Euphoria agency in the news
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And now we`re getting a steady stream of "where is XYZ now that it`s closed". The memes are writing themselves...
I planned to go to Montreal tomorrow and see a few girls from Euphoria but all my plans are now ruined
I have a few observations regarding this topic that I find interesting:
The way they frame the situation in their "investigation", is that many of the girls are basically manipulated by agency bosses to join and stay and take 100s of clients, now we see most of them seeking to join new agencies by themselves in less than 24 hrs since their agency closed, so this basically contradicts the story that they are being forced to do this job.
A second interesting point is that if it was necessary to literally mention the exact locations of the condos, this makes me think this was somehow specifically targeted at euphoria.... Like why they did not censor that information.i mean it is not a secret as any person can fake a booking request and get them, but why specifically mentioned it during the video???
(So my theory is that police will not persue anyone from euphoria but they are somehow saying hey we know where you meet and we know how the system works, to discourage people from using agencies)
Also they claim they are doing this to help the girls in the industry, however they are then exposing the pictures of their bodies in massive communication media.. is that ethical?? I know the faces are blurred in the pics and is public information in the web but then if they really care about the girls, why expose photos of their bodies without consent.
The way they frame the situation in their "investigation", is that many of the girls are basically manipulated by agency bosses to join and stay and take 100s of clients, now we see most of them seeking to join new agencies by themselves in less than 24 hrs since their agency closed, so this basically contradicts the story that they are being forced to do this job.
A second interesting point is that if it was necessary to literally mention the exact locations of the condos, this makes me think this was somehow specifically targeted at euphoria.... Like why they did not censor that information.i mean it is not a secret as any person can fake a booking request and get them, but why specifically mentioned it during the video???
(So my theory is that police will not persue anyone from euphoria but they are somehow saying hey we know where you meet and we know how the system works, to discourage people from using agencies)
Also they claim they are doing this to help the girls in the industry, however they are then exposing the pictures of their bodies in massive communication media.. is that ethical?? I know the faces are blurred in the pics and is public information in the web but then if they really care about the girls, why expose photos of their bodies without consent.
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I saw the investigation. They mix 2 things. Victims of sex trade and these girls who are adults and decide to go in that industry. At some point you gotta take accountability for the poor choices you make. If I jump from airplane skydiving there is always the risk of dying squashed like a bug. Same goes there if I go there and get naked with a man I don't know there is always the risk of not pleasant things happening. It can't always be good.
No one is coercing these girls to go day after day, they do have the choice to stop and go work at mcdonalds. In essence, the investigation is just saying that adult women are manipulated into doing this, the same way you can manipulate a kid, which is just absurd to me.
No one is coercing these girls to go day after day, they do have the choice to stop and go work at mcdonalds. In essence, the investigation is just saying that adult women are manipulated into doing this, the same way you can manipulate a kid, which is just absurd to me.
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Read the following update from the "Enquête" report:
La Presse
Le SPVM bonifie ses ressources en lutte à l'exploitation sexuelle
It follows the same MO since the past 15 years, the clients are the predators and the SWs are the victims and no girl will voluntarily work as a SW so all were coerced into it. It is like stripclubs whenever there is a violent event in one they publicly expose the club like they did with Doric but when it concerns a corporation they cover it up and make the details vague. This is done on purpose. The feminists want it all shut down. They do not care about the girls just to push their ideology and the politicians to please their voting base and the media is aligned with the MO.
Nothing will change.
An agency will close down a new one will open.
The way of reporting is always the same. All women are portrayed as victims and men as predators this is what sells.
Indies will continue and so will agencies but it is always best to be cautious and to do your homework as LE might step up investigations and stings for a while and then it will die down and things will go back to normal and we will have the yearly fan fare during the F1.
An agency will close down a new one will open.
The way of reporting is always the same. All women are portrayed as victims and men as predators this is what sells.
Indies will continue and so will agencies but it is always best to be cautious and to do your homework as LE might step up investigations and stings for a while and then it will die down and things will go back to normal and we will have the yearly fan fare during the F1.
Prostitution is a huge industry and it’s not going anywhere….until the government gets us some of them fancy new ai sex robots. Then like maybe it’ll cut some of spending from escorts to robots. But I’d say this…”all you ladies are irreplaceable”. I love you all soooo much….even if it’s only an hour at a time
I wish I was a vice cop. Get to book a bunch of sessions on the taxpayers dime. Can’t wait to read the police reports. “ I booked for an hour, got bbjwcimws for an extra $100…best money I’ve ever spent….i mean paid by taxpayers …escort was unreal…..I can see why they are so popular….must see all escorts to do full report…will continue investigating for next three years or more until I investigate all of the workers”
Why do those stupid journalists keep writing articles that undermine an ancient industry that dates back to primitive times?
Prostitution exists under every regime: capitalist, communist, theocratic, monarchist, and even in an anarchist state
I think it's important to remember that even if sex workers are technically viewed as "victims" in this system we are not looked at with kind eyes by these people. There are no "feminists" coming to our rescue and taking us out of the industry lol this is just simply not true. Clients are also not victims.
The government simply doesn't care that much about sex workers and their clients. That's the truth. They see us as trash. Nobody actually wants to "save us" and we don't want to be saved. We want better laws that's all.
If anything this "documentary" proved that even victims of violence in this industry and all sex workers are almost used like circus animals by the media. It's a farce. It's fucking embarassing. If most clients are that cruel, then we must be crazy and masochistic for staying there... Honestly it's just not the truth.
The government simply doesn't care that much about sex workers and their clients. That's the truth. They see us as trash. Nobody actually wants to "save us" and we don't want to be saved. We want better laws that's all.
If anything this "documentary" proved that even victims of violence in this industry and all sex workers are almost used like circus animals by the media. It's a farce. It's fucking embarassing. If most clients are that cruel, then we must be crazy and masochistic for staying there... Honestly it's just not the truth.
After reading that article, I am a little more pessimistic about the future of the escort business in Montreal. While the shutdown of XO and Euphoria may not be direct results of the "government action plan on sexual exploitation" that is referred to in the article, it seems like the momentum is shifting in the battle between the prostitution abolitionists and supporters of a tolerant attitude towards the industry. The abolitionists have now tasted blood and they want more and they have been given more resources to pursue their goals. While they say they want to mainly stop any negative industry practices (underage girls, pimping, violence, etc.), they really want to abolish prostitution completely or greatly diminish the size of the industry.
The agency model of business is the most vulnerable to attack by the abolitionists. The Enquete episode provides the perfect script for how to shut down an agency. The police, the press and abolitionist groups such as CLES do not have to shut down every agency. They just have to harass, intimidate and scare the owners, escorts and clients of a few high profile agencies and that will kill off most of the agencies. This is what happened to the agency business in most states of the U.S. including the state where I live in the southeast.
However, it's probably impossible to kill off the indy business and it may even help the indy business by making it the only acceptable way to operate. Some girls who now work in agencies will switch to indy but many agency girls are either not interested in working as an indy or not really capable of running their own business. The result will be lower supply, higher prices and much less convenient booking procedures for the client.
I hope I'm wrong about all this, but it feels like a new era is dawning in the sex business in Montreal.
It's really hard to be independent in this industry.. it's simply not that easy. It's like having your own business... I don't feel "helped" as an Indy that agencies are targeted. I actually feel worried.
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