Dirty Harry is now Crazy Uncle Harry

[daydreamer41]

Rumps, if someone posts something contrary to your beliefs, you go ape shit, accuse them of shit-stirring.

As for the mods taking action, I am not sure you have any credibility with the mods here with all of your drama.

The Leni Riefenstahl comment was pretty rank, rumps.

Dinesh D'Sousa' s documentary about Barack Obama was done very well. He interviewed many of Obama's relatives and friends, and friends of his mother. You should see it. You may learn something.

 

[Merlot]

THIS JUST IN:

After reviewing the video of Eastwood's performance Mr. Chair his decided to fire Eastwood and a get new ventriloquist doll. After reviewing his own performance Eastwood himself has decided to make Mr. Chair the lead in his next film and retire from acting.

Personally, I felt sorry that a chair was a much steadier actor than the old Hollywood legend. Eastwood looked as right up there as "ketchup on a hotdog".

Eastwood was fine.

OMG, c'mon. If you're serious Mr. Chair has an open job for you.

...stalking me.

Have you noticed there's one following me posting only totally off-subject personal comments. Won't even name him, he'll be here...and there's only one D in the name.

yikes,

Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

Merlot, you just don't get it (oh my, rumps, I am addressing someone else than you. Can you take it?).

Clint was great. His metaphor was great of Obama being an empty suit. Clint hit a home run.

Even Obama's response was telling. Obama has his back turned in the picture. That speaks volumes of Obama.

 

[Mod 11]

Rumple and Daydreamer,
This is your one and only warning: use the "ignore" function on each others if you are not grown-up enough to conscientiously ignore each other. Next time one address the other in this thread will lead to a 2 weeks suspension.

BOTH of you are very close to the same level of credibility for all moderators so, no need to try getting us on your side.

Thanks

 

[Red Paul]

So anyway ... here's a key but little-noticed moment from the Clint disaster. A throwaway line:

I know you were against the war in Iraq, and that’s okay.

Note that nobody in the convention hall, and no right-wing pundits, had anything to say against this remark. I remember when us Iraq War opponents were all traitorous, appeasing, French-loving surrender monkeys. Now a speaker on stage at the GOP convention can say that opposing the war was "okay," and the right just keeps quiet and hopes the subject will go away.

I don't say Eastwood changed his mind about the war. As far as I know he was always against it (for libertarian, small-govt reasons). What I have in mind are the Republicans who were beating the war drums 10 years ago -- and that's a lot of Republicans. They got the war they wanted and the rest of received a standing lesson in how bad the GOP is at making serious decisions, decisions with consequences.

 

[daydreamer41]

They got the war they wanted and the rest of received a standing lesson in how bad the GOP is at making serious decisions, decisions with consequences.

Total BS. Based on the intelligence at the time, many Democrats including Hillary Clinton and John Kerry made the same decision. They voted for going to war against Iraq. So don't go wagging your finger at anyone.

I personally think it was the wrong country. Iran is a much bigger problem than Iraq or Saddam Hussein.

 

[Red Paul]

Ho, ho, ho. I remember when George Bush was a "leader" because he forced those weak-kneed Democrats to man up and march with him on Saddam Hussein. Now the right's best defense for the Big Botch in the Middle East is that it wasn't their idea, everybody wanted to do it.

Not everybody -- a lot of Democrats were against the invasion and one of them is now president. Obama was smart enough to see the mess that Bush's big adventure was going to create. Now, 10 years later, Republicans can see the Iraq mess too. And typically they figure it can't be their fault.

Based on the intelligence at the time ...

No. Bush's people did not trust the intelligence community and thought they were understating the supposed threat from Iraq. The Bush team came up with its own "intelligence" and went to war based on that.

But all right, this is Clint's thread, not a thread for rehashing the war. I bring up the subject only because of Clint's remark and because of what the right's non-response says about their movement.

 

[daydreamer41]

Ho, ho, ho. I remember when George Bush was a "leader" because he forced those weak-kneed Democrats to man up and march with him on Saddam Hussein.

Forced? Explain that one. You're a liberal, so you don't have to explain anything you say. Plus, the rest of what you say is unfounded. But this, as you say, is the Clint Eastwood thread. Go Clint!!!!



But really, wasn't Obama's response to Clint Eastwood's empty chair act the most telling part of this whole affair?

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/08/31/news/web_photos/barack051029--525x550.JPG

Obama has his back turned on everyone, like usual. Hahahaha

 

[Red Paul]

Forced? Explain that one.

Friend, I'm giving the right-wing spin as it existed 10 years again. The right didn't say Kerry and Clinton voted for the war because they were brave people and friends of liberty. They said Dems voted for the war because of George Bush's leadership. Hence: "Bush was a 'leader' because he forced those weak-kneed Democrats to man up," etc.

Plus, the rest of what you say is unfounded.

Hey, good one. Consider me shocked and awed by the intellectual force of your rebuttal.

But this brings us back to Clint's performance. The saddest thing about the right is the way they lose themselves in fantasy. When the rest of us don't go along, they have nothing to fall back on.

 

[Techman]

Daydreamer...you and Eastwood seem to be forgetting that it wasn't a Democrat who sent the troops into Afghanistan in the first place and it wasn't a Democrat who sent troops into Iraq chasing nonexistant weapons of mass destruction. And it wasn't a Democrat who opened Gitmo either. It was a Republican named Bush. Now you blame Obama for not cleaning up the shit that your former president created, fast enough. Typical.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Eastwood seem to be forgetting that it wasn't a Democrat who sent the troops into Afghanistan in the first place and it wasn't a Democrat who sent troops into Iraq chasing nonexistant weapons of mass destruction.

It's all reminiscent of Paul Ryan's blaming Obama for the auto plant that closed in Ryan's home town before he even took office.

There was one consistent theme running throughout the Republican convention: the Republicans think the American people are stupid and will fall for anything.

 

[Techman]

Well it's obvious that Republicans will fall for anything. They don't seem to be the brightest bulbs in the box. They do seem to love strip joints though, the clubs in Tampa did great business during the convention.

 

[Merlot]

Daydreamer...you and Eastwood seem to be forgetting that it wasn't a Democrat who sent the troops into Afghanistan in the first place and it wasn't a Democrat who sent troops into Iraq chasing nonexistant weapons of mass destruction. And it wasn't a Democrat who opened Gitmo either. It was a Republican named Bush. Now you blame Obama for not cleaning up the shit that your former president created, fast enough. Typical.

Hello all,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Powell

A Senate report on intelligence failures would later detail the intense debate that went on behind the scenes on what to include in Powell's speech. State Department analysts had found dozens of factual problems in drafts of the speech. Some of the claims were taken out, but others were left in, such as claims based on the yellowcake forgery (The Niger uranium forgeries are forged documents initially revealed by SISMI (Italian military intelligence). The administration came under fire for having acted on faulty intelligence, particularly what was single-sourced to the informant known as Curveball. Powell later recounted how Vice President Dick Cheney had joked with him before he gave the speech, telling him, "You've got high poll ratings; you can afford to lose a few points." Powell's longtime aide-de-camp and Chief of Staff from 1989–2003, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, later characterized Cheney's view of Powell's mission as to "go up there and sell it, and we'll have moved forward a peg or two. Fall on your damn sword and kill yourself, and I'll be happy, too."[44]

In September 2005, Powell was asked about the speech during an interview with Barbara Walters and responded that it was a "blot" on his record. He went on to say, "It will always be a part of my record. It was painful. It's painful now."[45]

Wilkerson said that he inadvertently participated in a hoax on the American people in preparing Powell's erroneous testimony before the United Nations Security Council.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

Let's not forget that Bush and Cheney scammed the American people and the Congress into supporting the Iraq war "despite warnings from the German Federal Intelligence Service questioning the authenticity of the claims" by an Iraqi defector named "Curveball" who "CIA chief covert operations in Europe" Tyler Drumheller "who has said that the CIA had credible sources discounting some weapons of mass destruction claims before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. Drumheller described Curveball as "a guy trying to get his green card essentially, in Germany, and playing the system for what it was worth." "According to Drumheller, the CIA, with the help of a friendly intelligence service, recruited Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri in Europe during the late summer of 2002. [1] Sabri told the CIA in September that Saddam had no major active weapons of mass destruction programs; they had no fissile material and biological weapons were almost non-existent.

In sum, the Bush administration knew they had no reliable information and pressured Powell to sell the case like a cheap gadget salesman.

Now for your entertainment DD (Carl Rove clone) will call me a Liberal and deny...deny...deny. (wait for it)

...the Republicans think the American people are stupid and will fall for anything.

DD bought it.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[EagerBeaver]

You guys are a bunch of knuckleheads. Clint's stunt at the RNC was just that, a stunt, designed to create interest in his movie "Trouble With The Curve", which is to be released September 21 - a little more than 2 weeks from now. Clint bamboozled Romney, and now he has bamboozled all of you. At age 82 he will continue to make money in the movie business. Apparently you guys know far less about the "game" than even the character in this trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJPvXLemVs

Clint was playing his character on stage, a guy who is getting very old very fast.

Joaquin Phoenix pulled the same shit a few years and it did not work as well for him. These are stunts by professional actors.

 

[Techman]

Won't know how well it worked for Clint until the movie opens. It might just tank because of his performance at the RNC. I for one have no interest in sitting through a couple of hours of that crap.

Merlot, have you watched The Green Zone? Fantastic movie that goes well with your last post.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

You guys are a bunch of knuckleheads. Clint's stunt at the RNC was just that, a stunt, designed to create interest in his movie "Trouble With The Curve", which is to be released September 21 - a little more than 2 weeks from now. Clint bamboozled Romney, and now he has bamboozled all of you.

Dunno, Beav. Are you suggesting that Eastwood purposely sabotaged the Romney campaign in a stunt to promote his movie? Sounds a bit farfetched.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Dunno, Beav. Are you suggesting that Eastwood purposely sabotaged the Romney campaign in a stunt to promote his movie? Sounds a bit farfetched.

He did not sabotage Romney's campaign. He pulled a stunt in front of a national TV audience and played a role and got people thinking of a shtick. Clint's movie will be the first one in which he has a lead role without him directing since 1993's "In The Line of Fire", in which he played yet another over the hill character, that one about an aging Secret Service agent. In "Trouble With The Curve", he plays an aging baseball scout on the cusp of retirement, taking his daughter on one last road trip. The movie is about competition with younger scouts, and his team (The Braves) believing he is over the hill and unable to adapt. People will be able to buy his character as a result of the brilliant performance at the RNC, setting up his role as an aging scout who is viewed by his team as a Dinosaur.

 

[lgna69xxx]

If you guys were not so biased, you would realise it was sheer brilliance as EB says. He (Eastwood) might of went on a little too long but all in all, it hits to the heart of common folks who look at Eastwood as "the man" so to speak, and THATS the voters the Romney campaign was/is trying to target, mission accomplished? Time will tell.

The dems can bash the "performance" all they want, but what matters most is if it hit a home run to the working middle class who's vote is huge to both parties.

See Libs, this is how you debate w/o having to directly insult one another, because that solves nothing.

Could be he looked at the chair, realized how stupid the schtick was and had trouble getting through it because it was so stupid.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

If you guys were not so biased, you would realise it was sheer brilliance as EB says. He (Eastwood) might of went on a little too long but all in all, it hits to the heart of common folks who look at Eastwood as "the man" so to speak, and THATS the voters the Romney campaign was/is trying to target, mission accomplished? Time will tell.

Then tell me why all of Romney's aides were trying to distance themselves from him yesterday. "I didn't invite him." "No, it wasn't me." "Not I."

You want to know why? Because he was a national embarrassment.

Usually, a candidate's convention gives him a bump in the polls. Not this time. Romney was a point behind before the convention; he's still behind.

 

[Doc Holliday]

The man with his name