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poupsy

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Well, Netanyahu is committed to wipe out Palestinians and wants the whole region to become Israel. So it is not self defense, unless you are assuming that Palestinians are guilty just because they are Palestinians, and happened to be born on that land. Hamas and Hezbollah, if like you said, are bent on destroying Israel, they are not the whole people. If Israel wants peace, there are so many Palestinians and Arabs willing, and they have tried with the Oslo agreement. Blockade, massacres, and settlements increase are the complete opposite of peace.
I am going to repeat one of my favorite quotes" it is not who you are underneath, its what you do that defines you". Terrorism is terrorism, coming from a group or an army. The conventions and treaties after world war 2 are set to minimize the first. Natenyahu does not care, and will keep going.
You are dead wrong and you know it
Israel is not interested in Gaza. No one is actually interest in Gaza
Egyptian didn’t want it when israel gave back thow whole sinai for peace with egypt. ( do you even know how bigvsinai is??)
Israel left gaza without any conditions and hamas turned it into a shit hole of terror. Even the egyptians are imposing a blockad so please don’t give us the bullshit of the open air prison
It is israel that was providing water and electricity to gaze. Israeli doctors where actually treating gazaans in israeli hospitals
Those hamas and hezbollah fuckers don’t want any jews .. how the fuck are you supposed to deal with a psycho whonis obsessed with killing you???
 
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Hamas and Hezbollah, if like you said, are bent on destroying Israel, they are not the whole people. If Israel wants peace, there are so many Palestinians and Arabs willing, and they have tried with the Oslo agreement. Blockade, massacres, and settlements increase are the complete opposite of peace.
This is where your logic completely breaks down. If enough Palestinians wanted peace- and enough is the key word here, because all are indoctrinated to hate Israel from birth- they wouldn't have had the leadership they have had for 80 years now with no results. What happened was they lost very badly in 3 wars they started. You have no idea how badly, and it wasn't because the U.S.A was helping Israel, because the other side had even more significant armament from the USSR. It was due to incompetent leadership, politically and militarily, and total disorganization and disarray in the battlefield. And I know this from family members who fought and observed it in the battlefield. They fought well armed, but ineptly led and disorganized troops that scattered and ran as soon as the Israelis repelled their attacks.

After traditional military attacks failed and resulted in humiliating defeats in 3 separate wars they started, the Palestinian leadership turned to terrorism and repeated civilian attacks in the last 50 years. This hasn't worked either. So it's up to the Palestinian people to change their leaders but they can't. You know why? Because their leaders rape the country economically, keep the people powerless and indoctrinated while Abbas and his comrades live like Kings, in Castles. He is worth $100 million and they can't touch him, and he consolidates his power by keeping the people down, ignorant, and indoctrinated that Israel is the reason for all their problems. This has been going on for 50 years now and with no change. At some point it has to stop. The Palestinians are going backwards, not forwards.

As far as the settlements, they are and have been a problem, and it's due to the religious right in Israel, which is prevalent in this area. They actually harassed my own family members for "improper dress", and called one of them a whore. They harass Jews not up to their religious standards as well as Arab "nonbelievers." Equal opportunity dispossessors. For reasons beyond the scope of this thread, the Israeli Orthodox and religious right Jews have WAY more political power than they deserve, and they are primarily responsible for that situation and the way Netanyahu is acting. Israel isn't a country that is without fault or problems, and the 2 major ones are the religious's right and it's disproportionate power based on their numbers, and the lack of power of the judicial branch over the executive. When the President basically overrules the Supreme Court by executive order, it's a big problem.
 

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Not sure where you get your news from man, but they are always missing. You see Hezbollah is not only a militant group, they are a political, and a social one. The fighters, which your likes believe to be terrorists, had low casualties. Most if the casualties belonged to the 2 other groups.
As far as I know Hezbollah has been designated as the terrorist organization by more than 20 countries including US, Canada, European Union and many Arab countries. And you know how you name the members of the terrorist organization? Yes, the terrorists. Sure, some countries such as Iran, North Korea and Russia do not agree and consider Hezbollah to be the good guys. So, you are morally in a “good” company but probably in the wrong country physically.
 
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bullshit of the open air prison
And yet that what it is exactly. Your denying does not make it the opposite. Why would Egypt want it? They are not colonialist, and it is not part of Egypt. and they never imposed a blockade, you are misinformed. They were following Israeli instructions regarding what goes in from the borders.
You can deny reality as much as you want, the truth remains that it is Palestinians civilians, and kids that are killed, Palestinians schools, homes and hospitals that are destroyed, not Israel's. Meanwhile, from the other side, i only see Tanks destroyed, and military killed. You cannot distort realities anymore.
actually treating gazaans in israeli hospitals
Proof that Netanyahu and people like him are the problem. Peace is possible between Palestinians and Israelis.
how the fuck are you supposed to deal with a psycho whonis obsessed with killing you
So you go kill the innocent to prove those psycho right and increase their popularity?.
As far as I know Hezbollah has been designated as the terrorist organization by more than 20 countries including US, Canada, European Union and many Arab countries. And you know how you name the members of the terrorist organization? Yes, the terrorists. Sure, some countries such as Iran, North Korea and Russia do not agree and consider Hezbollah to be the good guys. So, you are morally in a “good” company but probably in the wrong country physically.
It is not up to you to decide if I am in the right country or not. As far as I am concerned, it is ideas like yours that have put us in a declining path. Our morality and values were our biggest strength, and now those leaders have wiped out the floor with it. We only need to look at your comment to understand how our freedom of speech and thoughts are impacted. When killing kids is justified with self defense, it just proves how deep we are sinking.
 

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It is not up to you to decide if I am in the right country or not. As far as I am concerned, it is ideas like yours that have put us in a declining path. Our morality and values were our biggest strength, and now those leaders have wiped out the floor with it.
Fare enough. My bad. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. The difference is that I can help Israel physically and financially as it is not against the law. Helping Hezbollah however is. So, as soon as it is only an opinion you have all rights to freely express it.
 

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Hezbollah made a big mistake today. Hopefully Israel go as hard and without mercy as they did Hamas. We have enough of these terrorist groups. Lebanon was once a Christian peacefull nation (and im an Atheist, not a Christian myself). It was corrupted by jihadist idelogies.

Israel told them many times to BACK OFF. They didn't listen.

So whatever Israel do , lets go !! Finish the fight !
 

poupsy

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Hezbollah made a big mistake today. Hopefully Israel go as hard and without mercy as they did Hamas. We have enough of these terrorist groups. Lebanon was once a Christian peacefull nation (and im an Atheist, not a Christian myself). It was corrupted by jihadist idelogies.

Israel told them many times to BACK OFF. They didn't listen.

So whatever Israel do , lets go !! Finish the fight !
Israel has been very patient i think
Almost a year of daily rocket attacks. Unfortunately for them they didn’t want to back off where they aggreed in 2006
I know many lebaneeses Christians who are vert happy that israel does the job that the lebaneese government can’t do
 

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Thank you to the IDF, the Mossad and the state of Israel for eliminating these ruthless terrorists last Saturday. Great job! Keep up the good work!



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poupsy

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Thank you to the IDF, the Mossad and the state of Israel for eliminating these ruthless terrorists last Saturday. Great job! Keep up the good work!



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After seing all the joy and celebration in the Arab world I hope this can bring a new positive dynamic in the region
Iran is definitely weaken and doesn’t know what to do at this point
God bless the democraties of this world
 
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ISRAEL under missile attack/IRAN....seems under control for now.....
 

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Fin is cherry picking with the UN Resolutions in a way that is ridiculous. The very first one which was probably the fairest one was rejected in a mass walkout and caused an armed invasion of Israel. How do you keep losing wars you started again and again due to incompetent leadership both politically and militarily and get to have an upper hand in any new post war resolutions? In what universe does this make any sense? In fact the US and Canada invaded Native American lands, not the other way around. Has USA or Canada been subject to any resolutions to give land back? The USA and Canada were never attacked by Native Americans except in isolated situations after their lands had already been invaded and controlled. So how does this UN resolution cherry picking work in the world of historical logic?

At what time in history ever did a country that started a war and lost gotten land back?
This one is easy. You are probably too young. Hitler started a war in Europe, invade France and had to give it back and even lost his proper land.
 
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silkandvelvet

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Thank you to the IDF, the Mossad and the state of Israel for eliminating these ruthless terrorists last Saturday. Great job! Keep up the good work!



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Destroying a country, bonbardins school and hospital ......you call that a good job........ I wish you were in other planet.
 

silkandvelvet

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ISRAEL under missile attack/IRAN....seems under control for now.....
An attach of IRAN could mean a global war. I do not thing the USA would go along this repost. This is why there are multiple meeting at high level. The support of USA to Isreal is not infinite and could end. I do not think USA want to go to war along Israel against IRAN. So Israel will have to learn when to stop destroying his neagbors.
 
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poupsy

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An attach of IRAN could mean a global war. I do not thing the USA would go along this repost. This is why there are multiple meeting at high level. The support of USA to Isreal is not infinite and could end. I do not think USA want to go to war along Israel against IRAN. So Israel will have to learn when to stop destroying his neagbors.
And when do you think the neighbors will stop tryng to destroy Israel?
 
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