to repeat. As I said each person is different, some girls like DFK and others do not. Some can kiss almost anyone while others are very picky. But it is best to state it upfront that way you reduce disappointments and to know if you are a good match. After all you are paying for a fantasy so best to state what you like and seek.
 

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I do not agree with OP post. Each person is different. I will always tell upfront that I seek DFK. During the session I will not push it though, but if there is no DFK or just LFK then I will NOT repeat and move on to the next one. Passionate DFK will make me want to repeat. As I said each person is different, some girls like DFK and others do not. Some can kiss almost anyone while others are very picky. But it is best to state it upfront that way you reduce disappointments and to know if you are a good match. After all you are paying for a fantasy so best to state what you like and seek.
It happened 2 times I did get a big DFK even before I had time to say anything at first meeting... Each time, I found it a bit weird....
Afterward, I think it was their way to break ice
I like when there are a burst of LFKs during action. I find this as passionate as a DFK.
 
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It happened 2 times I did get a big DFK even before I had time to say anything at first meeting... Each time, I found it a bit weird....
Afterward, I think it was their way to break ice
I like when there are a burst of LFKs during action. I find this as passionate as a DFK.
Totally agree!!!
 
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Why pushing to get DFK? Honestly, nobody does the same thing with their tongue, so what to expect from DFK. Some spin it around like they have to win a contest of who does more spin than the other. Some want to push it deeper in the throat than what the can…For me, kissing and tasting lips are way better ;)
 

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As I have previously expressed, the act of DFK holds great personal significance to me. It is an intimate gesture that I reserve exclusively for my romantic partners and individuals with whom I am developing a deep connection. Allow me to clarify that, on rare occasions, there may be a service provider with whom I establish a profound sense of comfort and the physical intimacy shared is akin to that of a genuine romantic relationship. However, I must admit that one of the reasons I refrain from engaging in such activities is due to the possibility that, prior to our encounter, the provider may have performed unprotected oral sex on another client, resulting in the potential presence of their bodily fluids. As such, I am not inclined to partake in the tasting of any random client's semen.
 

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Usually I just go with the flow of the provider (DFK/LFK). Occasionally I may ask point-blank (but politely) whether they do DFK (or at least LFK) or not, if I find that they're hesitating.

No DFK isn't a deal breaker per se (plenty of other things to suck/kiss/lick/etc). But if there isn't at least LFK, dunno...it definitely takes away from the experience.

Btw, there are some providers whose DFK may be too much for some clients as well. So it goes both ways, lol.
 
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masmasak

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Omg this. I find lips better than aggressive tongue. And that's no different as an sp than in my private life.

But the problem in discussing DFK is that we're not all talking about the same thing, so sometimes it's a bit confusing.





That's what I'm referring to. Your idea of DFK may be very different than his, so you don't know if you're even talking about the same thing.





I have no idea what that means..?
The idiot who pay to kiss for whatever the type ,dfk ,lfk or any demand "K"!reserve it for yr real life partner ,sp or she's kiss is as fake as everything else they do for a


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The idiot who pay to kiss for whatever the type ,dfk ,lfk or any demand "K"!reserve it for yr real life partner ,sp or she's kiss is as fake as everything else they do for a


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You nailed it ;)
 

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No means No! If the SP doesn’t offer that service then us guys should respect that.

That being said, which is more personal for the SP - Having a customer’s tongue or his condomless penis in her mouth? No one knows after all it depends on the specific SP. There is no sacred rule that says DFK is the most intimate act of all. When I first started hobbying in Montreal, DFK was more common than BBBJ and there was no extra charge for BBBJTC, the SP either liked u enough as a customer, to offer it as a complimentary extra or not.

If a DFK fanatic finds it harder to get DFK, maybe he should start examining his personal hygiene or how he treats the SP. Or it could simply be shrinkflation - Paying the same for that bag of potato chips which keeps getting smaller. SPs r booked up and they can now offer less but yet have the same amount of business. Whatever the reason, it’s just paid sex, essentially a business transaction. No need to go ‘Agony Aunt’ or philosophical about it. Approach it like a business problem and the fog will clear. Your wallet and penis will thank you for that.
 

masmasak

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You nailed it ,;)
You see they made the variation of kiss a separate commodities item in an inflationary time&customer unwittingly inflates the rate of this hobby by insisting a sloppy sometimes reluctant "dfk" .money buys sex all right,but not passionate love, it is what it is "" an oldest trade in history of mankind'"
 

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DFK, its a give and take situation and some say should be included in a GFE session. Well, I have been in a fair share of relationships and I have to tell you, its not always available even when in a relationship. If the ladies do not want to kiss, then I say let it go. There are times when I don't want DFK with the SPs, just no chemistry or not turned on by the SP. When Kissing is just a lite LFK, and i would like more, I always ask if they are willing to do DFK. And the reasons vary on why they do not offer DFK, its not a deal breaker. As long as there's chemistry in all other departments, I am good to go. Just please do not take away DATY, this is an intimate act that I truly enjoy, and I promise to be gentle.

We as clients expect a certain degree of professional service and are seeking satisfaction to at the highest level. I always hate to bring up the M word, because it just changes the whole experience for me. Its not GFE anymore. MONEY, we are paying for a service and should be satisfied at all costs. With all the respects of course to the ladies, it is their bodies, mind and souls being put out there for a fee and should always make sure they are both comfortable and content with the decisions they make. I do expect a high quality of service, but there are some things I can overlook to stay mindful and respectful to the woman I am with. Boundaries are to be respected.

I love when the lady of my choosing for the night greets me at the door as if we are an intimate couple, not heading for the envelope. A kiss and a hug, I missed you, is always good. Ill even except a quick kiss and "I have to pee" and run to the bathroom. The illusion of GFE is what I/we are looking for, even if it is just for a short time.

In conclusion, a standing ovation and a big thank you to the ladies who take the time to be both professional and considerate of my needs.
 

annabellerileyx

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To be honest, if someone's inquiry is "dfk" first thing and I do meet them, it's more often than not bad, aggressive, wet slobbery kissing and right away.
I kiss, and consider it a specialty of mine, but when it's done like this I can't show off my skills and feel like just giving up. It ceases to be a mutual act, and something gross being done to me that I don't want.
And like another provider said, oral hygiene is a must and if in this situation it's subpar or worse, it becomes something I want to try to get out of.
I've had more than one awful experience with this, and am ready to banish dfk to the tundra. I offer lfk and it becomes more than lfk naturally, so be it -- it is then a mutual act I enjoy.
I do like kissing, but not my face being eaten.
 
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