first visit to Monteal, my expereience + review

[Julia Sky]

there is now a cohort of men who are so deprived of intimacy in there personal lives that, when it comes to the hobby, they are seemingly satisfied with anything. After all, when you having "nothing" at baseline, getting "something" is infinitely better.

[...] most men aren't going to find this appealing and that things weren't always this way.

This doesn't explain why so many men come see us, with our ink or our weight over 87 pounds, when we charge double or triple the agency rates. Surely if they weren't actually into us they'd go with the slimmer, cheaper option with no tattoos?

I don't know about "most" men, can you post your recent study on this? Tastes are so varied these days. My friends and I are booked and busy despite the vast differences in appearance amongst ourselves - blondes, brunettes, 112 pounds to 300 pounds, with or without ink.... None of us has time to see every client in the world anyway, so it ultimately doesn't matter what "most men" prefer. We connect with the men who prefer us, and no, we aren't jaded while doing so, it could be that you're uninspiring to spend time with though if this has constantly been your experience..

 

[HDarrow0]

This doesn't explain why so many men come see us, with our ink or our weight over 87 pounds, when we charge double or triple the agency rates. Surely if they weren't actually into us they'd go with the slimmer, cheaper option with no tattoos?

I don't know about "most" men, can you post your recent study on this? Tastes are so varied these days. My friends and I are booked and busy despite the vast differences in appearance amongst ourselves - blondes, brunettes, 112 pounds to 300 pounds, with or without ink.... None of us has time to see every client in the world anyway, so it ultimately doesn't matter what "most men" prefer. We connect with the men who prefer us, and no, we aren't jaded while doing so, it could be that you're uninspiring to spend time with though if this has constantly been your experience..

Just take a look at the women who get the most views on social media. They all mostly fit a certain physical profile. That's what most men prefer. If you are going to argue that beauty is entirely subjective, then there is no further point to this discussion. By that logic, men would find obese old woman living in a nursing home to be just as attractive as thin college aged women. I find it amusing that criticism of a provider's weight, a mutable characteristic, gets so much flack on this message board and I suspect that it's because it hits a personal nerve with some providers. Meanwhile, when providers refuse clients due to their race (mostly black), an immutable characteristic, suddenly its just a preference guys.

Your comment about being "uninspiring" is also very telling. Clients should be clean and respectful, but inspiring? If men want to go out and try to entertain women, they can do so on their own time without paying hundreds of dollars per hour for the privilege of doing so. As I suspect, there is a cohort of men out there who are using the hobby to fulfill the emotional needs of a traditional relationship. If you can provide this and be compensated well for it, more power to you. Just recognize that not all men are interested in forming paid pseudo-relationships with providers and that many just want to have an experience with a woman out of their league which is becoming increasingly rare in Mtl post-pandemic as I and the OP have described.

 

[minutemenX]

Just take a look at the women who get the most views on social media. They all mostly fit a certain physical profile. That's what most men prefer.

No doubt that “standard” clients (i.e. most probable category by age, physic, education etc.) found the best match with ”standard” looking SPs. It is a 2-dimensional Bell curve however. There is enough space for the outliers on both sides. Thus, your points as “standard” client do not contradict other experiences and opinions. Nobody argues that “standard” looking SP (i.e. a young slim tall blond) has potentially, just potentially, larger client base. But nonstandard looks are often more than compensated by the quality of service and even some particular physical and sex appeal that is valued by “non-standard” clients.

 

[Julia Sky]

Just take a look at the women who get the most views on social media.

I could name you many who don't fit the look you have in mind as well... I'm sure you know how algorithms work?

I find it amusing that criticism of a provider's weight, a mutable characteristic, gets so much flack on this message board and I suspect that it's because it hits a personal nerve with some providers.

I don't think it has to do with weight specifically, but rather the idea that your tastes (regarding more than just weight) are shared by everyone and that anyone who likes something else must be desperate.

Meanwhile, when providers refuse clients due to their race (mostly black), an immutable characteristic, suddenly its just a preference guys.

No, it's racism. Hope this helps! Whataboutism doesn't work and you're talking to the wrong people considering the only providers who replied in this thread are a black woman and someone who often speaks up about racism within the industry...

Your comment about being "uninspiring" is also very telling. Clients should be clean and respectful, but inspiring?

I said inspiring to spend time with, it doesn't automatically mean going and and being an entertainer. It's a figure of speech. But giving me this type of reply after talking about how most escorts are jaded... kind of proves my point.

 

[LC18]

I think this subject is very tired. “Boohoo I can no longer meet a Playboy Bunny for $120. Montreal sucks now!”

Trust us, we miss the times we could charge those price too but times change, inflation kicks everybody’s asses.

Having tattoos isn’t for criminals, prisoners anymore. People get them to express their personality and to remind them of important. Tattoo artists are more and more skilled so people are drawn to it.

Agencies are more welcoming now, when I started you wouldn’t see many black girls. Now you can find them easily. Same for curvier women, they’re accepted now so guess what? You’ll see more of them displayed on websites. If there are so many of them, I guess it’s because the clients book them.

You can find the woman of your dreams or very close to, you just have to pay and sadly, those prices are only going up but so is the prices of food and housing.

Anyways enjoy your day everyone, it’s sunny outside. Live a little!

 

[AlmostMidaged]

No doubt that “standard” clients (i.e. most probable category by age, physic, education etc.) found the best match with ”standard” looking SPs. It is a 2-dimensional Bell curve however. There is enough space for the outliers on both sides. Thus, your points as “standard” client do not contradict other experiences and opinions. Nobody argues that “standard” looking SP (i.e. a young slim tall blond) has potentially, just potentially, larger client base. But nonstandard looks are often more than compensated by the quality of service and even some particular physical and sex appeal that is valued by “non-standard” clients.

Like the old saying that fat chicks suck better dick and will suck you longer. Or fat dudes will eat pussy and be satisfied without sex. The less ‘standard’ you are the more you have to compensate if you want to keep the person satisfied. Doesn’t mean all fat chicks suck good dick though.

 

[Baby Li-Anna]

You missed the boat with Montreal. Pre-Covid, there were a lot of 18-25 year olds who did it part time/temporarily while pursuing something else full time like school. As has been discussed in previous threads, these types of women have mostly migrated to online SW like Onlyfans which exploded during the pandemic. What is left are women who are way older, heavier, covered in tattoos, and most importantly way more burnt out and jaded. As you mentioned, these women wouldn't make it in the strip clubs or online because they don't have the face or figure.

Your comment about being "uninspiring" is also very telling. Clients should be clean and respectful, but inspiring? If men want to go out and try to entertain women, they can do so on their own time without paying hundreds of dollars per hour for the privilege of doing so. As I suspect, there is a cohort of men out there who are using the hobby to fulfill the emotional needs of a traditional relationship. If you can provide this and be compensated well for it, more power to you. Just recognize that not all men are interested in forming paid pseudo-relationships with providers and that many just want to have an experience with a woman out of their league which is becoming increasingly rare in Mtl post-pandemic as I and the OP have described.

A little of my point of view.

I seem to fit your criteria. I am young, in shape and little tattoos barely noticeable.

Seeing how you talk about other SPs, I don't know how SPs your type will agree to see you (if they learn your merb handle). Including me.

Guess what... I am not the type of some people and it's OK. My fellow SPs are still booked, no matter their looks because their service is very good.

But for me to give a good experience, sexually or otherwise there needs to be a connection. In a way, like she said, inspiring. If I don't like you and you treat me like a body, I will not give you a good experience.

The type of girls you like may have diminished, but there are still some left for other man who likes other things.

"Not all men are interested in forming paid pseudo-relationships with providers"

Of course not, but again, you need to have a minimum of "relationship" to receive good service.

With sex you NEED a minimum of connection.

We are not sex dolls, we are still humans.

Anyways, I had a lot of thoughts about it and maybe they aren't in order but there they are.

Xoxo,
Li-Anna

 

[wolfie7]

I truly don't understand some of the replies above arguing that "looks don't matter" in this business. If "looks don't matter", why even bother with the hobby? Just go to your local bar and take your pick of any of the middle aged frumpy women there who will go home with you for free. You can even get them for the entire night, again, for free! I thought that most men went into this hobby so that they could experience woman out of there league but apparently I'm wrong. I have a strong suspicion that with dating becoming so increasingly competitive for men here in the West, there is now a cohort of men who are so deprived of intimacy in there personal lives that, when it comes to the hobby, they are seemingly satisfied with anything. After all, when you having "nothing" at baseline, getting "something" is infinitely better.

To the point about having modest expectations for the basic $250 agency fee, this is pure normalcy bias at work because of how bad things have gotten. Pre-pandemic, you had providers like Ruby at Euphoria who looked like Faye Reagan for less than what agencies charge nowadays. That was the norm. Women who were young, thin, and who had conventionally pretty faces. Post-pandemic, the norm appears to be MILFs, BBWs, and women with all sorts of "alternative appearances". If this is what you are into, then great, you're in paradise. Just recognize though that most men aren't going to find this appealing and that things weren't always this way.

Second paragraph, also great points!

 

[wolfie7]

Every couple of weeks, pop into MERB for a chuckle! The consistent support of the sisterhood is a such a beautiful thing to behold…

 

[CaptRenault]

… There are definitely better strip clubs out there in terms of value for money and quality compared to Chez Pare.

Which ones?

You have never posted in the Montreal strip club forum.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Which ones?

You have never posted in the Montreal strip club forum.

Are you kidding me? I used to be the king of strip clubs.

Just because I choose not to delve into my past or personal life doesn't diminish my expertise.

My knowledge of strip clubs surpasses that of service providers, but I refrain from discussing it here as I find it irrelevant in this forum.

There is little benefit to be gained from discussing strip clubs compared to service providers.

Even if there were something valuable to share about strip clubs, it would not be allowed to do so on this platform.

Therefore, what would be the purpose?

I don't feel the need to provide a detailed account of my history; those who know me are aware of my credibility.

 

[Wearethenight]

As if all women fit the same boat

Just take a look at the women who get the most views on social media. They all mostly fit a certain physical profile. That's what most men prefer. If you are going to argue that beauty is entirely subjective, then there is no further point to this discussion. By that logic, men would find obese old woman living in a nursing home to be just as attractive as thin college aged women. I find it amusing that criticism of a provider's weight, a mutable characteristic, gets so much flack on this message board and I suspect that it's because it hits a personal nerve with some providers. Meanwhile, when providers refuse clients due to their race (mostly black), an immutable characteristic, suddenly its just a preference guys.

Your comment about being "uninspiring" is also very telling. Clients should be clean and respectful, but inspiring? If men want to go out and try to entertain women, they can do so on their own time without paying hundreds of dollars per hour for the privilege of doing so. As I suspect, there is a cohort of men out there who are using the hobby to fulfill the emotional needs of a traditional relationship. If you can provide this and be compensated well for it, more power to you. Just recognize that not all men are interested in forming paid pseudo-relationships with providers and that many just want to have an experience with a woman out of their league which is becoming increasingly rare in Mtl post-pandemic as I and the OP have described.

Everyone has their own personal taste, you may argue that the hypothetical 18-25 year old 110 pound blondes make the most in the Sp business. I was one of this preferred ones but brunette and passed for middle eastern eastern even though I am a Jew, the complaints I got mostly related to my nose lol. As a spinner I got many clients but even when I gained weight ( I survived anorexia nervosa and you should tread carefully with respect to women as some of us are in an eating disorder recovery as you can gain weight in recovery) I gained fat which then turned into a more muscular curvy weight, courtesy of weights, krav maga, etc. I grew stronger, my clientele did not change or decrease despite the weight differences and let's not forget to add a few more years into that.

Even having a glance at most high end escort agencies in several European countries, the age range and weight ranges vary, and what you may term a 6 another man may term a 10. Looks are highly suggestive so the argument that most men like a certain criteria is irrelevant, as you need to consider demographics, ethnicities. I can count up to 10 curvy and older only fans models that make the equivalent of their skinny and young sisters in onlyfans, in the 1% and can arrest that my older, bbw colleagues from agencies and independent are fully booked. Also, I can name various porn stars that fit the curvy profile that do well for themselves based on men's tastes, that will not fit your stereotypical profile, think Angela White, Dani Daniels, Abella Danger, Lena Plug just to name a few. At the end of the day looks are highly subjective and variant but with the escort agencies you can still find a young woman who is a spinner, there are plenty with the big agencies and as independents.

 

[CaptRenault]

Are you kidding me? I used to be the king of strip clubs…

Just because I choose not to delve into my past or personal life doesn't diminish my expertise
I don't feel the need to provide a detailed account of my history; those who know me are aware of my credibility.

Yeah, well, I’m the king of skeptics and I don’t think you know anything about Montreal strip clubs. You just confirmed that for me.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Yeah, well, I’m the king of skeptics and I don’t think you know anything about Montreal strip clubs. You just confirmed that for me.

I am not here to impress you or cater to your opinions. My main focus on this forum is to help other members by sharing my knowledge and sharing information. The purpose of this platform is to assist and support each other, so please refrain from expressing skepticism sarcasm towards me. Your time would be better spent elsewhere.

 

[LeafsSuck]

Hello,
I've always wanted to visit Montreal and try some "activities". I had a trip about 5 weeks ago, my opinion on the trip:
-The Hotel I stayed at was great, pool and hot tubs are fun. I talked to others in the hot tub, they had interesting stories to hear.
-Walking around Montreal was great, Saint Catherine, old Montreal, China Town, McGill, all fun
The strip club was a little disappointing, they nickel and dime you, I went to Chez Paree and the doorman explains to me that there is a $10 cover and $5 tip, so I pay the $10 cover and tip the woman at the register $5, then the doorman leads me to my seat and sticks out his hand and asks for the $5 tip. I thought the $5 I tipped the woman at the register was the "tip" he was talking about. I don't care too much about the $5 but about the sly trick he pulled. Watching the dancers dance was "meh", not my thing. Though one was really good and danced in sync with the music, it was unfortunate she didn't have the face or body to go along with it. Then over the course of 4 hours about 10 strippers approached me, about 4 were my type looks wise, we did the private dance. 2 of the girls wanted a tip after the $20 dance (I made sure to pay before the dance because I saw online reviews about the girls dancing 2 or 3 songs and then asking for $60 when al the guy wanted was once dance). The last dance of the night, the girl led me to the thing, you need to pay $5 each time you go into the private dance area, then she expected me to tip that person $5 on top the the $5, then she did a 20 second dance and said "song is over" and she said "tips are appreciated". I left the strip cub after that. Bad experience, but I'm glad I did it as I wanted to knock it off my bucket list. In a way I'm glad I had a bad experience because it didn't addict me.
-Escorts: It seems like all the girls at the agencies are 15-20 pounds heavier and the pics are heavily edited and old. People can put on weight rather quickly on our western food diet so any picture more than a month old is unfortunate from the consumer perspective. My advice is listen to all the bad reviews on the girls because they are all true. If you like skinny girls don't pick a girl that covers her tummy in the pictures, if a girl is proud of her skinny tummy she will show it off proudly in the pictures in multiple angles. Think with your big head not your little head when selecting a girl. I am attracted to about 30% of the girls at the Montreal strip club (I like skinny girls). None of the girls I saw were as attractive as one of those in the 30%. None of the girls are as attractive as a "head turner" on the streets of Montreal. The girls are probably at the agency because they wouldn't make it in the strip club because they don't have the face/figure. Again, I'm glad I did it, got it out of my system, spent money that I otherwise would have never spent as I have enough, lived life a little, checked items off the bucket list. I'm 30-40 years old, and it wasn't for me. If you are 50-60 years old perhaps this is a big deal and spending time with these girls is comparatively more fun. My previous girlfriends had better bodies and better asses than these escorts, and I didn't think my girlfriends were super hot. It turns out I need to know someone for a while before I can get comfortable with them. My erections are a lot softer with escorts than with girlfriends. I can't "get in the mood" with escorts, I need the challenge of trying to wine and dine a girl. Not sure how herpes works in this industry but I did see some crusting of the lips (what looked to be a healing cold sore) and what looked to be active sores covered with lip gloss products. Also, with how I have sex I like to make a girl orgasm with sex, for me it's a lot more about her pleasure than mine, but I can't get that done in a hour or two with a new girl I meet. I have to know that she likes me in a actual girlfriend type of way (yes you pay for it no matter what but that lie seems to work a bit better for me).

Overall it was a good experience, I'm glad I did it. I'll probably come back in 2 years but this time I won't book an escort unless I happen to see one I like and all the recent reviews are positive and there are no red flags in the reviews. I'll probably complain again but c'est la vie. It's also possible I am getting less interested in relationships and sex and that is guiding my review heavily. Seeing escorts has also removed a lot of my mystique of women for me, I don't see them as that special anymore. I used to see a hot girl on the streets and wonder what it would be like to strip all her clothes off and caress her whole body, now I don't care anymore as I got to do that at the strip club. I would recommend everyone see escorts, get it out of the system, maybe if you do end up getting married you will be less likely to cheat and get divorced as you will have already had your fill and won't be curious anymore. I should have done this 10 years ago when I was a lot more sexually excitable, could have been good for me.

Stay positive! =)

Try Cuba or DR.

 

[LeafsSuck]

I would recommend Le Garage, which is located about 35 minutes from Montreal. Despite the distance, the experience is well worth the investment. The ladies at Le Garage are not only more attractive but also more eager to please, enthusiastic, and, most importantly, have a positive attitude compared to those at Chez Pare.

Where is this place?

 

[Toto beefcake]

Where is this place?

Mirabel

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Mirabel

Terrebonne buddy,

 

[Toto beefcake]

Terrebonne buddy,

Ogascon is terrebonne garage is mirabel

 

[CLOUD 500]

Which ones?

Bar Le Vegas, Les Deesses, 10/35, La Source du Sexe.