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My 2 cents, not as old as Maurice Richard, much younger than him by 2 years.
Going to the gym has to be done in a positive optic and have pleasure. Also the gym has to be on your route and not out of the way, either wise you are not going to make it.
You can go for a Mr. Universe body with all the different shakes and supplements, or train a little and feel good with yourself.
Me I run 2-3 times a week, with 35-45km a week with longest runs around 20KM,and go to the gym 6-7 times a week and then rest
I also consult a nutritionist, not for the diet, but learn how to eat better, and get the proper food intake.
I do not take any protein shake, or supplement , fighting the last 2-3 lbs I would like to lose, otherwise all is good, close to the 170lbs
Onlt started going to the gym after 50 yrs old, weighed over 210lbs, 2 packs of cigarettes a day, 15 cokes a day ( NO Pepsi please) and lost 40lbs by just learning to eat correctly and couple years later started running, have over 60 : 1/2 marathons and 5 full marathons (42.2km) since then.
Yes I hired a physical trainer for the program in the beginning, but today love going to the gym and have not stopped in over 15 years.
Personally I don't believe in any kind of shakes, or supplement, but believe in overall balance in training, eating and fun, and never bring my phone inside the gym, so NO distractions.
Being in shape does not mean a 6 pack, and going to Popeye either.
Go to a gym where non muscle people go to , in the same age group, and find a time slot you like, and enjoy yourself.
For me it was the secret, and feel good today.
Not everyone can be Mr. Universe, not everyone can run, not everyone is in top shape, but trying and going to the gym a couple of times a week, can help.
And yes I go see my family doctor twice a year, just to make sure, I am good.
Last point, we need to make time, to be in shape, some days are good, some days are bad, sometimes its takes maybe a year to get to anther level, the point is , it does not happen overnight.

Find the enjoyment and you will feel good, my 2 cents
 

maymay

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My 2 cents, not as old as Maurice Richard, much younger than him by 2 years.
Going to the gym has to be done in a positive optic and have pleasure. Also the gym has to be on your route and not out of the way, either wise you are not going to make it.
You can go for a Mr. Universe body with all the different shakes and supplements, or train a little and feel good with yourself.
Me I run 2-3 times a week, with 35-45km a week with longest runs around 20KM,and go to the gym 6-7 times a week and then rest
I also consult a nutritionist, not for the diet, but learn how to eat better, and get the proper food intake.
I do not take any protein shake, or supplement , fighting the last 2-3 lbs I would like to lose, otherwise all is good, close to the 170lbs
Onlt started going to the gym after 50 yrs old, weighed over 210lbs, 2 packs of cigarettes a day, 15 cokes a day ( NO Pepsi please) and lost 40lbs by just learning to eat correctly and couple years later started running, have over 60 : 1/2 marathons and 5 full marathons (42.2km) since then.
Yes I hired a physical trainer for the program in the beginning, but today love going to the gym and have not stopped in over 15 years.
Personally I don't believe in any kind of shakes, or supplement, but believe in overall balance in training, eating and fun, and never bring my phone inside the gym, so NO distractions.
Being in shape does not mean a 6 pack, and going to Popeye either.
Go to a gym where non muscle people go to , in the same age group, and find a time slot you like, and enjoy yourself.
For me it was the secret, and feel good today.
Not everyone can be Mr. Universe, not everyone can run, not everyone is in top shape, but trying and going to the gym a couple of times a week, can help.
And yes I go see my family doctor twice a year, just to make sure, I am good.
Last point, we need to make time, to be in shape, some days are good, some days are bad, sometimes its takes maybe a year to get to anther level, the point is , it does not happen overnight.

Find the enjoyment and you will feel good, my 2 cents
Great you can still run, for me i have a bad knee so no running but yes i believe what ever effort you put in will pay off in any activity. thanks for sharing
 
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I want to send a big thank you to each and everyone of you, you have been amazing, i started this post with a simple question and i got so much more, from great dieting advise supplement and training.

You guys are simply awesome.
 

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Really depends on what you plan to do at the gym and what your location is

I only stay downtown/Plateau, so I don't know too much about Laval. In terms of econofitness downtown, they're all pretty crappy. So if you plan to use it when you're downtown, beware! I went to the one on Ave des Pins for a while when I was working around there. That location used to have 2 squat racks, but they got rid of one, so it's always a long wait. But they have a GHD machine, which most gyms don't have, so if you want that, it's great. (Again, depends on what you're looking for)

I also tried the Nautilus Plus locations. They're slightly cleaner, but the one in Montreal Trust is terrible. Their "flagship" one that opens until 11PM is very lacking in plates aand equpment. You have to spend 10 minutes walking around to collect weights.

I also went to ProGym to check out because I heard good things and it's great, very cheap, 24/7, and has a ton of equipment, but it's also a bit out of the way.

The YMCA's in Montreal have surprisingly good gyms. The one right near the Ritz has a pool, olympic platforms, etc.

If you don't have special things you need, and you're just looking to run on treadmills and use some free weights, any gym will do, to be honest. If you plan to squat though, I notice most econofitness only has 1 squat rack :( Not sure if Laval is the same
 
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Maurice Richard very very solid advise also very impressive that picture of you at 20 muscular and all wow. I wish i would have started training younger, a part from soccer and judo and some karate i was barely active after my teens, walking but i always ate well, and try not go gain too much weight. Back in 2000 when i tried low carb i had gained a bit, and it was like magic, stomach fat seem to be sucked out and it was fast like really fast.

Browsing YouTube i found an old video of Lou Ferrigno the hulk training for a comeback to competition in 1991, He was asked why he did not lift heavy he said listen i love bodybuilding i am 41 and for me its longevity, lifting heavy will take a toll on your body. That was such amazing advise.

The worse enemy now is uber eats and how people, even the young people give up on life. I work with young and older people we are all shift workers, most people eat junk, I seen young people who are not even 30 gain 80 to 100 pounds in 5 years, at 3am they got there big bag of McDonalds.

The young man i work with is 23, he as 3 bags of candy and 1 sandwich, i try to get him out there, remember when we were that age we were out partying, having fun meeting women but yet this young generation do nothing. Its scary.

Honest I feel that keto after reading on it and the 50y old women at my job being big on this too, she made me read a lot of stuff on this, is the best plan not only for older people but for younger ones, eating all that sugar is not good as you say, it causes a lot of negative in the body.

I am slowly switching to keto but will still drink my fruit smoothies berries and eat some nuts. I try to keep my carbs between 50 and 70g and most of it from fibre foods. Eggs are in, some bacon sometimes, weird you eat bacon and stay slim LOL but also calorie calorie eat keep an eye on those, fat free cheese, Greek yogurt, almond milk, and my vegetable soup.

Try to vary my meals and ordering is out, those prices 30$ for close to nothing and most of the time people at work tell me its not even good, forget it.
 

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My 2 cents, not as old as Maurice Richard, much younger than him by 2 years.
Going to the gym has to be done in a positive optic and have pleasure. Also the gym has to be on your route and not out of the way, either wise you are not going to make it.
You can go for a Mr. Universe body with all the different shakes and supplements, or train a little and feel good with yourself.
Me I run 2-3 times a week, with 35-45km a week with longest runs around 20KM,and go to the gym 6-7 times a week and then rest
I also consult a nutritionist, not for the diet, but learn how to eat better, and get the proper food intake.
I do not take any protein shake, or supplement , fighting the last 2-3 lbs I would like to lose, otherwise all is good, close to the 170lbs
Onlt started going to the gym after 50 yrs old, weighed over 210lbs, 2 packs of cigarettes a day, 15 cokes a day ( NO Pepsi please) and lost 40lbs by just learning to eat correctly and couple years later started running, have over 60 : 1/2 marathons and 5 full marathons (42.2km) since then.
Yes I hired a physical trainer for the program in the beginning, but today love going to the gym and have not stopped in over 15 years.
Personally I don't believe in any kind of shakes, or supplement, but believe in overall balance in training, eating and fun, and never bring my phone inside the gym, so NO distractions.
Being in shape does not mean a 6 pack, and going to Popeye either.
Go to a gym where non muscle people go to , in the same age group, and find a time slot you like, and enjoy yourself.
For me it was the secret, and feel good today.
Not everyone can be Mr. Universe, not everyone can run, not everyone is in top shape, but trying and going to the gym a couple of times a week, can help.
And yes I go see my family doctor twice a year, just to make sure, I am good.
Last point, we need to make time, to be in shape, some days are good, some days are bad, sometimes its takes maybe a year to get to anther level, the point is , it does not happen overnight.

Find the enjoyment and you will feel good, my 2 cents
All I have to say to you is congratulation, turning everything around and becoming an athlete, WOW, running marathon props to you and honest you should be a source of inspiration to other people, proof that it can be done with dedication.

Like I said I am new to this and excited, I guess i have everything in check now, I can't run like i said but i can walk (no excuse get out there do it), I go to the gym during my break at work usually 1-2am lol the gym is empty I love it, do my full body then walk the treadmill, but when i am out of the gym i don't stop there, i still keep active walking, climb stairs at work, etc. I try to get 30 minutes of walking on days off and more.

I live in an apartment now that i rent not sure if i want to buy a condo yet or not, i would have love to build a home gym but for now its impossible. Maybe when I retire some day.
 
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Maurice Richard very very solid advise also very impressive that picture of you at 20 muscular and all wow. I wish i would have started training younger, a part from soccer and judo and some karate i was barely active after my teens, walking but i always ate well, and try not go gain too much weight. Back in 2000 when i tried low carb i had gained a bit, and it was like magic, stomach fat seem to be sucked out and it was fast like really fast.

Browsing YouTube i found an old video of Lou Ferrigno the hulk training for a comeback to competition in 1991, He was asked why he did not lift heavy he said listen i love bodybuilding i am 41 and for me its longevity, lifting heavy will take a toll on your body. That was such amazing advise.

The worse enemy now is uber eats and how people, even the young people give up on life. I work with young and older people we are all shift workers, most people eat junk, I seen young people who are not even 30 gain 80 to 100 pounds in 5 years, at 3am they got there big bag of McDonalds.

The young man i work with is 23, he as 3 bags of candy and 1 sandwich, i try to get him out there, remember when we were that age we were out partying, having fun meeting women but yet this young generation do nothing. Its scary.

Honest I feel that keto after reading on it and the 50y old women at my job being big on this too, she made me read a lot of stuff on this, is the best plan not only for older people but for younger ones, eating all that sugar is not good as you say, it causes a lot of negative in the body.

I am slowly switching to keto but will still drink my fruit smoothies berries and eat some nuts. I try to keep my carbs between 50 and 70g and most of it from fibre foods. Eggs are in, some bacon sometimes, weird you eat bacon and stay slim LOL but also calorie calorie eat keep an eye on those, fat free cheese, Greek yogurt, almond milk, and my vegetable soup.

Try to vary my meals and ordering is out, those prices 30$ for close to nothing and most of the time people at work tell me its not even good, forget it.

Keto is great eating plan, for non athletes, it brings your carb level to the lowest form possible, but for people who want to play hockey, run or any energy required sport, it is not the right plan.
Example, a runner for example on a 1/2 marathon (21.1km) burns 2,000 calories approx. , and on a a Keto diet , would not be able to do it, or any sport that requires energy (carbs)
Diets are great, but a good nutritionist can teach you how to eat, base on the non-exercise or exercise life style you have, without giving up food that we love, but learning how to eat better, without costing a fortune.
The internet is full of advise of people who learned from other people on the net.
My 2 cents
 

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Browsing YouTube i found an old video of Lou Ferrigno the hulk training for a comeback to competition in 1991, .
in 77 2 pictures post #10
i posted i trained with bill grant mr world as well i was natural in 77
1977 california golds gym me and bill grant hdb.jpg
bill grant today at 77 still jacked

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but learnt the secret sauce from these guys
steroids were not a class 2 drug back then.
in fact was a dr who eventually got thrown out the country who got me and most of my friends into this
he did xtra billing cash back then a shot was $10 and he prescribed Danabol like candy
I met big lou in 1983 ,people actually called me hulk around same height as lou and he was 20 lbs heavier than me at the time

1985 i stopped bodybuilding(steroids) but kept training this was my best shape i looked facially and bodywise more than superman which in a lookalike thread i said
i was only taking a oral stanazol known as winstrol 2 mg tablets(like ben johnston took but i think he probably did the shots which were veterinary, and big doses as i heard he was squating in the 600s for sets and reps )
1 1985 feb  side chest - Copy.jpg
 
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no one can guess if their macros are met
use this free app you need a scale and its a pain in teh ass to weight everything but then you will know waht your missing or if you have too much
water by the way 1 mg= 1 ml i measuere my fluid intake so for my size its 3500 ml a day


i use this scale

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i inspried many members over the years to train Eagerbeaver being 1
True- back in 2013 I got my weight down to 170 in part due to training inspired by Maurice. The problem is I am not a natural walker but I am a natural foodie and I gained back all the weight lost, and then some. It's never too late to train and I am now motivated by having done it once before.

My biggest problem is the foodie within me which is like an unleashed monster at times. I have to find the right leash LOL
 
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Keto is great eating plan, for non athletes, it brings your carb level to the lowest form possible, but for people who want to play hockey, run or any energy required sport, it is not the right plan.
Example, a runner for example on a 1/2 marathon (21.1km) burns 2,000 calories approx. , and on a a Keto diet , would not be able to do it, or any sport that requires energy (carbs)
Diets are great, but a good nutritionist can teach you how to eat, base on the non-exercise or exercise life style you have, without giving up food that we love, but learning how to eat better, without costing a fortune.
The internet is full of advise of people who learned from other people on the net.
My 2 cents
This is from back in the days when i did low carb but there were variants, yes for athletes you can TKD, or CKD, those were popular back then eat carbs before and after an event, or carb up weekends.

Yes being in ketosis can be hell you need electrolytes to avoid keto flu this is coming back to me now, not I don't train like an animal nor do HIIT super intense cardio so, so far i am good.

Still i can't say i am keto because i eat more than 20g of carb per day, I just make sure to cut out junk food sugar, and replace with fiber and good carb source berries etc, and some nuts.

I would say 50g but never above 100g probably won't get in ketosis but not sure you have too. Its more about making better food choices replace high calorie empty foods with low calories better choice high in protein and low in carbs.
 
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in 77 2 pictures post #10
i posted i trained with bill grant mr world as well i was natural in 77
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bill grant today at 77 still jacked

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but learnt the secret sauce from these guys
steroids were not a class 2 drug back then.
in fact was a dr who eventually got thrown out the country who got me and most of my friends into this
he did xtra billing cash back then a shot was $10 and he prescribed Danabol like candy
I met big lou in 1983 ,people actually called me hulk around same height as lou and he was 20 lbs heavier than me at the time

1985 i stopped bodybuilding(steroids) but kept training this was my best shape i looked facially and bodywise more than superman which in a lookalike thread i said
i was only taking a oral stanazol known as winstrol 2 mg tablets(like ben johnston took but i think he probably did the shots which were veterinary, and big doses as i heard he was squating in the 600s for sets and reps )
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2008 i took a under the counter product called decatech which marc mcguire took i got big but gave me prostitis so avoid its a dht the bad testesterone i looked like a wwwf wrestler with the died blond hair
age 51 aint many people in their 50s who were jacked like that .
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below age 61 --after this dialed down the weights and focus more on cardio last 6 yrs

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i inspried many members over the years to train Eagerbeaver being 1 endless others
1 day ill be dead ass in the box
i worked a lifetime on training so obviously i am proud of it
Yes of course, but at some point its better to lift lighter weight and go for longevity. Avoid injuries and the damn issues that come with aging and pains.
 
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A lot of people at my job are sick, overweight, diabetes, some are cancer survivor, the other day a guy passed out and was 5 days in the hospital scary stuff.

I try to help a few people but they don't seem to care that is even scarier.

This was my main reason to get back into fitness, and change my eating habits. I don't want to be put on medication, if i can avoid diabetes, I need to get a full medical been a while.

You cannot prevent aging but i am sure with good habits you can prevent a lot of disease that come with aging.
 
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A lot of people at my job are sick, overweight, diabetes, some are cancer survivor, the other day a guy passed out and was 5 days in the hospital scary stuff.

I try to help a few people but they don't seem to care that is even scarier.

This was my main reason to get back into fitness, and change my eating habits. I don't want to be put on medication, if i can avoid diabetes, I need to get a full medical been a while.

You cannot prevent aging but i am sure with good habits you can prevent a lot of disease that come with aging.
exactly
at 67 my blood pressure is optimum and blood suger + cholesterol
i take no medication not even a tylenon in 3 years
my eye sight is 20/10 better than most
reason i started to train as a kid was girls which actually detracted me from a football career i had played 6 years then got into party ode out 7 days a week
back then endless woman never paid a cent.i didtn belive in buying strangers drinks to meet them
if i had a girlfriend i always paid everything all the time
as far as preventive measures if your over 60 id suggest a ct thorax scan with dye contrast neck to pelvis will detect everything
as welli just had my 4th colonoscopy in july-preventive as was family members who had this
full blood work
 

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exactly
at 67 my blood pressure is optimum and blood suger + cholesterol
i take no medication not even a tylenon in 3 years
my eye sight is 20/10 better than most
reason i started to train as a kid was girls which actually detracted me from a football career i had played 6 years then got into party ode out 7 days a week
back then endless woman never paid a cent.i didtn belive in buying strangers drinks to meet them
if i had a girlfriend i always paid everything all the time
as far as preventive measures if your over 60 id suggest a ct thorax scan with dye contrast neck to pelvis will detect everything
as welli just had my 4th colonoscopy in july-preventive as was family members who had this
full blood work
At 37 i got this test, funny you mention it, no everything was fine, but now at nearly 46 i need to get blood test, i was on the list to get a doctor for nearly 5 years they called last month finally got one, time to get checked.

I will admit that back then it was easier to get women, i did party a bit while younger, but mostly had girlfriends. I have been single for a while now maybe close to 8 months or so still talk to my ex, we did not end the relationship in bad terms she was a good women. But for dating, or finding someone else i don't know. I just enjoy my time training now loving it.
 

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still talk to my ex, we did not end the relationship in bad terms she was a good women.

Nice to read a brother that has good words for his ex, cudos. I can relate to that since even though we separated after more than 20+ years I will always say she gave me probably the best years of my life.
 

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Nice to read a brother that has good words for his ex, cudos. I can relate to that since even though we separated after more than 20+ years I will always say she gave me probably the best years of my life.
She was a good women, I have nothing bad to say about here, her 19y old daughter even came to live with us for 6 months after she got separated. We just grew apart, and decided to call it quits, but yeah we still text each other from time to time, she told me she met someone, I told her good for you hope things work out. For me I guess so far i feel good being alone.
 
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