je me pogne avec une swerf sur reddit par rapport à ça, le monde me désespère
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I’m sorry things like this has happened to you, too. It’s not that difficult to ask for consent or limits. You wouldn’t expect this behavior as a chiropractor, a personal trainer or even a boxing sparring partner.
Of course not. All I'm saying is things like this can and do happen in this industry. I also think that there are some areas of the industry where you're more likely to experience this.. depending on who you are.
I understand your point about not wanting to go through the booking process with an indy and I myself feel really burned out by the whole thing. That's why sometimes I work at massage parlours because that isn't part of the process.. the difference is that I have other people around me and I don't have to offer full GFE to multiple people in a row. Unlike at an agency
On en revient toujours au problème de la criminalisation de la prostitution c'est pas nouveau mais ça reste la meilleure façon de supprimer toute criminalité relative à l'activité. Tant qu'on abordera pas le sujet dans ce sens on tournera en rond dans la discussion.
Tu veux dire, la décriminalisation?
De criminalisation depenalisation. Les termes génèrent des débats sans fin en fait ce que je veux dire c'est que tant que l'activité est plus ou moins qualifiée d illégale, il y aura forcément des discussions sur le fait qu'elle est contrôlée par des criminels. Lors de la prohibition la vente d'alcool était contrôlé par la mafia. Depuis c'est plus le cas.
Mais oui on parle de la même chose.
Mais oui on parle de la même chose.
I understand and agree with you that it is far less hassle and easier to see women that work for an agency.
Unfortunately many Independent escorts do make it difficult and cumbersome to see them and some of their booking processes are a nightmare and many are not dependable to actually show up at agreed upon appointments.
All this doesn’t change the fact that agencies are nothing more than glorified pimps and yes it has gotten better that at least girls actually choose to work for them and are usually free to leave although that may not always be the case as alleged aggressive pressure and threats by XO were reported when girls tried to leave.
Personally I won’t use agencies as I don't want to be one of 5 or 10 or even one of 3 clients that day and I will not support pimps making money off women no matter how they try to convince people that they are providing a service to these women and helping them get clients, that is all BS and it is all about $$$.
I don’t mind paying more to see an independent who is reputable and who actually shows up to agreed upon appointments.
Ce que je trouve intéressant c'est que la police n'a pas une réelle envie ou motivation de démanteler les agences sinon ce serait fait depuis un moment ce n'est probablement pas super compliqué. Ce qui semble arriver c'est une pression de la société civile via les médias pour agir dans ce sens. Pas d'intérêt par contre pour discuter de la nature de ce métier qui est censé être le plus vieux du monde. En tout cas assez peu dans les médias dits traditionnels
Les termes sont importants. Légalisation vs décriminalisation ce n'est pas la même chose. Le gouvernement n'a pas les connaissances nécessaires pour gérer ce marché, et beaucoup de travailleuses seraient pénalisées si le travail était contrôlé.
Tu as certainement raison et je ne voulais pas forcément aller dans cette direction en fait mais le fait est que ne pas prendre de décisions sur ce métier en terme de légalité c'est juste se mettre là tête dans le sable
Justement. Ça ne sera pas le point de vue présenté ce soir. Les filles sont des victimes innocentes et il faut abolir la prostitution. Ça marche tellement bien pour la drogue!
I work through an agency, and I personally couldn’t see myself working independently. Keyword here is « personally ». What is good for me might not be good for another person. They manage my appointments, and that works perfectly for me. I’m comfortable there, I choose my own schedule and breaks, and I can ban a client if I want to.
Have I had less-than-pleasant experiences? Yes. Was that the agency’s fault? No. It was the fault of the person who didn’t respect my boundaries, and the exact same thing could have happened if I had been working independently. When it happened, I ended my day. No one forced me to stay. They asked me what had happened so they could make sure it wouldn’t happen again. I’ve taken days off when I was originally supposed to work. I’ve shortened my shifts when I was scheduled for longer hours. It’s a business relationship, whether people like it or not, and it needs to be treated as such.
I think it’s low-quality journalism to only highlight negative experiences. There is a significant difference between “glorifying the profession” and portraying it in the most sordid way possible. I also think it’s highly unethical not to address the agencies that actually use really coercive practices. Either tell the whole story, or don’t tell it at all.
Let’s not forget that there are always multiple sides to a story. I absolutely agree that some agencies are truly horrific, and I genuinely feel for the people who have gone through those experiences. I used to work at a salon, and was treated awfully for many years. It is not about what you do, it is about who you’re collaborating with, their respect towards you and your respect towards them.
At the end of the day, everyone is free to make their own decisions—whether that means working through an agency, working independently, or leaving the industry altogether.
Have I had less-than-pleasant experiences? Yes. Was that the agency’s fault? No. It was the fault of the person who didn’t respect my boundaries, and the exact same thing could have happened if I had been working independently. When it happened, I ended my day. No one forced me to stay. They asked me what had happened so they could make sure it wouldn’t happen again. I’ve taken days off when I was originally supposed to work. I’ve shortened my shifts when I was scheduled for longer hours. It’s a business relationship, whether people like it or not, and it needs to be treated as such.
I think it’s low-quality journalism to only highlight negative experiences. There is a significant difference between “glorifying the profession” and portraying it in the most sordid way possible. I also think it’s highly unethical not to address the agencies that actually use really coercive practices. Either tell the whole story, or don’t tell it at all.
Let’s not forget that there are always multiple sides to a story. I absolutely agree that some agencies are truly horrific, and I genuinely feel for the people who have gone through those experiences. I used to work at a salon, and was treated awfully for many years. It is not about what you do, it is about who you’re collaborating with, their respect towards you and your respect towards them.
At the end of the day, everyone is free to make their own decisions—whether that means working through an agency, working independently, or leaving the industry altogether.
Les prisons tiennent avec de la broche à foin! Ils donnent des sentences à purger à la maison pour des crimes bien plus graves.
If it were just to pay a bit more and the service matches meaning it is 100% GFE then I would use Indys but the whole jumping hoops to book one is a big no for me. I do not use this much either way, I am more for stripper take outs or SA type of thing. I just use agencies when I want a quick booking to have some variety other then that the novelty quickly wears off. I might use agencies a few times a year. Either way like you said, the girls have the choice to walk away no one is forcing them to stay. They are explained how it works during their interview process. With that same logic all employers are pimps also, employees work while the corporation take most of the profits and give a small portion to employees.
Tu peux choisir d'être une travailleuse du sexe et quand même être victime de violence et d'exploitation.. Je pense qu'on mérite le contexte et la nuance, mais il ne faut pas oublier ça. Présenter l'industrie d'une façon vraiment grotesque et exagérée, au final ça blesse les TDS parce que justement les gens veulent que la prostitution soit abolie. Mais dire ''cette fille est une menteuse'' ou ''elle joue à la victime et devrait se retirer de l'industrie si elle n'est pas contente, elle ne devrait pas chialer, elle savait bien que ces risques existaient'' comme certains le font, ce n'est pas mieux.
Là tout le monde a peur de perdre son emploi et sa crédibilité. Ça fait juste qu'on ne peut plus se permettre d'être honnête.
Honestly I don't get why this is turning into a ''agency vs indy'' debate because it just shouldn't. Everyone deserves good working conditions, whether they work for an agency, independently or at a MP. Also the industry as a whole has issues, and I understand why people single out agencies because they are extremely popular and they truly set the standard in Montreal, from what I've realized.
Corporations fuck you a different way lol.
Good thing is you make your own luck in life and choose where and what type of work you want to do.
In a country like Canada you can decide your future.
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