Dinner dates and overnights

[LC18]

The main reason i always doing the bedroom stuff before going out for dinner is that it’s been my experience that lovemaking with a full stomach has never worked for me. I feel bloated, heavier & often sleepy after eating.

I’m with you on that, I feel a lot sexier when my stomach is reasonably empty. Not so much that it starts roaring like a lion but just enough that I don’t feel 4 months pregnant. That’s the sweet spot.

I always try to suggest sexy time before dinner.

 

[Sylar]

An overnight is typically 12 to 16 hours because you still have to sleep and most people would appreciate at the very least 7 hours. That’s the intention but it doesn’t always end up being that way due to stress, excitement, novelty and not sleeping in your own bed. I know I usually sleep 5-6 hours on overnights so the following day for me is basically not a fully functional day.

Range varies from $1,000 to 10,000 for a night (those are rates I’ve seen on ads and websites) most of my friends and I are around $2,000-3,500

I woke up, looked into the mirror and was reminded that I am Asian, so here is some (client) math.

I am assuming an overnight rate of $3000 for 14 hours based on the numbers LC has given. Let's say the SP usually charges $1000 for a 4 hour dinner date which includes the public time.
This means the client is essentially paying $2000 for 8 hours of "sleep and cuddles". That's a 250/H rate.

Adding hotel and dinner, I just don't see how this is in any way or form valuable.

This is my personal perspective. I am sure there are folks who get a lot of value sleeping next to a beautiful woman, but I am similar to LC and would probably need to take the next day off due to unrestful sleep.

 

[cru_33]

An overnight is typically 12 to 16 hours because you still have to sleep and most people would appreciate at the very least 7 hours. That’s the intention but it doesn’t always end up being that way due to stress, excitement, novelty and not sleeping in your own bed. I know I usually sleep 5-6 hours on overnights so the following day for me is basically not a fully functional day.

Range varies from $1,000 to 10,000 for a night (those are rates I’ve seen on ads and websites) most of my friends and I are around $2,000-3,500

That makes sense. I had figured that 8 hours sleep might not come easy, and might not be desired if the connection is right, but definitely 10 hours is short in my example, and 12 to 16 hours sounds great. Pricier, but reasonably so.

 

[LC18]

I am assuming an overnight rate of $3000 for 14 hours based on the numbers LC has given. Let's say the SP usually charges $1000 for a 4 hour dinner date which includes the public time.
This means the client is essentially paying $2000 for 8 hours of "sleep and cuddles". That's a 250/H rate.

A lot of times the overnights started at 8:00 PM so sexy time, sleep and then more sexy time in the morning before breakfast.

 

[Sylar]

A lot of times the overnights started at 8:00 PM so sexy time, sleep and then more sexy time in the morning before breakfast.

No, I'd expect this to be a proper GFE, which means during the morning we will complain about snoring and stealing the blanket. Then we argue about the best way to make eggs for breakfast.

We are civilized people and not savages after all.

 

[LC18]

No, I'd expect this to be a proper GFE, which means during the morning we will complain about snoring and stealing the blanket. Then we argue about the best way to make eggs for breakfast.

We are civilized people and not savages after all.

I always end up without a blanket during overnights and I’m too shy to fight for it so I just freeze. That’s probably what’s keeping me awake

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

When i was younger i would always end up on the floor during the night, i toss and turn a lot,

Even today, I still wake up some mornings with nothing left but myself on a raw mattress, all pillows, blankets and sheets on the floor. And when I had a lover sleeping over I would find her on the couch in the morning with the grumpy face and the attitude that comes with it! No, I am not a good sleeping partner, past the cuddling part I turn into an uncontrollable, unconscious tornado!

 

[jjohnston422]

I wouldn't subject anyone to my snoring and paying someone to endure it is kind of sadistic lol.

I fully understand why people would rather do the dinner at the end of a date. Dinner dates appeal to me because I am pretty shy so having the dinner first gives me a bit more time to get comfortable.

 

[Sylar]

Well, I am with you on that. I don't offer it anymore since, I'm getting too old, I don't know? I switched my offer for a "day-date", so 10 hours together but awake and actually doing things and having fun (with that said, we can rest and have a nap if we'd like, after some bed-fun on a rainy day...). Overnights don't fit my personality and preferences anymore. My offer was a dinner date + playtime + sleep + playtime + breakfast, so 16-18 hours. We could take our time since I am very slow-paced and I love to take my time, a 12-hour for me is way, way too short. But many things don't interest me anymore in an encounter where we spend half the time sleeping, unless we spend the WHOLE day together! That's fun though.

A 10-hour day date sounds a lot more fun and I can totally see how this would be enjoyable with you!

 

[czar]

I did an overnight once… never again. It was with a lady I knew for quite a while. I visited her many times for a 1 hour rendezvous. We got along well and had a great time. Good conversation. Good connection. Or so I thought… at least for an hour! But as the dinner started to drag on, I soon realized I made a mistake. Conversation was fine at the beginning… but it wore thin after a while. Back at the hotel, the activities were great… for the first hour… then it became a little awkward. It was getting late so we decided to get some sleep. She snores like thunder… I couldn’t sleep. Then she was uncomfortable and couldn’t sleep. Had a little fun but I wasn’t really into it… I wanted to sleep! Anyway… morning couldn’t come fast enough. Never saw her again after that. Just kind of spoiled what we had. So… never again.

Czar.

 

[LC18]

I switched my offer for a "day-date", so 10 hours together but awake and actually doing things and having fun (with that said, we can rest and have a nap if we'd like, after some bed-fun on a rainy day...).

I’ve been wanting to try that with my Twitter posts about Montreal, I think that could be easily done. I just haven’t found the right package and rate yet.

I don’t want it to be too expensive as per usual I’m overthinking it

 

[lovethaifood]

What do you actually expect from a dinner date and from an overnight?

For overnights, I think the expectation is far different than the reality.

Expectation: I think most clients are going to expect some marathon all night love making F-fest session like you are on a runaway freight train car to China, interspersed with refractory periods of recovery and nap time. Waking up to a BBBJ is amazing. Basically sex on demand as many time as you can get it up in the night. Nudge the SP out of their sleep.

Reality: A hot vigorous session before dinner, a nice meal together, another lighter session before cuddles, pillow talk and sleep, morning sex, shower together, breakfast.

Never done an overnight with an SP, only really have tried only one extended dinner date ever. I go back and forth on whether I would want to eat dinner at first or in between. I would want to maximize time in room but, I also get the empty stomach thing. My dinner date I ended up just having a salad and getting the entree to go.

I really would like to make a dinner for an SP though in a nice Airbnb with a kitchen sometime. I think the only hesitation to do that is what foods does the SP like, allergies, etc.

Dinner in the room, apartment or suite could be very nice. I think instead of an overnight, I would be more apt to do a long weekend or 4 days away with an SP to a tropical island. Like travel day 1, two full beach and sun days 2 and 3 in Aruba(pick a destination), travel back day 4.

There are some reddit threads on the subject of overnights and opinions vary. Some of the "SPs" wrote don't wake me to or expect a punch in the face to I will go all night long provided the tip is appropriate.

One last thing on the subject of dinner. The Netflix special You are What You Eat that followed the Stanford study of 23 pairs of identical twins for 8 weeks on Carnivore and Omnivore diets has a interesting part on sexual response before the diet and at end of 8 weeks. I like finding studies on diet and sex enjoyment.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I’ve been wanting to try that with my Twitter posts about Montreal, I think that could be easily done. I just haven’t found the right package and rate yet.

I don’t want it to be too expensive as per usual I’m overthinking it

You can look at my website and see how I structured it.

 

[LC18]

I did an overnight once… never again. It was with a lady I knew for quite a while. I visited her many times for a 1 hour rendezvous. We got along well and had a great time. Good conversation. Good connection. Or so I thought… at least for an hour! But as the dinner started to drag on, I soon realized I made a mistake. Conversation was fine at the beginning… but it wore thin after a while. Back at the hotel, the activities were great… for the first hour… then it became a little awkward. It was getting late so we decided to get some sleep. She snores like thunder… I couldn’t sleep. Then she was uncomfortable and couldn’t sleep. Had a little fun but I wasn’t really into it… I wanted to sleep! Anyway… morning couldn’t come fast enough. Never saw her again after that. Just kind of spoiled what we had. So… never again.

Czar.

Her limit was 60 mins.

Some people think “I enjoy dates with my clients, I could see them for longer” but then don’t realize they have an inner timer and after the time is up, it starts showing.

 

[LC18]

Expectation: I think most clients are going to expect some marathon all night love making F-fest session like you are on a runaway freight train car to China, interspersed with refractory periods of recovery and nap time. Waking up to a BBBJ is amazing. Basically sex on demand as many time as you can get it up in the night. Nudge the SP out of their sleep

I have never had someone asked me if we would have sex for the 16 hours they’d book me. I think everyone understands that we will sleep.

If someone asked, I would simply decline their request or charge them a lot more which would have them take their request back.

 

[lovethaifood]

I have never had someone asked me if we would have sex for the 16 hours they’d book me. I think everyone understands that we will sleep.

If someone asked, I would simply decline their request or charge them a lot more which would have them take their request back.

I don't mean 16 hours straight but, I think there are some clients who would think it would be ok to wake the SP throughout the night out of their sleep if they wanted to go again. Sleep is way too important to me with regard to stress and cortisol levels, DNA cell repair, autophagy etc. I probably rely way too much on my fitness tracker to check my sleep score. I think I sleep better alone. When I was cat sitting for someone, it was startling when the cat would walk on me in the night.

I've read stories of couples who sleep in separate beds/rooms after sex or even on nights they don't have sex.. Even heard a term for couples that took separate honeymoons after their wedding. Think it was called unimoon. Strange to me but, I guess I can see it. I get a lot out of traveling alone.

Some friends of mine went on a Mediterranean cruise recently and were trying to convince me to come. I didn't like the time constraints in the different ports and don't want to feel tied down to the group itinerary or worry about the ship leaving without me. What is the point of seeing the Acropolis if I only have 30 minutes to enjoy it and snap a picture before moving onto the next thing?

 

[LC18]

I don't mean 16 hours straight but, I think there are some clients who would think it would be ok to wake the SP throughout the night out of their sleep if they wanted to go again.

It’s never happened to me and I’ve never been asked but I guess only a few people actually ask me for overnights and they’re respectful enough to know not to wake someone up in the middle of the night.

 

[Rosie Sparkles]

My experience with overnights is that my lover is very eager to have sex all night but have eyes bigger than their stomach And after two or three (how do you call em? ah yes ''shot on goal'' lmao) they are satisfied and want to play video games or order food, watch a movie while cuddling, etc... What you want as a service should guide who you choose as a provider. If you want a more sex-driven meeting, meet someone that offer PSE. If you want cuddles, pillow talk as well as sexy times, a more balanced GFE session should satisfy you. Either way, I personnally would ''test'' my connection with a provider before commiting for a long period of time with them. Maybe take a dinner date before an overnight? You will have a better time if you have common interests and the conversation flow. My two cents.

 

[lovethaifood]

My experience with overnights is that my lover is very eager to have sex all night but have eyes bigger than their stomach And after two or three (how do you call em? ah yes ''shot on goal'' lmao) they are satisfied and want to play video games or order food, watch a movie while cuddling, etc... What you want as a service should guide who you choose as a provider. If you want a more sex-driven meeting, meet someone that offer PSE. If you want cuddles, pillow talk as well as sexy times, a more balanced GFE session should satisfy you. Either way, I personnally would ''test'' my connection with a provider before commiting for a long period of time with them. Maybe take a dinner date before an overnight? You will have a better time if you have common interests and the conversation flow. My two cents.

Great observation. Time to come up with new metaphors besides shots on goal. Begs the question who was the first person to come up with that. In my head I hear a Spanish language soccer announcer yelling GOOOAAALLLLL!

 

[Rosie Sparkles]

I have this crazy idea we should not focus on ejaculation lmao I know I'm crazyyy

SOG makes me think of soggy