enough with the office de francaise

[stoneeca]

this is montreal one of the greatest cities in the world

year after year we lost our docters our nurses

there are no more head offices

they change street signs faster than we can blink

now they are starting on the bub downtown

as the few anglos that are left

as merb viewer we should get together and complain bigtime

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Raw le bowl day anglos rawlers

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29693

 

[AllOverHer]

this is montreal one of the greatest cities in the world

It is because of the cachet she got. Yes to me Montreal is a women. I've been told that's there's a french song about that.

Do you really think we need another Toronto. French girls all the way baby

so nah I'm not joining your group

 

[joelcairo]

Be thankful for the Office de la langue francaise. If it did not exist, the government would be forced to spend money on health care, education, crime prevention, infrastructure and job creation. By pouring its money into the Office all those other worries are forgotten and we have the added bonus that we can brag about having the highest taxes in North America.

 

[urtus]

C'est quoi le message?

C'est quoi le message? Nous ne sommes pas assez bon pour pourvoir nous affirmer. La pauvre minorité anglaise réduite à l'état d'esclavage à Montréal?
À cause de cela, le Québec va à sa perte? Plus on va s'affirmer, plus on nous respectera. Prend le présent site, dédié à la population Montréalaise essentiellement, non? Presques toutes les discussions s'y font en anglais, isn't it? Pourquoi, parce que les pauvres anglophones sont martyrisés au Québec. C'est la source de tous les maux... logique plutôt approximative à mon avis.

Pour ma part, j'en ai marre des gens qui nous disent que parce qu'on veut prendre notre place, nous en sommes punis. Soumettez vous, tremblez mortels, et vous aurez la salut économique. Redevenez le nègre blanc d'Amérique d'autrefois, et vous aurez la paix.

De toute façon, ce sujet est hors contexte pour ce site.

Nous vaincrons.

 

[anon_vlad]

Quel borné

Urtus:>> s'affirmer, plus on nous respectera.
Est-ce qu'il est possible de s'affirmer et se respecter sans ennuyer les autres?

>>dédié à la population Montréalaise
C'est plutôt une site Web faite à Toronto pour les visiteurs à Montréal. Pensez-vous que les discussions ici au sujet de Costa Rica doivent être poursuivi en espagnol? Qui vous empêche de créer une site en français si l'existence d'une site qui parle de Montréal qui n'est pas majoritairement en français est intolerable?

>>C'est la source de tous les maux
Agissez comme un adult et prenez responsibilité. C'est la majorité francophone qui dirige le Québec. Il n'est pas seulement la faute de la faible minorité anglophone que, par exemple, les impots sont si élevés, les rues et les hôpitals si minables!

>>De toute façon, ce sujet est hors contexte pour ce site.
Comme vous êtez borné! Vous dites votre parole et invitez les autres de se taire!

>>Nous vaincrons
A quoi? L'existence elle-même de la loi 101 demontré que vous n'êtez pas subjugué!

 

[AllOverHer]

Be thankful for the Office de la langue francaise. If it did not exist, the government would be forced to spend money on health care, education, crime prevention, infrastructure and job creation. By pouring its money into the Office all those other worries are forgotten and we have the added bonus that we can brag about having the highest taxes in North America.

I read some stupid stuff but this is the cake.
Do you have any numbers to back your point.

 

[anon_vlad]

AllOverHer, joelcairo's comments are a gross exaggeration. The cost of employing civil servants to enforce Bill 101 is not even 1% of 1% of the expenditures on Health, Education, infrastructure etc.

However, the debate will never end as to whether the adoption of the language laws was a significant factor for the hundreds of thousands of Anglos who left Quebec, the moving of head offices and other businesses etc. since Bill 101 and its predecessor Bill 22. Even if it were universally conceded that the language laws have had an adverse effect on the tax base, the debate as to whether it was worth it to the majority will also never be resolved.

Quebec governments have fallen or been elected on the issues of nationalism and language. It would be, in my opinion, a refreshing and beneficial change if taxes and services became the only issues of relevance to voters.

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Office de la langue francaise spent 850 017 according to this report in French.

A drop in the ocean.

 

[jimmy]

Office de la langue francaise spent 850 017$ according to this report in French.

I don't know what the provincal budget is for the OLF, but that figure is quite small compare to others. What I noticed is they seem to back off when the defendent threaten to go to court. Imagine if they were to fight a dozen of court case a year? It would cost tax payer more than this.
My personal opinion is that the OLF should ease up on the law. I agree that exterior signs and interieur signs which pertains to the business such as menus product descriptions etc... should be in French, but I don't think that they should pick on every little dinky signs.
Also, the OLF said that they only investigate if there is a complaint. If there is no complaint, they leave it as it is. What's the point in that? It's just pure harassment. It's either they enforce the law equally on all businesses or they don't.

 

[jimmy]

Correct me if I'am wrong, but I believe that according to the language law, any other language that dominate is fine as long as there is no English. I mean, sometimes when I goto Chinese restaurants, there are menus on the wall, but all in Chinese.

 

[CaptainPicard]

What's the problem?...

Why can't all businesses in Québec serve their customers in french, post french signs, etc...?
Is demanding that businesses in Québec respect the language of the majority of their customers, too much to expect?
Captain out!

 

[wilko26]

Why can't all businesses in Québec serve their customers in french, post french signs, etc...?
Is demanding that businesses in Québec respect the language of the majority of their customers, to much to expect?
Captain out!

Right on I totally agree with that!

Comme je dit a tout le monde qui chiale sur ce genre de truc.... si vous êtes pas content déménager en ontario ya rien qui vous retiens! C'est comme ça depuis des années vous venez de vous reveiller? bravo!

 

[anon_vlad]

Is demanding that businesses in Québec respect the language of the majority of their customers, too much to expect?

I agree completely, but don't see the reason why the government should need to be involved in today's Quebec. I can't imagine that a business could survive if all Francophones do what I think is their civic duty and immediately walk out if there is any difficulty obtaining service in French after registering a complaint with the manager.

 

[joelcairo]

I read some stupid stuff.

Of course you do, but do you ever understand any of it?

 

[Kepler]

Why can't all businesses in Québec serve their customers in french, post french signs, etc...?
Is demanding that businesses in Québec respect the language of the majority of their customers, too much to expect?
Captain out!

A private business should be allowed to have all it's signs in Swahili if it wants. If the customers really care, then they will not shop there, and the business will close. That's how it's supposed to work in a really free country.

But the truth is, only language extremists really care, and they seek to impose their point of view through laws.

 

[mtwallet]

A private business should be allowed to have all it's signs in Swahili if it wants. If the customers really care, then they will not shop there, and the business will close. That's how it's supposed to work in a really free country.

But the truth is, only language extremists really care, and they seek to impose their point of view through laws.

Kepler, I couldn't agree more. If the owner thinks that the risk of limiting his/her customer base is worth taking, then that's their choice. If they received a Gvt grant, then it would be another matter entirely.

CaptPicard, if businesses were to respect the language of the majority of it's customers, then there are many areas of Mtl that you wouldn't find french or english.

Smack Appeal, my experiences may be outdated now, but I know for a fact that not too long ago, the OLF hired students, and gave them cameras to document violations. They weren't permenant employees, but there was a hell of a lot more than just 4 of them.

Dee got it dead on though. It truly is a shame that language can screw up such a great city, and beautiful province.

 

[Mike Mercury]

Est-ce qu'il est possible de s'affirmer et se respecter sans ennuyer les autres?

Malheureusement non. C'est paradoxal mais c'est ça.

 

[urtus]

Confirmation

Au moindre désir de nous tenir debout, on nous accuse d'être émotif... d'être des extrémistes, alors que nous sommes tout le contraire.

Je ne désire pas en discuter davantage. J'ai émis mon opinion, qui demeure intact. La nature de certaines réponses prouvent effectivement mes théories.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Hey Mazingerz

You say you are a unilingual Francophone? Guess again, you are a BILINGUAL *****- and a very ******** one at that. How do you explain this post, you ****:

Hi. I am visited this site http://www.montrealescorts.com/montreal_escorts.htm and I ask if someone already try one or more of these girls:

- Sofia (the sofia who stand 5'9" and not Sofia A)
- Natasha (of Bodylicious)
- Angelina
- Lesly
- Carolina
- Sexy Olivia
- Sharon

All interest me but I wait for comment for knowing who taking.

Did the ghost of your Anglophone grandmother sneak in the window to your bedroom and make that post?

The truth is you are capable of posting in English as I previously told everyone on this Board, and I am pretty sure this was not the only one (your probably deleted a lot of others in chickenshit fashion). The fact is you don't want to share info with anglophone posters. You have an agenda to taunt them and consistently do so. You are a complete and total *****, your signature is a fraud, and you should be suspended for being an *****, ********* ***** who has an agenda on this Board which is to inflame the language debate.