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Maya was hot... a bit high-maintenance, but fun to work with nonetheless...
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Maya was hot... a bit high-maintenance, but fun to work with nonetheless...
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Does anyone know of a movie titled "When They're Out". It was produced in late 70's. Not a US made porn, but it could be European(maybe Dutch or German, but I'm not sure). The dialogue was in English.
I only saw a preview of it and when I went to go to see it, but bthey pulled it from the theater due to the subject matter (brother-sister incest relationship). I've googled it but can not find it.
The production value was typical classic porn of 70's. and everyone once in a while I wanted to find out if anyone had seen (or know of) it it as well.
I only saw a preview of it and when I went to go to see it, but bthey pulled it from the theater due to the subject matter (brother-sister incest relationship). I've googled it but can not find it.
The production value was typical classic porn of 70's. and everyone once in a while I wanted to find out if anyone had seen (or know of) it it as well.
Thanks, bro...
Montreal girls remind me of Euro girls... probably why I enjoy MTL so much...
:lol:Regards budThanks, bro...
Montreal girls remind me of Euro girls... probably why I enjoy MTL so much...
Booker
I am not that much into euro porn, maybe because i am not attracted to anal, dp and gaping and all of these wich seem to be more the norm in europe. Also i do think some exotic looking europeen are very beautifull BUT i am personally a fan of the american blond fake tits look.. so well...
What turn me off in euro porn is too much girls speak so badly in english they sound retarded... Its hard to explain but i often see this and too much its a turn off, i have the impression the girl is mentally retarded and some dude is abusing her, altough its not the case. Its really hard to explain... And when they speak in there language... got to read the subtitles... wich is also annoying.
Anyway lots of people prefer euro stuff because its just more naughty. Euro girls in general do anal, lots of them, in american porn its more a "big thing" . You see a lot of crazy stuff in europe too that you don't see in the states anymore.
Now for Quebec Porn, i really like to watch it mostly because i "know" these girls, as in i met some of them, had sex with some of them, there accesible if i can say... and thats arousing. When i watch an amy lee or kelly summer video, it remind me of my time with them... and so on... if i watch other girls i hope maybe one day ill meet them. Damn condoms are really annoying in quebec porn tough, its one thing in the escort world, i understand that its nessessary, but in porn i prefer it to be condom free. I think the worst part is those ad4 videos like the guylaine gagnon ones where they use condom for BJs... cmon.
After that, well our porn in general is a smaller biz, so its understandable you can't get what the american or europeen does, its more casual, more 1 on 1. I really get attracked to it because of the girls themselves, not the set up or concepts.
What turn me off in euro porn is too much girls speak so badly in english they sound retarded... Its hard to explain but i often see this and too much its a turn off, i have the impression the girl is mentally retarded and some dude is abusing her, altough its not the case. Its really hard to explain... And when they speak in there language... got to read the subtitles... wich is also annoying.
Anyway lots of people prefer euro stuff because its just more naughty. Euro girls in general do anal, lots of them, in american porn its more a "big thing" . You see a lot of crazy stuff in europe too that you don't see in the states anymore.
Now for Quebec Porn, i really like to watch it mostly because i "know" these girls, as in i met some of them, had sex with some of them, there accesible if i can say... and thats arousing. When i watch an amy lee or kelly summer video, it remind me of my time with them... and so on... if i watch other girls i hope maybe one day ill meet them. Damn condoms are really annoying in quebec porn tough, its one thing in the escort world, i understand that its nessessary, but in porn i prefer it to be condom free. I think the worst part is those ad4 videos like the guylaine gagnon ones where they use condom for BJs... cmon.
After that, well our porn in general is a smaller biz, so its understandable you can't get what the american or europeen does, its more casual, more 1 on 1. I really get attracked to it because of the girls themselves, not the set up or concepts.
Some porn models are paid per scenes DP is the most Paid scene it what you have mentioned ,European ladies have some of the biggest natural breast around at the moment
Have a SP from Beauce Qc or Lac St-Jean you will get over it !LOL:lol:
I love anal not just in porn, live and double stuffed holes also
For your eyes only Sweet Amy -Lee in a DP scenes http://www.xvideos.com/video7441027/amy_lee_in_diabolic_2_on_1_12,
Enjoy
Cheers
Booker
Please don't take this the wrong way, HM, but for such a self-proclaimed porn fanatic, you often have a shortsighted view on porn. Euro porn isn't just about anal, gaping, and DP. One of my favorite Hungarian girls who is now retired did only a couple of anal scenes her entire career. And the percentage of anal girls have dropped. FWIW, the Euro girls work harder for less money than their American counterparts. I've been lucky on both continents to not have any clock watchers, but I do see fewer across the pond in general. I worked with a very sexy Romanian girl who off camera was very MTL GFE-like. I had to change tape and she just wanted to keep fucking...
And I disagree on the bad English thing... Badly spoken English with a Czech, French, Hungarian, Russian, Romanian, or even good English with a British accent turns me on as much as a Quebecoise SP with a French accent or almost no English skills. Sexy as fuck!!! Subtitles? Why the fuck do I want to read what they are saying? I care more about HOW she says, "eh bien, oui" than the subtleties of its meaning :lol:
Hum look, i just implied MY personal view on euro porn. I watch some of it, a great lot actually in my years. Is true the euro are more open minded , and i am not saying there is nothing good. There is some great euro actresses. One i always like was Angel Dark wich seem to have finally retired lately (well been a while i saw anything new) BUT i always seem to come back mostly to american stuff. Lately i watch a bunch of fake agent, czechcasting and such, and yeah there stuff i like on that, well fake agent its mostly the UK version, but i do watch the other one as well.
I just seem to be more into americans, dunno why, thats simply it.
To me the bad english spoken sound really like a young girl who badly speak, i dunno, its hard to explain, that is just personal preference. As for british accent, it must be light, not too pronounce. Now for why i read the subtitle... hum again for a pornographer yourself i think your view is limited on one thing... GUY FUCK GIRL and thats about it. Some of the most arousing parts of a scene is the girl tlaking about herself, relating experiences, or for exemple i am into those naughty videos where a guy pick up a random girl and convince her to pay her for sex, she hesitate so much(of course its all staged, but the concept is cool to watch) and finally agree and then the guy try to get more and more of her... Those are scenes when i want to know whats happening, so usually its subtitled.
To make a great porn, you don't just need good camera angles, a pretty girl and a big dick, its all about concepts, execution, scenarios, and even tough it make you laugh that i remember the names of the actors, the directors, and such, to me its as much important as the female performer.
The best Naughty America or Brazzers scenes to me don't come only of the star they featured, because that specific girl usually shot like 10 scenes with them, it comes from that SPECIFIC concept of that scene, how the male performer interact with the star. For exemple if theys shoot, My first sex teacher, and the guy is blank as a cucumber... the fantasy won't be hot. On the other hand if he plays his part of "wow holy shit whats happening" well, and the concept is well written, this is where it work.
Any random dude can buy a camera, shoot 2 person having sex, but what makes a good porno is all the work put in it, from the lightining and sound, to the editing and montage, and of course the very core of the scene, your scenario and how your performers behave.
Take Girls Do Porn for exemple, there force is they showcase NEW girls, usually very freaking hot. So they can afford to make it simple. Girl lay on the bed, talk about her sexual experience, then its the same positions, same routine everytime...at least they got rid of those stupid yellow lights that ruined scene, so THERE whats important is the girl they show. But if you shoot a girl that appeared in many porn, at some point you need to revigorate your stuff. Sometimes the girl decide to do more to give her career a boost too, like recently Capri Cavanni(Cavalli) with the "black on blondes" scene and such. She didn't do interacial before... so because now she took part in a new concept(for her) it made her on the spot again.
I just seem to be more into americans, dunno why, thats simply it.
To me the bad english spoken sound really like a young girl who badly speak, i dunno, its hard to explain, that is just personal preference. As for british accent, it must be light, not too pronounce. Now for why i read the subtitle... hum again for a pornographer yourself i think your view is limited on one thing... GUY FUCK GIRL and thats about it. Some of the most arousing parts of a scene is the girl tlaking about herself, relating experiences, or for exemple i am into those naughty videos where a guy pick up a random girl and convince her to pay her for sex, she hesitate so much(of course its all staged, but the concept is cool to watch) and finally agree and then the guy try to get more and more of her... Those are scenes when i want to know whats happening, so usually its subtitled.
To make a great porn, you don't just need good camera angles, a pretty girl and a big dick, its all about concepts, execution, scenarios, and even tough it make you laugh that i remember the names of the actors, the directors, and such, to me its as much important as the female performer.
The best Naughty America or Brazzers scenes to me don't come only of the star they featured, because that specific girl usually shot like 10 scenes with them, it comes from that SPECIFIC concept of that scene, how the male performer interact with the star. For exemple if theys shoot, My first sex teacher, and the guy is blank as a cucumber... the fantasy won't be hot. On the other hand if he plays his part of "wow holy shit whats happening" well, and the concept is well written, this is where it work.
Any random dude can buy a camera, shoot 2 person having sex, but what makes a good porno is all the work put in it, from the lightining and sound, to the editing and montage, and of course the very core of the scene, your scenario and how your performers behave.
Take Girls Do Porn for exemple, there force is they showcase NEW girls, usually very freaking hot. So they can afford to make it simple. Girl lay on the bed, talk about her sexual experience, then its the same positions, same routine everytime...at least they got rid of those stupid yellow lights that ruined scene, so THERE whats important is the girl they show. But if you shoot a girl that appeared in many porn, at some point you need to revigorate your stuff. Sometimes the girl decide to do more to give her career a boost too, like recently Capri Cavanni(Cavalli) with the "black on blondes" scene and such. She didn't do interacial before... so because now she took part in a new concept(for her) it made her on the spot again.
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Angel is a friend of mine. She hasn't shot anything in years... In fact, I believe the last shoot of any kind she did was for me as a favor so I owe her big. One of the easiest and coolest girls I've ever had the privilege of shooting. I never did really meet her as Angel. I met her as herself through mutual Czech friends, both of whom are just as cool, have great work ethics, and people I hang out with in my personal life. So maybe I'm more partial to Europeans than most.
i think our viewpoints are always going to be different because you will always view things from the eye of a fan, and I will always view things from ther perspective of a production guy. Everything that you find arousing doesn't mean shit if there isn't a hot girl having hot sex. I've seen every scenario and variation thereof... I know the true reality behind reality porn, I see what happens between the positions that ends up on the cutting room floor, and in some cases, I even know the difference between the on and off camera orgasm, so the rest of the fantasy that is created doesn't do it for me. It's kind of like the MTL SP scene for me... Sure the venue and lighting may set the tone, buts the most important part of the date will be the chemistry between the provider and client. The ambience and seduction may set the mood, but if the service is average, we're probably going to hear about it... :lol:
i think our viewpoints are always going to be different because you will always view things from the eye of a fan, and I will always view things from ther perspective of a production guy. Everything that you find arousing doesn't mean shit if there isn't a hot girl having hot sex. I've seen every scenario and variation thereof... I know the true reality behind reality porn, I see what happens between the positions that ends up on the cutting room floor, and in some cases, I even know the difference between the on and off camera orgasm, so the rest of the fantasy that is created doesn't do it for me. It's kind of like the MTL SP scene for me... Sure the venue and lighting may set the tone, buts the most important part of the date will be the chemistry between the provider and client. The ambience and seduction may set the mood, but if the service is average, we're probably going to hear about it... :lol:
Its true that when you shoot you see stuff we don't. So when the director say cut, everything stop, and you can see the fakeness of a scene. That part i totally understand it. On the other hand you seem to emphasize on the girl in the porn. Its true that the key element is a hot girl, without it there is no porn.. or well you know what i mean. BUT the thing is, no matter how hot she is, if its shot amateurish and badly, the scene won't be hot for us the fans. Same goes for the other sense, the scene can be totally great in every aspect but if a girl ain't do jack for me, of course i won't enjoy that scene really.
But what bothered me was on you seem to totally neglect every other aspect than the girl herself, mentioning how much the male talent is just Dick #4 and anybody with a big dick would do. Truth is, NOT !!
I can understand you shot a lot of porn, but saying you saw all and everything seem a bit like overhyping yourself. I doubt even Pussy Man Christopher or Jules Jordan themselves have seen everything... and they saw A LOT. Hell im sure even the king of porn himself, Peter North, could still learn a thing or 2...
Just like art, when your in cinematography, no matter if porn or mainstream, there is always ways to re-invent yourself and be original.
As for Angel, yeah been a while since i saw her, but she had been around for a LONG time, i remember the first porn she shot(i think) was for Woodman in 2001 or 2002, something like that... so it was to expect eventually she would quit.
Lately i have seen a bunch of favorite of mine either quit or be on extensive breaks, Riley Evans, Brooke Banner, Diamond Foxx(even tough there was a new scene recently, but she don't seem to be as active as before)
On the other hand there always new girls coming, some come and go like Jessica Robbin, Kylee Strutt and such, other stay around for a while... but this industry is always moving
But what bothered me was on you seem to totally neglect every other aspect than the girl herself, mentioning how much the male talent is just Dick #4 and anybody with a big dick would do. Truth is, NOT !!
I can understand you shot a lot of porn, but saying you saw all and everything seem a bit like overhyping yourself. I doubt even Pussy Man Christopher or Jules Jordan themselves have seen everything... and they saw A LOT. Hell im sure even the king of porn himself, Peter North, could still learn a thing or 2...
Just like art, when your in cinematography, no matter if porn or mainstream, there is always ways to re-invent yourself and be original.
As for Angel, yeah been a while since i saw her, but she had been around for a LONG time, i remember the first porn she shot(i think) was for Woodman in 2001 or 2002, something like that... so it was to expect eventually she would quit.
Lately i have seen a bunch of favorite of mine either quit or be on extensive breaks, Riley Evans, Brooke Banner, Diamond Foxx(even tough there was a new scene recently, but she don't seem to be as active as before)
On the other hand there always new girls coming, some come and go like Jessica Robbin, Kylee Strutt and such, other stay around for a while... but this industry is always moving
Not overhyping at all... Just because I've seen everything to the point it doesn't surprise me doesn't mean I don't have anything yet to learn. I don't shoot in a traditional sense... I shoot stills... The scenes that accompany usually develop out of the photoshoot which is why the reality in my scenes is a little different. I don't try to reinvent anything or shoot better porn... I try to become a better photographer... What comes out of that I simply document.
"But what bothered me was on you seem to totally neglect every other aspect than the girl herself, mentioning how much the male talent is just Dick #4 and anybody with a big dick would do. Truth is, NOT !!"
i hate to burst your bubble, bro... But those are your words, not mine. But in all fairness, a guy is a prop to me, unless it's me, in which case I'm a less talented and less endowed prop... :lol:
Angel retired for her own reasons... If she hadn't, she would still be booked very frequently... She looks better now than she ever did IMO.
"But what bothered me was on you seem to totally neglect every other aspect than the girl herself, mentioning how much the male talent is just Dick #4 and anybody with a big dick would do. Truth is, NOT !!"
i hate to burst your bubble, bro... But those are your words, not mine. But in all fairness, a guy is a prop to me, unless it's me, in which case I'm a less talented and less endowed prop... :lol:
Angel retired for her own reasons... If she hadn't, she would still be booked very frequently... She looks better now than she ever did IMO.
Ah ok so your the guy shooting the stills. Interesting. I like photography, i was very interested to study into it, but here the market is too small and a good hardware cost thousands of $.
When it comes to porn PERSONALLY i think the pictures should enhance a shoot, not the other way around tough. But this is maybe the porn fan that is speaking. I like modeling pictures too, but i feel these days there is just too much photoshop and artificial, i wish you would see more natural type of pics.
Dunno for sure what is a prop, but i get what you mean, and this is where i disagree lol. As for Angel, oh im sure she look fabulous still, but i meant after so many years in porn, im not surprise she wanted to do something else and turn a page.
When it comes to porn PERSONALLY i think the pictures should enhance a shoot, not the other way around tough. But this is maybe the porn fan that is speaking. I like modeling pictures too, but i feel these days there is just too much photoshop and artificial, i wish you would see more natural type of pics.
Dunno for sure what is a prop, but i get what you mean, and this is where i disagree lol. As for Angel, oh im sure she look fabulous still, but i meant after so many years in porn, im not surprise she wanted to do something else and turn a page.
I shoot both... I'm decent with any camera... I'm just stronger with still images so that's where I focus, no pun intended. In my case, the video segment of my shoots simply legitimizes everything. Watching BTS of a photoshoot gets boring... "reality" sex afterwards, not so much... :lol:
I don't use the video to enhance the photoshoot. In fact, it's a bit more raw and real than the glam pics I take. Like I said, I simply document what happens after the shoot... no crazy camera angles, no hiding light stands, no telling the girl what to do and how to do it... it's more of a "day in the life of" kind of feel... no script, whatever dialog happens, happens... I also don't really use photoshop at all... except to correct white balance and drop in a logo or temporary watermark... plus, I suck at it so I'd rather try to capture the image as best as I can to begin with.
Even when Angel was active in the business, she was a very "normal" girl with a very normal life so to speak. The one thing I notice about many of the Euro girls is that they are able to leave their work when they leave the set. Many of the American porn girls I've shot are the same way 24/7... nothing wrong with that of course. Angel could probably come back into the business, and not much in her personal life would change because she was very good at keeping her private life private. Amazing girl for sure...
I don't use the video to enhance the photoshoot. In fact, it's a bit more raw and real than the glam pics I take. Like I said, I simply document what happens after the shoot... no crazy camera angles, no hiding light stands, no telling the girl what to do and how to do it... it's more of a "day in the life of" kind of feel... no script, whatever dialog happens, happens... I also don't really use photoshop at all... except to correct white balance and drop in a logo or temporary watermark... plus, I suck at it so I'd rather try to capture the image as best as I can to begin with.
Even when Angel was active in the business, she was a very "normal" girl with a very normal life so to speak. The one thing I notice about many of the Euro girls is that they are able to leave their work when they leave the set. Many of the American porn girls I've shot are the same way 24/7... nothing wrong with that of course. Angel could probably come back into the business, and not much in her personal life would change because she was very good at keeping her private life private. Amazing girl for sure...
So fucking hot. I would fly to Prague if I new I would get to fuck her. One of my all time favs with Laura Angel and Sylvia Saint!
There's a BTS on a Chris Streams movie, where the guys are just sitting around the kitchen naming their favorites. He names Angel Dark, and the whole room gets wobbly knees. I couldn't agree more.
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