Florida mass shooting kills many teens- another one
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Yeah.... So some here think it is OK to open our borders to all, no issues but when someine uses a gun and kills a few students the world ends. Drunk drivers kill far more than school killings, you should be focusing your anger on them, if you succeed there would be a ten fold improvement.
The ideas of armed guards, metal detectors and shrink exams are a pipe dream. The costs are massive and not guaranteed to work.
Sad but it is a part of life, it has happened and it will happen again.
The ideas of armed guards, metal detectors and shrink exams are a pipe dream. The costs are massive and not guaranteed to work.
Sad but it is a part of life, it has happened and it will happen again.
The past few days watching American news and interviews and stuff like that and I have come to learn that
in the U.S.
Gun, has nothing to do with Gun violence
Not that these will change anything but interesting reading.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/02/australia-ambassador-on-why-gun-laws-cant-save-america/553655/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/australia/australia-gun-ban-shooting.html
in the U.S.
Gun, has nothing to do with Gun violence
Not that these will change anything but interesting reading.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/02/australia-ambassador-on-why-gun-laws-cant-save-america/553655/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/australia/australia-gun-ban-shooting.html
LOL, good one
But sorry to inform you that blacks have been using other tools of killing for long long time and
nothing has been done about it (They don't need to do any mass buying of AR-15 on Monday).
Per some American statistics the average annual murder rate in the U.S is about 35.000,
AR-15 does not play a major role in the total picture).
I'm afraid to say that that in this case, the Arabs buying AR-15s are on their own.
There’s also private collection. That is a legitimate reason in Canada for acquiring a firearms permit, including handguns.
Please remind me not to hire you the day I need someone to get a job done. This is exactly the kind of spineless answer the NRA loves to hear.
Yeah... Don't need a job. BTW, loved your comment about a simple solution to solve this issue, bring some army personal back, what some 5,000 to 6,000 to sit in schools and metal detecters ( I swear ). You really thought this one out well. There are probably over 200,000 schools with about 500,000 entrances. Yes, simple.
I am a realist, shit happens in life, unpleasant shit that should not happen. Kids get raped by pedophiles, women get beaten by men, drunks kill people while driving.
I am for capital punishment, murderers should be killed, pedophiles and rapists public castration and 20 yrs in jail common area not hidden away with the other pervs, drunk drivers who kill 20 yrs.
Spineless are the ones who feel sorry for the criminals and want to give them a third or fourth chance.
( I swear )...
Sorry, still laugh at that and your way out there " simple " solution.
I simple solution would be to automatically put a bullet in someones head when they try to kill, rape, drink and drive etc, after the first few the rest would perhaps think twice.
Gun control will not happen in the USA, even weak Canada tried a failed $2 billion gun registry, think Americans will be more welcoming.
Working for you would be like spinning your wheels in mud, make a lot of noise but go no where.
Edit: coffee and banana bread break.
Is it just the gun thing that bothers you or is it the amount of lives lost? If you are pissed about innocent people seeing there are far more serious deaths, drunk drivers. Millions of incidents a year and over 10,000 deaths, if you were the POTUS, what would be your simple solution? Alcohol restrictions, someone who drinks can not have a drivers license, have trained people at all pub exits looking for drunk drivers. Perhaps have a requirement to have a shrinks certificate to be able to purchase alcohol.
I know a few are thinking, that is stupid.... really?
Teens Stage Lie-In At White House
https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-3?adkey=bn
Also, the surviving students plan to march on Washington on March 24:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43105701
No word yet on whether the NRA will organize a counter-protest.
https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-3?adkey=bn
Also, the surviving students plan to march on Washington on March 24:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43105701
No word yet on whether the NRA will organize a counter-protest.
Ok then let's just send our prayers and do sweet fuckall about the killings (because it's too soon, because it would cost too much and because "gun control doesn't work" and oh! Almost forgot! the 2nd Amendment!...)
1. It's never too soon. That's a stupid ass thing people say to make the Administration's critics shut up (i.e. "you seem more interested in policies than in the poor victims" kinda guilt feeling they want you to have. Then, in the same comment, people like that bitch and complain about too many Muslim refugees being allowed in *sigh*)
2. Costs too much? The US spends $68B yearly on its army and now the big orange clownfish wants to blow $20B on a fucking wall. Priorities?
3. Gun control doesn't work except in Australia, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland, England, Spain and the list goes on.
4. Any constitutionalist with a brain says the the 2nd Amendment needs to be understood in the proper context.
Cut the bullcrap please. The US is a failed nation at many levels and its policy makers are too corrupt and weak to do what it takes to stop the massacre.
1. It's never too soon. That's a stupid ass thing people say to make the Administration's critics shut up (i.e. "you seem more interested in policies than in the poor victims" kinda guilt feeling they want you to have. Then, in the same comment, people like that bitch and complain about too many Muslim refugees being allowed in *sigh*)
2. Costs too much? The US spends $68B yearly on its army and now the big orange clownfish wants to blow $20B on a fucking wall. Priorities?
3. Gun control doesn't work except in Australia, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland, England, Spain and the list goes on.
4. Any constitutionalist with a brain says the the 2nd Amendment needs to be understood in the proper context.
Cut the bullcrap please. The US is a failed nation at many levels and its policy makers are too corrupt and weak to do what it takes to stop the massacre.
But the solution is not as simple as you think, you blurt out soldiers and metal detectors as if anyone could see your solution as simple.
First of all you would need 500,000 soldiers ( protecters ) with your plan and it would not help 100% second with the metal detectors, very low on the prevention side, not much thought put into it. Airports have metal protecters to keep weapons off airplanes not out of the airport or they would be at the main entrance, some schools have metal detectors but they are from keeping gang members from bringing in knives and a small percentage of guns.
Once a " mass killer " is near the metal detector he is already in the building, kill the min wage guy manning the detector and shoot away.
You had 2 very " simple " plans that have no way of working 100% even 50% would be pushing it.
Gun control will not happen in the US.
First of all you would need 500,000 soldiers ( protecters ) with your plan and it would not help 100% second with the metal detectors, very low on the prevention side, not much thought put into it. Airports have metal protecters to keep weapons off airplanes not out of the airport or they would be at the main entrance, some schools have metal detectors but they are from keeping gang members from bringing in knives and a small percentage of guns.
Once a " mass killer " is near the metal detector he is already in the building, kill the min wage guy manning the detector and shoot away.
You had 2 very " simple " plans that have no way of working 100% even 50% would be pushing it.
Gun control will not happen in the US.
I will agree that fully automatic weapons should need a shrink test and a damn good reason to own one. To make taxpayers pay for metal detectors ( $ 2 billion plus maintenance ) and/or hire 400,000 security guards to solve a high of 40% of an issue that causes very few mass killings.
This is part of a graph from 2012 to 2018.
Sixteen of the 239 shootings shown below can be classified as mass shootings, events in which four or more people are shot.
On average, there have been about five school shootings each month, including episodes that were not mass shootings.
" Also in the article, these numbers include a gun going off in someones backpack and a couple of suicides."
Not saying every life is not valuable but the cost to secure all schools is far to high, billions of school kids do not get shot on a daily basis.
One way to assist in all crime is to make the punishment severe. You catch a school killer or any mass murderer put a bullet in his/her head and bury them, no name in the papers they are just gone. Rapists or pedophiles, put them in general population justice would be served. Laws or regulations are no concerns of criminals, they will commit their crime one way or another. You need to make them think twice before they decide to commit their crime.
Drunk drivers worry me more than some fucked up person who decides to kill a few people, 400 deaths compared to 10,000
This is part of a graph from 2012 to 2018.
Sixteen of the 239 shootings shown below can be classified as mass shootings, events in which four or more people are shot.
On average, there have been about five school shootings each month, including episodes that were not mass shootings.
" Also in the article, these numbers include a gun going off in someones backpack and a couple of suicides."
Not saying every life is not valuable but the cost to secure all schools is far to high, billions of school kids do not get shot on a daily basis.
One way to assist in all crime is to make the punishment severe. You catch a school killer or any mass murderer put a bullet in his/her head and bury them, no name in the papers they are just gone. Rapists or pedophiles, put them in general population justice would be served. Laws or regulations are no concerns of criminals, they will commit their crime one way or another. You need to make them think twice before they decide to commit their crime.
Drunk drivers worry me more than some fucked up person who decides to kill a few people, 400 deaths compared to 10,000
I think one of the biggest problems we have is the media coverage they give the shooter. The shooter knows that they can gain more notoriety in their day of infamy than they ever would in their miserable lives. How many warped minds are watching the 24 -hour news cycle thinking I ought to cash in on my 15 minutes of fame?
The media should take a page out of the sports broadcaster's book. This is somewhat analogous to the streaking issue of the 70's and 80's (with much less dire consequences of course). At first, they used to put them on TV and black out the reproductive organs and pretty soon, every event would be disrupted by a streaker. At some point, all the networks got together and they stopped giving these guys a platform. The cameras would break away from the action and the guys in the booth would say "We have an idiot disrupting the game" and that was it. They didn't even say the word streaker.
Another thing about the shooter...I don't want to see his face and know his name. I don't want to see his classmates and neighbors interviewed. I do not want to see any video or to be read any note that the shooter left behind, etc. I do not think it is the entire answer but it is a good start.
I also think that gun free zones should be renamed shooting galleries. Having a photo of a gun with a circle and a line through it has never made anyone safer. There are confident individuals that should be able to carry concealed in some of these places.
The media should take a page out of the sports broadcaster's book. This is somewhat analogous to the streaking issue of the 70's and 80's (with much less dire consequences of course). At first, they used to put them on TV and black out the reproductive organs and pretty soon, every event would be disrupted by a streaker. At some point, all the networks got together and they stopped giving these guys a platform. The cameras would break away from the action and the guys in the booth would say "We have an idiot disrupting the game" and that was it. They didn't even say the word streaker.
Another thing about the shooter...I don't want to see his face and know his name. I don't want to see his classmates and neighbors interviewed. I do not want to see any video or to be read any note that the shooter left behind, etc. I do not think it is the entire answer but it is a good start.
I also think that gun free zones should be renamed shooting galleries. Having a photo of a gun with a circle and a line through it has never made anyone safer. There are confident individuals that should be able to carry concealed in some of these places.
We think the same Hungry. See my post 27. Fuck and ignore the shooter at all cost! By doing this it's clear shooters are saying a big fuck you to the world. Remove the possibility to anyone to know who they are and they will think twice. Completely agree!
Cheers,
Cheers,
Negan....
Your swing produces a bunt in the pitcher's hands...
Did you see with which countries you take the comparisons? Honduras, Guatemala, Jamaica, El Salvador, Panama, Colombia... All those countries have third World economies and poor education system.
Your swing produces a bunt in the pitcher's hands...
Did you see with which countries you take the comparisons? Honduras, Guatemala, Jamaica, El Salvador, Panama, Colombia... All those countries have third World economies and poor education system.
Oh! That's just 12,000 homicides every year. Almost just as safe as Italy (260 homicides), Canada (136 homicides), Japan (0 homicide), Poland (15 homicides).......... Everything is good then!
Another stat on gun violence.
In 2013, firearm deaths accounted for over 11 percent of all years of potential life lost among the black population, but less than 6 percent of all years of potential life lost among the white population.
White suicides, black homicides
Gun deaths also vary dramatically by type. The vast majority (77 percent) of white gun deaths are suicides; less than one in five (19 percent) is a homicide. These figures are nearly opposite in the black population, where only 14 percent of gun deaths are suicides but 82 percent are homicides:
The firearm homicide rate among black men aged 20-29 is about 89 per 100,000.To put that fact in some international perspective, in Honduras—the country with the highest recorded homicide rate—there were 90.4 intentional murders per 100,000 people in 2012. That includes all means, not just firearm homicides.
In 2013, firearm deaths accounted for over 11 percent of all years of potential life lost among the black population, but less than 6 percent of all years of potential life lost among the white population.
White suicides, black homicides
Gun deaths also vary dramatically by type. The vast majority (77 percent) of white gun deaths are suicides; less than one in five (19 percent) is a homicide. These figures are nearly opposite in the black population, where only 14 percent of gun deaths are suicides but 82 percent are homicides:
The firearm homicide rate among black men aged 20-29 is about 89 per 100,000.To put that fact in some international perspective, in Honduras—the country with the highest recorded homicide rate—there were 90.4 intentional murders per 100,000 people in 2012. That includes all means, not just firearm homicides.
The left is easily manipulated, during the last Canadian election the media had a big hand in getting Harper out, so many people now regret voting for Justine. Then the gorilla was shot in the zoo people went into a frenzy about a gorilla being killed, did not give a fuck that gorillas have been slaughtered in the past. People here were foaming at the mouth about Trump, impeachment, will not last one term, Russia scandals.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450753/mainstream-media-left-wing-bias-classic-example
