That's not my business. The 18 events as well as the death toll is listed precisely, that's all it matters. I'm not interested in those lenghty as much as useless comments over semantics. 17 children were killed in a school for fucks sake yet some people here believe that finding faults over insignificant details is more important. Pathetic.
Florida mass shooting kills many teens- another one
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M... That is a complete tragedy of course. If you think there is a solution please give one, J also.
Solutions? Well, the solutions are pretty simple if the policy makers care to take the blinders off and ask themselves why these mass shootings are particular to the US.
The only quick act you can do would be to simply have to get a licence by passing a psychiatric test before being able to buy a gun. At least it will be the beginning of a solution.
That and also forbid the press and all media to show images of the shooter. Their names should also not be published. I guess a lot of shooter do this to say a big fuck you to their world, could be a good solution to make sure no one on earth will never know their name.
Cheers,
That and also forbid the press and all media to show images of the shooter. Their names should also not be published. I guess a lot of shooter do this to say a big fuck you to their world, could be a good solution to make sure no one on earth will never know their name.
Cheers,
Yeahhhhh, and who would set the bar to pass the test, who would give the test? A Republican or Drmocrat? How often would you ned to re-test?
Just my opinion but when someone decides to go on a killing spree they go for the easiest way, now it is a gun. Say a gun is not available perhaps a bomb or burn the school down.
Fucked up people will find a way to carry out their mission one way or another.
There is no simple solution to the gun violence, guns will never be taken away from the US citizens.
Just my opinion but when someone decides to go on a killing spree they go for the easiest way, now it is a gun. Say a gun is not available perhaps a bomb or burn the school down.
Fucked up people will find a way to carry out their mission one way or another.
There is no simple solution to the gun violence, guns will never be taken away from the US citizens.
(I swear...)
Here's an idea. There is about 1 million US military personel deployed in 150 countries, 300,000 of which are serving outside the US and its territories. How about bringing 5,000 or 6,000 back to the motherland and station them in schools? That might be dissuassive, wouldn't it be? Wasn't it supposed to be "America First"? It would take one phone call from the POTUS to get the job done.
Here's another idea. Instead of spending $68B annualy for the army, how about using a little bit of that money to install metal detectors in every US school?
Start with that then, as the POTUS, have the balls to tell the NRA to fuck off and stick their loaded riffles up in their ultra-conservative asses. I mean wasn't the big orange clownfish supposed to "drain the swamp"?
Trust me, if I were the POTUS, I would solve the problem in less than a month.
You could never be the POTUS:
1. your name is Mohamed!
2. The NRA decides which republican is the POTUS
Cheers,
The FBI was tipped off about the shooter in September 2017 and in January 2018. They had his real name and it would have been easy to track him down by tracing the IP number behind the message he posted on Youtube in September. It would have required a little legwork and a warrant but it's an easy task for an organization like the FBI. In January they received a very specific detailed tip about him from someone who knew him.
I guess the FBI was too busy trapping and arresting small-town sex workers and their clients: https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/01/fake-human-trafficking-busts-by-dhs
Trump should order the FBI to keep out of the sex lives of Americans and go after the people who are intent on killing Americans.
I guess the FBI was too busy trapping and arresting small-town sex workers and their clients: https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/01/fake-human-trafficking-busts-by-dhs
Trump should order the FBI to keep out of the sex lives of Americans and go after the people who are intent on killing Americans.
Having lived in the southern U.S. for several years, I can tell you that some schools do indeed have armed guards on the premises. Some have hired police officers for security. Other schools have school staff bring their firearms to school and carry them on their person. It’s not uncommon in some states to have a school principal carry a concealed handgun. Where I lived, option 3 was common. My personal preference however would be for a Police Officer to be hired by the school. Police have the necessary training required to stop a crazed gunman from shooting up a school. Not to mention that having a full time Police Officer at the school provides a sense of security to both the parents and the students.
This is just the amount of elementary schools
Elementary, or primary education, customarily refers to the first six years of formal education received in schools in the United States. According to the National Center for Educational Statistics, there were about*90,000*elementary schools operating in the United States between 2013 and 2014; both private and public.
Add the jr high to university..... a hell of a lot of people needed. And the idea of installing metal detectors for all. The cost would be huge and no guarantee of a 100% success rate.
Drunks that drive and kill people, and there are thousands.
In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving*crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related*deaths*in the*United States. Of the 1, 1,132 traffic*deaths*among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2015, 209 (16%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.Jun 16, 2017.
Perhaps we should have free taxis sitting at all the bars 24/7 . A hotline to get picked up at home free if you plan to drink. It would cost less and save thousands more lives.
Just a thought.
Elementary, or primary education, customarily refers to the first six years of formal education received in schools in the United States. According to the National Center for Educational Statistics, there were about*90,000*elementary schools operating in the United States between 2013 and 2014; both private and public.
Add the jr high to university..... a hell of a lot of people needed. And the idea of installing metal detectors for all. The cost would be huge and no guarantee of a 100% success rate.
Drunks that drive and kill people, and there are thousands.
In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving*crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related*deaths*in the*United States. Of the 1, 1,132 traffic*deaths*among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2015, 209 (16%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.Jun 16, 2017.
Perhaps we should have free taxis sitting at all the bars 24/7 . A hotline to get picked up at home free if you plan to drink. It would cost less and save thousands more lives.
Just a thought.
i grew up in rural america and got my first rifle when i was 10 as did many of my other friends. most just had single shot rifles or shotguns. i never knew anyone who had a handgun and or a military style rifle. we just used our guns for hunting. there was no reason to own a semi-automatic or automatic rifle since the object was to kill an animal with a well placed shot, not riddle it with bullets so it was inedible. it would never have occurred to us to take our guns to a public place or feel that they were needed for self defense. altercations resulted in fistfights not shootings. mass killings were impossible with our weaponry. i now go back there and it is common to see handguns being carried and many own their favorite weapon of mass destruction there seems to be an arms race out there based upon fear and i must admit when i am around so many people with guns, i begin to think that i should carry a gun. of course the nra keeps telling us that everyone will be safer if we have more guns. this is insane, how much longer will they get away with this. its time to end this arms race with sensible gun control and begin by putting limits on the killing power of our rifles.
I guess the FBI was too busy trapping and arresting small-town sex workers and their clients: https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/01/fake-human-trafficking-busts-by-dhs
Trump should order the FBI to keep out of the sex lives of Americans and go after the people who are intent on killing Americans.
Because you know it is so important to enforce social conservative behavior based from the bible. Looool The US needs to quit trying to enforce social behavior and go after the real criminals.
It's not so much common sense as it is banning the AR wouldn't solve the problem because there are too many alternatives; you named a few yourself. If I had any sway in gun control policy, a psychiatric exam like Jalimon said would definitely be in there. It sounds nanny state because it is. Something has to be done. It's only in America that you can't rest easy at a school, concert, movie theater, work and even church because each venue has witnessed a mass shooting.
When I was living in Edmonton back to the early 70's we lived on the edge of the city, on a regular basis we would go out with 22's, BB guns and even shotguns to hunt gophers and whatever moved in the fields. Imagine now if a group of 14 to 16 yr olds walked through the streets fully armed, the police would have you surrounded and helicopters would be flying overhead.
Even the FBI admits that it fucked up. It's very rare that a government bureaucracy will admit something like that. As described in this Washington Post article (and many others) the January tip was detailed and very specific. If these kind of school shootings were rare, then I could see how the FBI would ignore such a tip. However, given the history of school shootings and other mass killings, how in the world could the FBi simply ignore a tip like this? I'm sure that if the tipster had reported that Cruz was also a jihadist, the FBI would have been all over him within days.
The fact is that in recent decades the FBI has evolved into a typically incompetent government bureaucracy. Seeing the FBI fail to investigate a tip like this while it participates in low-level busts of local sex workers and websites that advertise escorts tells you everything you need to know about today's FBI.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9c9830535e5_story.html?utm_term=.0be6a114031e
...The FBI ignored a warning that 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz might attack a school, failing to act on a call just weeks before Cruz allegedly carried out a shooting rampage at a high school in South Florida on Valentine’s Day, the bureau said Friday.
The disclosure came two days after police say Cruz gunned down 17 people, most of them teenagers, at a high school in Parkland, Fla. The FBI — already facing intense scrutiny for its handling of political matters — described a Jan. 5 tip from “a person close to Nikolas Cruz,” a tip officials acknowledge should have initiated a response. The caller reported concerns about Cruz’s “gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting,” the FBI said in a statement.
Someone I know is from Uganda, no guns but machetes, clubs and rocks. The killings are brutal and very painful, most done by large groups but some by lone individuals. If people can not get a gun they will find some other way to kill people.
No need for mass murderers Sam. Look at the stats. Guns kill and wound people by accident (mishandle of guns) by ratio of 99 to 1 as opposed to self defense. So basically the right to own a gun is totally useless crap.
Cheers,
