So what would be the difference from paying twice the rate during sex to have dinner off the clock to paying a reduced rate for a dinner?
Dinner date?
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So what would be the difference from paying twice the rate during sex to have dinner off the clock to paying a reduced rate for a dinner?
I have a few times taken an SP for drinks or a dinner. I like to oggle their bosoms and face and get as titilated as possible and show her off a tiny bit too. Last time, a well known busty blond kept adjusting her bra straps during our dinner. Took my breath away. One time, a girl said I'm off the clock now since I have no more appointments. We spent a good 4 hours together. She then, at last minute, said gee, could you throw in a little extra cause of all the time I spent? I ended up paying close to 4 full hours of fee and felt cheated, a bit, after all she was a knockout and everyone has to make a living.
I prefer an encounter in hotel lounge for a drink. Upstairs for a session, then dinner and session #2 and I expect a lower rate for the dinner. If that is an hour for meet/first session, then an hour for dinner, then round 2 is a third hour. Should cost 2.5 the hourly rate. However, as I get older a second SOG is pretty hard so I usually do round 2 as just a DATY and HJ combo. Not sure if this helps?
I prefer an encounter in hotel lounge for a drink. Upstairs for a session, then dinner and session #2 and I expect a lower rate for the dinner. If that is an hour for meet/first session, then an hour for dinner, then round 2 is a third hour. Should cost 2.5 the hourly rate. However, as I get older a second SOG is pretty hard so I usually do round 2 as just a DATY and HJ combo. Not sure if this helps?
We all have different needs and preferences, there is no need to judge people or berate their choices. If I was hobbying in the same city I live in (something I never do), then yes I would completely prefer meeting someone only for an indoor only meet. I would also have a preference for incall. But I do not live in Montreal, and visit it maybe only once or twice a year, and hence I have a different agenda than many hobbyists who live there. I would never pay someone their full hourly rate for an encounter that included social time, but I will compensate them in accordance with what is the norm for that market. As for paying someone for a social only encounter, not something I would do, but again to each his own.
Personally my idea of spoiling myself is an 8 hour session that includes indoor and outdoor activities. After 10 years of hobbying I know what keeps me smiling. And I spent way more money on 1-2 hour sessions with a parade of beauties going through my room and not been nearly as content.
Personally my idea of spoiling myself is an 8 hour session that includes indoor and outdoor activities. After 10 years of hobbying I know what keeps me smiling. And I spent way more money on 1-2 hour sessions with a parade of beauties going through my room and not been nearly as content.
A dinner date, club dancing and then a stroll through town back to your classy hotel room... 007 or whatever fantasy you wanna rock. Common people, sure I can take a friend or a friend's wife to dinner but I sure as hell can't fulfill the fantasy without the guilt!! :smile:
I like to make some kind of philosophic questionning in life to help understand how others could think. :lol:
Tell me, what is the best for the self-esteem, at the end?
To be in public with a beautiful woman exchanging agreeably over a good meal and sharing some other activities
or to be in private with the same beautiful woman without talking at all? :lol:
I'm kidding here, but I think you get the point.
Some are just sapiosexual and their pleasures goes beyond the first level only, and to be able to appreciate someone entirely give them much more pleasures at the end.
Yes, their enjoyment is ten times higher. I think is a very good reason then to share a dinner date. :nod:
Maybe sometimes, you don't have to go the route of BDSM to try to put more pleasures in your life in a different way :lol:
In the other hand, I feel always disappointed to see people who are not living the same realities negatively judging others.
That's exactly how wars were beginning on earth, because others were having a different God, a different language, different habits etc........
At the end, we are all humans, not totally build on the same schemes, not having the same sensibility, and this is very fine. Imagine how dull it will be if so..... horror story :angel:
Nota Bene: by the way, it is just not a coincidence that it is written often a kind of message saying:
"you are paying for my time & my presence and whatever may happen or not is a matter of a personal choice between 2 consenting adults"
I know, for some, that's just a way to stay away from some investigation, but at the end, I have been always surprised that some ladies were dropping that much there donation when it was for "social only" because they were implicitly admitting then something directly, and also it is a kind of depreciation of their time, but we are all entitle to deal it the way we feel it is right. I know that's a very erotic part of an encounter for some gentlemen, so why not deal with it almost equally about "the rest of the encounter"?
Whatever it imply, an encounter is still an encounter: the preparation is the same, to be of a good company is the same, the basic entertaining is the same, if I may say it like that. In fact, it demands less to someone to just be "beautiful without talking" (sois belle et tais-toi) then to be able to entertain and connect on different subjects and even to be able to make laugh your host or your guest. I think that's just different levels of erotism at the end, but still it is.
That's part of the fantasy, the building of this little private bubble we are building to make disappear the rest of the world, for few hours.
Tell me, what is the best for the self-esteem, at the end?
To be in public with a beautiful woman exchanging agreeably over a good meal and sharing some other activities
or to be in private with the same beautiful woman without talking at all? :lol:
I'm kidding here, but I think you get the point.
Some are just sapiosexual and their pleasures goes beyond the first level only, and to be able to appreciate someone entirely give them much more pleasures at the end.
Yes, their enjoyment is ten times higher. I think is a very good reason then to share a dinner date. :nod:
Maybe sometimes, you don't have to go the route of BDSM to try to put more pleasures in your life in a different way :lol:
In the other hand, I feel always disappointed to see people who are not living the same realities negatively judging others.
That's exactly how wars were beginning on earth, because others were having a different God, a different language, different habits etc........
At the end, we are all humans, not totally build on the same schemes, not having the same sensibility, and this is very fine. Imagine how dull it will be if so..... horror story :angel:
Nota Bene: by the way, it is just not a coincidence that it is written often a kind of message saying:
"you are paying for my time & my presence and whatever may happen or not is a matter of a personal choice between 2 consenting adults"
I know, for some, that's just a way to stay away from some investigation, but at the end, I have been always surprised that some ladies were dropping that much there donation when it was for "social only" because they were implicitly admitting then something directly, and also it is a kind of depreciation of their time, but we are all entitle to deal it the way we feel it is right. I know that's a very erotic part of an encounter for some gentlemen, so why not deal with it almost equally about "the rest of the encounter"?
Whatever it imply, an encounter is still an encounter: the preparation is the same, to be of a good company is the same, the basic entertaining is the same, if I may say it like that. In fact, it demands less to someone to just be "beautiful without talking" (sois belle et tais-toi) then to be able to entertain and connect on different subjects and even to be able to make laugh your host or your guest. I think that's just different levels of erotism at the end, but still it is.
That's part of the fantasy, the building of this little private bubble we are building to make disappear the rest of the world, for few hours.
sam21,
with all due respect
i understand that from your point of view it is useless to pay for bringing an sp for the part that is let say social.
but i wonder it hasn't cross your mind that you may build a conenction through that social time.
which will have the consequence to enhance your session and future meeting..
with all due respect
i understand that from your point of view it is useless to pay for bringing an sp for the part that is let say social.
but i wonder it hasn't cross your mind that you may build a conenction through that social time.
which will have the consequence to enhance your session and future meeting..
not all providers only provide sex, many of us are companions. Some people may see it as sad to only pay for sex and not establish a connection with another human being if you are going to repeatedly call on them for sexual services. But as you said, it is all opinion.
But on that website you get more than pre established hours with girls. I think it's more worth it but I have to admit I never tried... My golden rule is to never make a sp know that you are vulnerable or desperate.. to me dining with a complete stranger from 800$ and more portrays one of the two. Sorry for your experience.
Well for one I would never take a civilian girl to say Toque or Verses on a first date. No the Hell way. Civilian girl has to earn it. For an SP if I think she is worth it already earned that right and privilege to be wined and dined at a fine restaurant early on.
I have been on dating site on and off for the last 20 years, I have met many ladies ( civilian girl, first time i hear that expression ) it was always in front of a coffee, after that if there was a connection, I would bring her to a restaurant, or should we say we would go to a restaurant and since we are still in the process of knowing each other it is normal ( at least my fellow workers , all women advise me not to pay the total bill) that we have separate bill, I was never at ease with that, but i do not think its about earning, because earning imply that she must do some thing, like what?
After a certain time depending of the situation I was paying the bill, but then again this a very personal decision, and it is not about gallantry, gallantry is something else
Qapla
M.
Well, on this subject, i will wine, dine and even go to a special place for desert, i am not only doing this for them, its something i enjoy, and going to a nice restaurant with someone and enjoying good food and conversation, i cant really put a price on it, whether its a civilian or working girl. I can say its more enjoyable then being alone, well you can claim your a food critic just so you dont look like you have no friends.
And on the topic of the bill,check, tab, whatever you want to call it, i will always pay for a lady, whether its a bad or good date, i cant see asking a lady to pay, its just not something i can do, i guess you can say i have a little old fashion in me.
Thor Jr
And on the topic of the bill,check, tab, whatever you want to call it, i will always pay for a lady, whether its a bad or good date, i cant see asking a lady to pay, its just not something i can do, i guess you can say i have a little old fashion in me.
Thor Jr
Maria Divina, you have a beautiful mind. I love reading you...
Oh thank you Jarhead, that's a very nice comment
Sam, I knew and understood exactly before writing my post to explain what is a dinner date and how it inhances an experience, that for you, your erotism is not stimulate or you think you won't have a better pleasure that what you already experiencing on Life.. I was not pointing to you exactly, I know, for years of debates on Merb that exist the "services only oriented gentlemen & ladies" and the others who are open and willing to connect more humanly, or want to connect in other possible levels to enhance for themselves, for their own pleasures. That's a selfish pleasure. For some gentlemen, there is something really good in their mind and heart doing this.
And it increases all the sensations after. So that's why I made a pale comparison to BDSM, because that's another way to increase your sensations after.
Oh, when I started my thread beginning by saying that I like to ask questions to help me understanding others...... That was a style of writing. In fact, to put things clearly, I was looking to find a way that others who don't understand US who are indulging in dinner dates could have a brief idea of what is the purpose of.
I imagine that you will need to live it once to feel the difference. But I guess it will give you nothing if you are a strict only services oriented person.
There are several shades of grey in this kind of special agreement. I am here to satisfy certain kinds of needs who are giving pleasures to a gentleman asking myself to be his companion. That's my pleasure to please, and certainly I will accept to share only agreeable moments of different kinds, an a dinner date is just a part of multiples possibilities.
And that's definitively not a "just pay for talking". That's part of the erotism of the encounter. I hope it is more clear for that part.
*please, I'm trying to type with a phone presently, it's just harder to verify my writing. Don't keep it against me :lol:
Wow so why are you here if you are not a hobbyist and don't intend to take the plunge? Is it for info on MPs and Strip clubs? Why would you even contribute to this thread?
You quoted me with my "lol" face at a different place that I had put it, hummmm, looks strange now, because it's really far from me the idea to laugh or to look badly to people who are services oriented, because in fact, all possibilities are existing and I just don't mind, it doesn't change my reality at the end. Everybody is entitle to his or her boundaries. Some are able to give them all, others don't, in an adventure outside of a relationship. AND THAT'S FINE. The final idea is to live what please you and which with you are comfortable.
You don't have a problem, please don't believe that. Could we, in life, sincerely take a preference to do something of someone for a problem?
In fact, you just pointed yourself exactly what was my point. I will repeat my last sentence: Could we, in life, sincerely take a preference to do something of someone for a problem?
Much more when it comes when we are talking about private life. Because, yes, that's part of the private life, "du jardin secret".
I know exactly what you are living about
We all have felt this, you're not the only one who say it, and the companion ladies are having a similar thought also adapted to their side of this reality.
So, you did not already take the plunge? I thought you had. But just to let you know one thing: nobody is cut out for the escort world when they come into life: however that's a deliberate choice of choosing the way we want to be part of it.
Thank you for your last sentence of your post, see, it looks like to meet someone who will not see you just as a "wallet" could make a difference for you. (that's what it is said about an escort who is just services oriented and don't want to sympatize at all, just a "wham bam thank you mam" style)
I think you sense more the idea than you may think. If you never had in life adventures with women you connected with but without deep feelings, just for the fun of it, it might be a bit difficult to imagine how it should be lived. I am not the only one who likes to connect, but when we are reading Merb, we could have the impression while reading some people that there is one way to meet, it seems there is a majority of members who are glorifying the "only services oriented" encounters. And for what I know, that's people who are deeply afraid to fall in love again, so, they don't want to take any chance at all, and to have just the impression it is too "romantic" to their tastes, it will be unbearable. They build a distance just to protect their pain/vulnerability, that's all. Maybe there are other reasons, but I did not find them yet. All the greatest XXX fans only oriented that I know are like that. Anyway, that's another topic.
Hi
Please give this person a chance, if he didn't take the plunge yet, it is for very special reasons that I fully understand, since theses forums are for every one and help people who have yet took the plunge to have a better idea of what kind of world is going into, as for contribution to this board, I have been a merit for 13 years and i have only about 100 posts mainly in the years 2003-2007
Qapla
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