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Siocnarf

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And if alternative legislation were proposed, what would it be?

The simplest tweak would be to decriminalize it for consenting adults, but retain criminalization of clients in case of ''human trafficking''. It would still remain legally vague but would make everyone breathe a little easier.

But I agree they won't touch it. They opposed it while they were the opposition, but now they are the government so they will do what governments do. The most they might do is say they are collecting data and studying the problem and stall for a few years. According to the bill the effect of the law has to be evaluated after 5 years anyway (4 years now). They can say they are waiting for that.
 

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Back to regular business or a new era for the country?

Pot becomes legal, no more aerial attacks in Syria,

Cancellation of the multi billion dollar F15 turkeys.

Taking the apparent disappearance of many native women seriously by creating an official commission of inquiry of some sort.

Holding off on new pipelines for now.

It will be interesting to see how the second youngest PM in Canadian history will manage these and other campaign intentions.

Apparently the new toll free Champlain Bridge may not be toll free after all due to legal and contractual reasons.
 

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For everyone here posting negative comments about a Liberal win don't you think judgement should be reserved until we see how this government actually handles the job of having a majority ? There are things about the Liberal platform I disagree with but I too will reserve judgement until I see where they go. If once they begin to govern you are in disagreement with where they are headed take the same time you put into bitching in this forum to actually putting pen to paper and writing to your member of parliament and or the Prime Minister. A letter can be mailed to each.......postage free :) There is a saying, "If you have nothing positive to say, say nothing !" I think it applies until there is a reason to actually say anything negative.
 

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For everyone here posting negative comments about a Liberal win don't you think judgement should be reserved until we see how this government actually handles the job of having a majority ? There are things about the Liberal platform I disagree with but I too will reserve judgement until I see where they go. If once they begin to govern you are in disagreement with where they are headed take the same time you put into bitching in this forum to actually putting pen to paper and writing to your member of parliament and or the Prime Minister. A letter can be mailed to each.......postage free :) There is a saying, "If you have nothing positive to say, say nothing !" I think it applies until there is a reason to actually say anything negative.

I agree with DoggyL. Don't judge the liberal government too soon. Yes, Trudeau is young but he is very charismatic and may be a very good leader.
Canadians were fed up of conservative values and they wanted a change. Now wait and see how this government will perform.
 

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Now wait and see how this government will perform.

I agree that we should closely monitor how the new Canadian government performs. In this regard, here is the list of the promises made by the Liberals during the election campaign. Let's see how they do:

1. To end Canada's participation in bombing raids on Iraq and Syria.
2. To sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, which covers conventional weaponry.
3. To bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by the end of this year.
4. To reinstitute family reunification in immigration.
5. To name an equal number of women and men to the cabinet.
6. To immediately launch a national public inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls in Canada.
7. To restore home delivery of mail.
8. To legalize and regulate access to marijuana.
9. To restore healthcare for refugees
10. To restore funding for CBC/Radio-Canada.
11. To restore the compulsory long form census.
12. To repeal the problematic elements of Bill C-51.
13. To repeal Bill C-36.
14. To scrap Harper's plan to increase the eligibility age for Old Age Security to 67 by 2023 from the current 65.
15. To create a special, all-party parliamentary committee to study alternatives to the current first-past-the-post electoral system, and, within 18 months, introduce legislation to replace first-past-the-post, based on the committee's recommendations
16. To repeal the anti-democratic elements in Stephen Harper's Fair Elections Act.
17. To restore the voter identification card as an acceptable form of identification.
18. To give Elections Canada the resources it needs to investigate voter fraud and vote suppression.
19. To encourage more Canadians to vote, by removing restrictions on the ways in which the Chief Electoral Officer and Elections Canada can communicate with voters.
20. To restore the independence of the Commissioner of Canada Elections, so that they are accountable to Parliament and not the government of the day.
21. To change the rules to allow people to dip into their RRSPs more than once to buy a home.
22. To reduce EI premiums to $1.65 per $100 earned from $1.88. That's less than the $1.49 rate that the Tories committed to in the 2015 budget, but the Liberals say the extra money would be reinvested, with $500 million going to the provinces for skills training.
23. To reduce wait times for a first EI payment to one week from two at a cost of $710 million.
24. To kill a planned toll system on a rebuilt Champlain Bridge in Montreal.
25. To help fund a Montreal rapid transit expansion, as well as a light-rail project on the Champlain Bridge linking Montreal to the suburban South Shore.
26. To bring in a merit-based appointment process for the Senate.
27. To get the Canada Revenue Agency to pro-actively inform Canadians who have failed to apply for benefits of their right to do so.
28. To end the Harper government's politically motivated harassment of charities.
29. To extend the federal access to information law to the Prime Minister’s and cabinet ministers' offices.
30. To institute parliamentary oversight, involving all parties in the House, of Canada's security agencies.
31. To appoint a commissioner to assure that all government advertising is non-partisan.
32. To end the odious and anti-parliamentary practice of stuffing disparate pieces of legislation into massive omnibus bills.
33. To have all Parliamentary committee chairs elected by the full House, by secret ballot. Currently committee chairs are purely partisan appointments of the Prime Minister.
34. To end Stephen Harper’s war on science
35. To make a major investment in on-reserve First Nations education, without imposing Harper's humiliating and draconian conditions on First Nations communities, all in the context of a renewed nation-to-nation relationship with Canada’s First Nations, Inuit and Métis people.
36. To find a consensus with the provinces to achieve real progress on greenhouse gas reductions.
37. To enact all the Truth and Reconciliation Commission recommendations.
38. To ban oil tanker traffic off the British Columbia coast, which would effectively kill the Northern Gateway pipeline project.
39. To protect the Great Lakes.
40. To fund the federal portion of the construction of 'Freedom Road' for the Shoal Lake 40 First Nation
41. To ensure that foreign workers have a realistic prospect of citizenship
42. To re-open the Kitsilano Coast Guard base.
43. To repeal the anti-union legislation C-377 and C-525.
44. To increase Canada Student Grants by 50 per cent to $3,000 a year. Allow students to wait until they're earning at least $25,000 a year before requiring them to start repaying student loans.
45. To impose new restrictions on marketing unhealthy food and drinks to children.
46. To spend $3 billion over four years on home care
47. To improve access to and reduce the cost of prescription medications through bulk purchasing.
48. To establish a pan-Canadian Expert Advisory Council on Mental Health.
49. To put up $200 million a year for three years to help research facilities, small business incubators and exporters
50. To invest $100 million a year for an industrial research assistance program.
51. To provide $380 million in additional funding for the arts.
52. To scrap the purchase of the F-35 fighter jet and instead buy cheaper planes to replace the aging CF-18s and use the savings to pay for offshore Arctic patrol vessels for the navy being built in Halifax.
53. To provide $1.5 billion for public transit in Calgary as well as unspecified financing for flood control measures in the city.
54. To give $500 million to the provinces for skilled trades training, and devote $200 million for federal training programs.
55. To set aside $50 million to help aboriginal people improve their skills and job prospects. 
56. To spend about $1.5 billion over four years on a youth job strategy to help 125,000 young people find a job.
57. To reinstate $40 million cut from the ocean science and monitoring program at the Department of Fisheries and Oceans. Increase protected marine and coastal areas to five per cent from 1.3 per cent by 2017, and to 10 per cent by 2020.
58. To increase federal infrastructure investment to almost $125 billion, from the current $65 billion, over the next decade. Provide new, dedicated funding to provinces, territories and municipalities for public transit, social infrastructure and green infrastructure.
59. To provide a refundable tax benefit of up to $150 for teachers who spend their own money on school supplies.
60. To spend $300 million a year to reform veterans' benefits and delivery of services to vets.
61. To make employment insurance compassionate care benefits available to anyone caring for a seriously ill family member and make the program more flexible by allowing the six-month benefit to be claimed in blocks of time over a year-long period.
62. To change labour laws to ensure that employees in federally regulated industries have the right to ask their bosses for flexible work hours.
63. To invest $200 million a year to develop clean technologies in forestry, fisheries, mining, energy and farming. Put another $100 million into organizations that promote clean technology
64. To lower the federal income tax rate to 20.5 per cent on incomes between $44,700 and $89,401, paying for it by raising taxes on the wealthiest one per cent.
65. To bring in a new, tax-free child benefit to replace the Conservative universal child benefit.
66. To add $515 million a year to funding for First Nations education, rising through the mandate to a total of $2.6 billion. Add another $500 million over three years for education infrastructure and $50 million more a year for a program that helps aboriginals in post-secondary education.

P.S. Please feel free to update the list if there are any promises that I missed.
 

gaby

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wow.....impressive work....thank you..very useful...will b interesting to see what will happen with all those promises.....surtout qu'elles ont été prises au début de la campagne alors qu'ils étaient loin d'être assurés de former le prochain gouvernement.. c'était alors facile de prendre de tels engagements....à suivre..
 

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I agree that we should closely monitor how the new Canadian government performs. In this regard, here is the list of the promises made by the Liberals during the election campaign. Let's see how they do:

1. To end Canada's participation in bombing raids on Iraq and Syria.
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13. To repeal Bill C-36
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P.S. Please feel free to update the list if there are any promises that I missed.

Just read 30 first ... lines ...
No need to go further as it is obvious that this was unfortunately just to gain attention from regular people....

Obviously in the end if only 25% of election campaign promises becomes reality ... that would be a real honest government.

Now the real question is... Does Justin Trudeau have the means to do all of his election campaign promises?
I seriously doubt it... but I want to be wrong on this lol

About C36... will see but I don't see Liberals touching this shit bag very soon...
Looks like another Bedford case is needed to go again to Supreme Court then open the legalization process for real.

I don't think it is anyway enforced in any way somewhere in Canada for regular Johns except maybe very conservative localisations.
Here in MTL nothing changed, I even noticed that the "prostitution" squad Eclipse is nowhere to be seen around Strip-clubs and Motels as it was 2-3y ago!

It is what it is. Politics is just bullshit This last election was only in fact to get rid of the shitty previous government ... as it is now very common in most Democratic countries...
 

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Just read 30 first ... lines ...
No need to go further as it is obvious that this was unfortunately just to gain attention from regular people....

Obviously in the end if only 25% of election campaign promises becomes reality ... that would be a real honest government.

Now the real question is... Does Justin Trudeau have the means to do all of his election campaign promises?
I seriously doubt it... but I want to be wrong on this lol

About C36... will see but I don't see Liberals touching this shit bag very soon...
Looks like another Bedford case is needed to go again to Supreme Court then open the legalization process for real.

I don't think it is anyway enforced in any way somewhere in Canada for regular Johns except maybe very conservative localisations.
Here in MTL nothing changed, I even noticed that the "prostitution" squad Eclipse is nowhere to be seen around Strip-clubs and Motels as it was 2-3y ago!

It is what it is. Politics is just bullshit This last election was only in fact to get rid of the shitty previous government ... as it is now very common in most Democratic countries...

Tell it like it is, tell it like it is my good man.:thumb:
 

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Besides increasing the deficit by billions....how is Trudeau`s government going to pay for all these new programs , increased spending and tax reductions.
The 1% who will move much of their taxable wealth (maybe even themselves) off-shore, or our grand kids?? To me its the same mistakes the Greek governments made 20- 30 years ago
 

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About C36... will see but I don't see Liberals touching this shit bag very soon...
Looks like another Bedford case is needed to go again to Supreme Court then open the legalization process for real.

Regarding C36. In the U.S. when newly elected governments try to use their victory to tackle very touchy issues right away it's a mistake. It often backfires badly. It rallies and fires up badly beaten opposition. It hardens the other side into effective opposition on many issues. Trudeau should not start by giving them something to rally around. He should only tell the LE to put C36 stuff further down the list of TDLs than it is already. Wait for the right case as you say.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Besides increasing the deficit by billions....how is Trudeau`s government going to pay for all these new programs , increased spending and tax reductions.
The 1% who will move much of their taxable wealth (maybe even themselves) off-shore, or our grand kids?? To me its the same mistakes the Greek governments made 20- 30 years ago

That is an interesting statement, I am guessing the same way the pitiful Liberals are doing in Ontario with tax increases to all ( Nice 3 million tax dollar bribe money your glorious leader just gave the unions ). Thinking that the rich will pay for your free stuff is laughable, they have accountants that can easily hide their money ( my accountant showed me a great way to lower my tax bracket and I am not even rich ) and when JT can not get his money from them he will get it from you. The carbon tax and cap & trade will be passed on to you from big business.
To all the Harper haters, what are you going to do when things are worse in 2 - 3 years, send flowers to Harper :lol:? Expecting free stuff from the hard working is not going to work, you may actually have do do something on your own.
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Just an added note: In the news this morning, Oct.29.... JT is asking Wynne for advice on how to run ( ruin ) Canada, fuckin funny, she managed to bankrupt Ontario and is now being asked for advice from the boy. Also for those of you who claimed more money in your pockets now.... JT just announced a CCP increase that will cost everyone on the average of $852 a year..... Wait but there will be more....
 

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It is now 3 days into the Trudeau's mandate. Here is the status so far:

Promises kept:
5. To name an equal number of women and men to the cabinet.
11. To restore the compulsory long form census.

Next ones to watch for:
6. To immediately launch a national public inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls in Canada.
3. To bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by the end of this year.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
Besides increasing the deficit by billions....how is Trudeau`s government going to pay for all these new programs , increased spending and tax reductions.
The 1% who will move much of their taxable wealth (maybe even themselves) off-shore, or our grand kids?? To me its the same mistakes the Greek governments made 20- 30 years ago


Too late, open your wallet.
 

CaptRenault

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Can and will the "new" government (projected to be led by Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party) repeal or gut Bill C-36?

...The smart political choice is for the liberals to say they opposed c-36 but it is the law of the land unless the courts overturn it. No sane politician would dare touch this issue legislatively...

I agree with Patron's pre-election analysis of the chances that the Liberals will do anything about C-36. The new justice minister addressed the issue last week with a deliberately vague and ambiguous statement:

She also said the government would look at possible changes to Bill C-36, the anti-prostitution law passed by the Harper government after the Supreme Court in its 2013 Bedford decision struck down the existing law on the sex trade. The new legislation aimed at discouraging prostitution is seen as unconstitutional by some who say it will endanger sex workers.

“We’ve had some preliminary discussions around the Bedford decision and how we approach it more broadly, and . . . that is going to involve having substantive discussions with people who are fundamentally impacted by this. And that’s something that we’re definitely going to look into and have further to say on that,” Wilson-Raybould told CBC.

Possible changes? Preliminary discussions? Approach it more broadly? Substantive discussions with people who are fundamentally impacted by this? Something that we’re definitely going to look into? :rolleyes:

Though the new justice minister wanted to make it sound she will be putting a lot of thought into the issue, I would be very surprised to see the Trudeau government take any action on C-36 anytime soon.
 
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