GF used to be an SP

[Flyingby]

The worst thing about that *job* the way they describe it , it’s being in a world of pure fantasy with nice hotel, fancy meals, big car and money, money, money. But the honesty for themselves, it’s a empty basket and no real life.
When they will realize it will be be to late.
Very sad but it’s the REAL thing!

I think you are correct for over 80% of the girls. But there is a minority who will get out of it with a paid condo, a paid car, new boobs a paid mba. Lots of jewelry. And a smirk on her face thinking. Look at what you fuckers bought for me!
the other 80% lived the good life for a little bit. Then boom. Reality caught up and they wonder if it was worth it

 

[Fradi]

I agree unfortunately the vast majority have no idea how to manage money, and they spend it as fast as they make it.
It is really too bad I wish some of the smart ones would make it a point to take some of the other ladies under their wings and show them how to make a lasting living out of this.
Sometimes the hardest part is not just knowing how to make money but how to invest and manage it for your future.

 

[transatlantic]

Not GF used to be SP. Wife is allegedly a SP.

NYC surgeon seeking divorce claims beauty queen wife led secret life as high-priced call girl: court documents

A prominent Manhattan spinal surgeon’s storybook marriage to a one-time beauty queen turned irreversibly ugly after he stumbled upon her secret life as a high-end hooker, according to stunning court documents obtained by the Daily News. Dr. Han Jo Kim seeks an annulment of his once-happy union...

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[mr_scorpio]

Not GF used to be SP. Wife is allegedly a SP.

NYC surgeon seeking divorce claims beauty queen wife led secret life as high-priced call girl: court documents

A prominent Manhattan spinal surgeon’s storybook marriage to a one-time beauty queen turned irreversibly ugly after he stumbled upon her secret life as a high-end hooker, according to stunning court documents obtained by the Daily News. Dr. Han Jo Kim seeks an annulment of his once-happy union...

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To marry someone based on a lie like that is disgusting and despicable. Hopefully she will go down for tax evasion and get zero financial settlement from her husband.

 

[Hunterzzzzz]

The fact that you out emphase on her being an ex SP. she is your partner. Identifying her as an ex SP Will make her past career always in your mind. You are clearly not comfortable or you won’t ask the question. Are you insecure? Do you think she will compare you to many guys she had before? When you guys will have an argument, Will you bring her past on the table? If you can’t be comfortable with her past, you will never have a real, trusting, comfortable relationship with her. The fact that you asked this question make me think this relationship is already going down the drain.
PS: Did you involuntary found out she is an ex SP or she told you upfront? Did you tell her you used to be an ex hobbyist as well? How much trust is there really between both of you

 

[Doggyluver]

I had a relationship with an SP ( she was still working when I met her ) that lasted 6 1/2 years. She lived with me and we enjoyed a wonderful life together. Unfortunately she cheated on me and our time together ended. I remain friends with her and although she is no longer in a relationship with the guy she cheated with, she is in a happy long term relationship with another man . I don't believe that working as an SP defines someone nor does it make them untouchable as partners,

 

[mr_scorpio]

I had a relationship with an SP ( she was still working when I met her ) that lasted 6 1/2 years. She lived with me and we enjoyed a wonderful life together. Unfortunately she cheated on me and our time together ended. I remain friends with her and although she is no longer in a relationship with the guy she cheated with, she is in a happy long term relationship with another man . I don't believe that working as an SP defines someone nor does it make them untouchable as partners,

You are right that working as an sp does not define someone, however withholding the truth from a life partner does and goes straight to character. She should have told him that she was continuing to work so he could decide if he would be ok with it or not.

 

[Eric23]

Sorry to burst some of you guys' bubbles, but working as an SP does define who you are. It's not just "another job". A woman who does that for a living has personality issues. I'm not saying you shouldn't date her. Just like I wouldn't say that you shouldn't date a single mother (I probably wouldn't). I'm saying you should accept the fact that she does have a personality issue but date her knowing that. Don't lie to yourself.

And the sorority girl who slept with 20 guys in college is completely different from an SP. She also had offers from 300 other guys to have sex that she rejected because she didn't like them. That's a big difference psychologically from someone who has sex with everyone who offers you money even if you find them disgusting.

 

[Numerati]

Sorry to burst some of you guys' bubbles, but working as an SP does define who you are. It's not just "another job". A woman who does that for a living has personality issues. I'm not saying you shouldn't date her. Just like I wouldn't say that you shouldn't date a single mother (I probably wouldn't). I'm saying you should accept the fact that she does have a personality issue but date her knowing that. Don't lie to yourself.

And the sorority girl who slept with 20 guys in college is completely different from an SP. She also had offers from 300 other guys to have sex that she rejected because she didn't like them. That's a big difference psychologically from someone who has sex with everyone who offers you money even if you find them disgusting.

Simply put you are paying full price for a used car. A very used car.

Yet with women these days SP or not you are always paying full ticket price. It is just about the mileage. Ahhh what and who I am kidding as long she doesn't have an incurable STD and you can't park your car in there is good enough nowadays. LOL.

This is the dynamics between men and women. With women it is about the FUTURE. She doesn't really care how many girls you banged and dumped your load on/in before she met you. With guys is is about her PAST. Bros get hung up and focus on how many people she slept with before you two got together.

 

[alan]

Sorry to burst some of you guys' bubbles, but working as an SP does define who you are. It's not just "another job". A woman who does that for a living has personality issues. I'm not saying you shouldn't date her. Just like I wouldn't say that you shouldn't date a single mother (I probably wouldn't). I'm saying you should accept the fact that she does have a personality issue but date her knowing that. Don't lie to yourself.

And the sorority girl who slept with 20 guys in college is completely different from an SP. She also had offers from 300 other guys to have sex that she rejected because she didn't like them. That's a big difference psychologically from someone who has sex with everyone who offers you money even if you find them disgusting.

Sorry to bust your bubble
but does the fact we are hobbyist does it mean we also all having personality issues ?

Nothing in life is black or white
... And you can't said that they have personality issue and U the guy that go see them is fine ...

Some of the girl might have personality issue ... just like some of the guy on this board or hobbyist might also have personality issue but you can't said that all of us have personality issue ...

Tell me why would you go to to see unstable girl and do review about them ?

Don't judge a book by its cover ...

 

[Eric23]

Sorry to bust your bubble
but does the fact we are hobbyist does it mean we also all having personality issues ?

Nothing in life is black or white
... And you can't said that they have personality issue and U the guy that go see them is fine ...

Some of the girl might have personality issue ... just like some of the guy on this board or hobbyist might also have personality issue but you can't said that all of us have personality issue ...

Tell me why would you go to to see unstable girl and do review about them ?

Don't judge a book by its cover ...

If you don't understand the difference between a man who can pay to have sex whenever he feels like it, and a woman who's job it is to lie to and sleep with hundred's of men she doesn't like then I don't know what to tell you.

It's fine if you accept to date a person with issues. Sounds like you already fell in love with an SP or you believed her lies. That's your prerogative and something you accept. What I'm saying is that a girl who's an SP for a living does have some underlying psychological issues whether you like it or not. Whether I like it or not. There might be a rare 0.1% of them who have to do it. But for most of them, it is a choice they're making. It's not the same as dating a girl who works in an office 9-5.

Everyone has some kind of issue, but I would probably never date an SP seriously. I say probably because her other traits would have to be superb for me to overlook the fact that she decided to sleep with hundred's of random men for money. She's also a professional liar. She lies for a living. I would also never date an extremely religious person (some faith is ok), a racist, a junkie or a pedophile. These 4 are worst than an SP to me, but all 5 of them have mental issues that I wouldn't want to deal with from a serious partner.

 

[Red Paul]

A woman who does that for a living has personality issues.

Can you prove that, as in citing some scientific research? Or does it just seem to you that it must be the case?

 

[alan]

If you don't understand the difference between a man who can pay to have sex whenever he feels like it, and a woman who's job it is to lie to and sleep with hundred's of men she doesn't like then I don't know what to tell you.

It's fine if you accept to date a person with issues. Sounds like you already fell in love with an SP or you believed her lies. That's your prerogative and something you accept. What I'm saying is that a girl who's an SP for a living does have some underlying psychological issues whether you like it or not. Whether I like it or not. There might be a rare 0.1% of them who have to do it. But for most of them, it is a choice they're making. It's not the same as dating a girl who works in an office 9-5.

Everyone has some kind of issue, but I would probably never date an SP seriously. I say probably because her other traits would have to be superb for me to overlook the fact that she decided to sleep with hundred's of random men for money. She's also a professional liar. She lies for a living. I would also never date an extremely religious person (some faith is ok), a racist, a junkie or a pedophile. These 4 are worst than an SP to me, but all 5 of them have mental issues that I wouldn't want to deal with from a serious partner.

no go tell people that you paid to have sex and see what they will think about U ... in your story it's normal for the guy to do it and that they don't have any thing wrong with them ... You are the judge , the jury and the executioner ...

 

[GreyPilgrim]

A woman who does that for a living has personality issues.

Oh, boy…

Before this gets out of hand, and it will, let me just say that your statement, right there, is one huge generalization. Huge. Just because someone doesn’t share your specific set of values or has another perspective on the implications of sex doesn’t instantly mean they are unstable or have personality issues.

It‘s a choice they‘ve made. That much is true. But who are you to pass judgement on the reasons that may or may not have motivated that decision? And to make assumptions their character or guess at their personality based on that choice… I’m sorry but that‘s just clumsy.

In any case, the question you should really ask yourself is…
What does paying to take advantage of girls you perceive as having personality issues really tells about your character?

 

[Fradi]

^^^^^^
This was all good until you got to the part where you perceive that he is taking advantage of girls by paying. Here you are making the very same kind of judgement.
I struggled with this for quite sometime before finally deciding to see an escort, who turned into being my ATF and I have been seeing her ever since. I will always consider myself so lucky to have met such an amazing young lady.
What I realized is first I am seeing someone who made the decision on her own to be in this line of work and she is not being coerced in any way.
Whether I see an escort or not is not going to make her stop her activities or change her life, but at least I know for a fact that the time she spends with me, she will be treated with kindness and respect, she won’t have to worry about her safety or not receiving full value for her time.

 

[alan]

So I guess the man that kill Marylène Levesque had no personality issues
and he was only paying to have sex whenever he feels like it , it was only Marylène that had personality
issue because she was an SP is that it?
...

 

[Jordd]

The difference between her and the other woman is both of you know their past .
When you date other woman they don't
know that you use to be a hobbyists

And most women won’t tell you what they were up to in their early years...

 

[Jordd]

Problem with dating (ex)escorts:

1. Almost all of them will think of how much $ they could have made each time you have sex
2. They've done pretty much everything already in terms of sex, and everything would become a routine
3. Just like with girls who have high body counts, there will be comparisons between you and the past clients in their mind. (this applies to any girl who had a relationship in the past, but exacerbated in this case)

Agree, except that she will be more open emotionally with her partner IRL versus client. It will be the real her, rather than the act.

 

[Jordd]

Her comment says so much about the dynamics of this hobby. I used to think SPs looked down on their clients for needing them. Only later did I realize the SPs detested clients because they hated themselves. That's when I said goodbye for good.

Yet, you are still on this board and contributing?!?

 

[Jordd]

it’s like this thread has in some way opened up a can of worms... Bottom line is how many guys would date a women knowing she was a Former SP?

Definitely a can of worms!
The whole point of seeing an SP is so you don’t have to date/be in a relationship! (For me anyways)

in civilian life how many single guys would date a divorcee with a young kid or more ?

Very few (not me).