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I am not. Atheist/Non-Believer.

I spent a lot of time researching on this since Oct 7 2023


Exactly


Obviously not everyone is bad. But as i mentioned previously there is a systemic hatred and religious extremism when it comes to Gaza and even to a degree parts of the Judea and Samaria (Westbank). I made it clear before my problem is not with "Arabs" but it is toward extremist islamists. Both actual terrorists who commit the deeds, but also peoples who support the idea even if they don't commit the atrocities themselves (either promoting it or defending it). I never pretend to speak on behaf of any Jews. And Islam is not a race ;)
No worries. You were telling zero 6. That he didn’t meet a Palestinian so I thought maybe you knew one and that you might be Israeli. I just wondered. Anyways I’m out keep arguing with the others lol. Shabbat shalom Jews Arabs Muslims Christians And everyone else
 

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A bit harsh but true... All in one short.


Neither harsh, nor true. Just incredibly dumb. (this is what's harsh and true lol)

That's a remarkably stupid "argument" (if that's what it is). The projection is predictable but still amusing. Are you serious, though? Is this your idea of learning?

First, are you aware that he's engaging in nakba/atrocity denial? If that's not clear, that's really vile. And that to do so, he's also either dishonest or stupid. It's quite the combo.

I'd recommend taking 4min to read the very basic that your racist shitbag probably wasn't taught in his indoctrination program. It's literally on wikipedia. The massacres and ethnic cleansing started long before the Arab armies arrived and you could barely call it a war. The Palestinians didn't have the weapons to fight and most of their leaders had been killed or exiled less than a decade before to quash the revolt. People like the shitbag in that video have made up their own versions of history but I'm not sure why you would give him any credibility when it's verifiable information and he's a raging supremacist racist.


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Considering that it's not hard to find information, you probably don't want to look to the shitbag for your education. if you don't want to read a book, feel free to get your education from educated sources. There are many, here are a few suggestions: short introduction by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe (there are tons of longer ones, he's great), a longer one by Canadian lawyer & Professor Dr Ardi Imseis & the excellent documentaries 1948: Creation & Catastrophe and Tantura


















I will say this. Unless you were intentionally wanting to signal your ideological alignment with far right, islamophobic, pro illegal occupation, pro illegal land theft & dispossession, I would encourage you to reconsider your sources of information, perhaps learning how to vet these sources. You didn't pick some random harmless helpful dude, you picked a legit extremists. That isn't something you can distance yourself from if you are also going to share videos as if there's nothing wrong. There's literally nothing true about what he says. I have to say it caught be off guard that you're this level of hateful (and wrong). He's a propagandist. "Advocacy" is Israeli speak for "Hasbara", which is propaganda.


Without this being an exhaustive list, it's a pretty representative overview of who you are sharing as "harsh but true". If that's intentional and you knew all this and share the same beliefs and values, I'd like to point out those are not what people who brag about superior "western values" of the "civilized. This guy is the very opposite of that. So you'll have to pick one but both are not compatible with one another. And last thing before I dive in, I believe you are mistaken in believing that this has become normal, acceptable values or positions in basic normal society. This is someone you share on a far right reddit sub, some dark corner of twitter but it is most definitely not normal. I'm going to assume that you are simply in need of some education to learn digital media literacy skills, including vetting of sources as well as quality of the information or content you consume and that you did not bother to look into who you were trusting, agreeing and seemingly recommending. I'll assume good intentions unless you tell me otherwise. But no matter what, please don't suggest you're learning in the same breath as you share this. Because the one thing you can be sure here, is that learning (in the common understanding of what learning means) is not what you are doing or will ever be doing with this guy.


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Without going into what he says or supports in relation to Gaza (I can imagine), given it's immediately obvious he hold extremists views on the West Bank (which he refers to as Judea and Samaria, places that do not exist on any maps other than Israeli maps) and the illegal, criminal settlers so these are the views that are part of it: Support for dispossession of Palestinians, violence by illegal settlers towards Palestinians, actual recognized (including by our government) terrorism against Palestinians, destruction of property, driving them from their home, emptying out entire village in order to illegally annexe the entire west bank, theft of natural resources, water, roads for Jews only, checkpoints for Palestinians, night raids in homes to kidnap kids and take them away blindfolded (who are then subjected to torture, have no right to have their parents there, or a lawyer. Some are coerced into signing document in Hebrew, which they can't read. Many being put under administrative detention, which means indefinitely without ever being charged, renewed every 6 months, sometimes up to 2 years. They are the only children in the world who are subjected to military courts, which have a 98% conviction rate. Imagine that. Oh, throwing rocks at their tormentors (occupation soldiers) is categorized as terrorism by Israel. If you'd like me to keep going, I easily can. I've barely scratched the surface and haven't dug at all for info. I found your teacher on the website of a group (Im Tirzu, far right extremist settlers of course) that was responsible for setting up protest where they blocked aid from going into Gaza and others where they destroyed aid going to Gaza. Nice people.




If you're into that, you should watch the recent Louis Theroux BBC special about the terrorist settlers in the West Bank who are salivating at taking Gaza as well once this phase of ethnic cleansing is completed as the outcome of this genocide. Israel has kicked up the plans for illegal annexation there too and thousands of Palestinians have been killed and expelled from their homes and villages since October 2023:

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Yesterday, two Israeli human rights organizations, B’Tselem, and Physicians for Human Rights -- Israel, have joined the long list of academics & organizations who have come to the conclusion that Israel is committing a genocide. In its report, B’Tselem examined Israel’s policies in Gaza and statements made by senior Israeli politicians and military commanders on its goals in the enclave.

"Explicit attempt to destroy the population of Gaza and impose living conditions so catastrophic that Palestinian society cannot continue to exist there. That is the exact definition of genocide," B'tselem said.

Meanwhile, PHRI’s report presented a detailed legal analysis of Israel’s war on Gaza, focusing on the dismantling of Gaza’s healthcare system.








".. the leading genocide researchers were “surprisingly unanimous: the Netanyahu cabinet, they say, is in that process – according to the majority even in the final stages. That is why most researchers no longer just speak of ‘genocidal violence’, but of ‘genocide.’”

This includes:
*Dr. Shmuel Lederman, (Open University of Israel, Department of History, Philosophy and Judaic Studies)
*Dirk Moses (Australian professor at the City University of New York and editor-in-chief of the Journal of Genocide Research)
*Prof. Melanie O’Brien (Australian lawyer, researcher at the University of Western Australia and chair of the International Association of Genocide Scholars)
*Prof. Raz Segal (Israeli genocide researcher at Stockton University)
*Martin Shaw (British professor at the Institut Barcelona d’Estudis Internacionals, emeritus professor at the University of Sussex)
*Ugur Ümit Üngör (Dutch professor at the University of Amsterdam and the NIOD Institute for War, Holocaust and Genocide Studies)
*Dr. Iva Vukusic (Croatian genocide researcher at Utrecht University)
*Amos Goldberg (professor in the Department of Jewish History and Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Studies on the Holocaust)


Recently, American-Israeli Holocaust studies academic and expert on genocide Omer Bartov published a detailed explanation in the New York Times, stating he now believed it was genocide.


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Peter Beinart - "Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza: A Reckoning" | The Daily Show​








Before I finish, I'm going to wish for you and others to find your humanity again. I know many of you have either lost it or perhaps didn't have one to begin with but those of us who have spent the last 21 months refusing to let go of ours when it's meant watching the most atrocious cruelty, while cowards around us either looked away or the sickest people rejoiced and defended the targeting of kids by sniper, kids having one or multiple limbs ripped off, dying of infection after surgery or from maggot infested wounds, blown up in their sleep with part of their bodies hanging from a wall, buried dead and alive under the rubble or the sand, bodies in pieces in plastic bags or backpacks, decapitated, burned, shredded, or when they survived but as orphans. The vile denial of hunger, the lies, the propaganda repeated like trained monkeys. Defending in spite of the numerous whistleblowers from the Israeli army detailing their crimes, posting them on social media. You're all going to hit a wall soon, and this sick frenzy or madness that you've been high on is about to hit. And so is the shame. Hopefully you'll find a way to forgive yourselves - those who aren't actual sociopaths - but I never will. We've been watching the ugliest, most disgusting aspects our species is capable of and that will never leave me. I don't know wtf kind of world this is.


21 fucking months of this. Child after child, baby, entire families...wtf is wrong with the world

This is Samira Mohyeddin (x account) , she was a long time CBC journalist/producer but she qui because she couldn’t deat...






Meanwhile in Canada...

Canada has been allowing hundreds of arms shipments to Israel, new report alleges​




 

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Ok look. First of all i said i agree with THIS short, i never said i agreed with everything this guy ever posted. Truth be, he is not the guy i followed the most. Just came across a few of his Ome.TV videos and some shorts. So im not gonna comment on anything else he may have posted elsewhere.
Secondly, no matter how many propaganda article or video you throw at me, im sorry but im not watching them. I don't know why you keep wasting your energy making all this up.

on the West Bank (which he refers to as Judea and Samaria

You do know it is historically Judea and Samaria right?
I'm going to wish for you and others to find your humanity again. I know many of you have either lost it or perhaps didn't have one to begin with but those of us who have spent the last 21 months refusing to let go of ours when it's meant watching the most atrocious cruelty,

My humanity took a deep hit on October 7th 2023. The atrocities i saw (and i only saw the tip, i couldn't watch all) and worst of all the "joy" of the "civilians" in the streets once the terrorists came back and paraded bodies like some hunting trophies, this was the showcase of some truly evil beings (and im not even religious myself)

fucking months of this. Child after child, baby, entire families...wtf is wrong with the world

Why has Hamas not surrendered yet? Isn't it because they count on all those deaths to win the only thing they can win, a propaganda war. Its sickening that they are willing to sacrifice civilians and kids only to try to destroy Israel.

Its too bad, there is a video i can't find again, but it was litterally a Pallywood propaganda piece where they had the SAME EXACT SCENES filmed with different actors. Shot for shot. One of them if i recall correctly had "Mr FAFO" in it. Yet peoples like you fall for that.

And i will finish by saying Islam is not a race, its a religion. I have zero problems with anyone's skin color. "Islamophobia" is a word i refute because a phobia is an irrational fear of something. Its not irrational to fear Islam after the numerous attacks they did on US, UK, France and Israel soil.
 
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As Brigette Gabriel (a Lebanese American Christian) explains so well in this short video, Israel left Gaza to the Palestinians and, with the help of Iran, they turned into into a vast camp for launching terror attacks on Israel. It's sad to imagine what they could have done with it. As a native of Lebanon, Gabriel understands how Islamist extremists can completely ruin a country.

"Israel left Gaza to the Palestinians" is a false statement. It's an open air prison, Palestinians do not have human rights on their own land, air or sea. Every aspect is at the very least covertly controlled by the internationally illegal state of Israel.

To start with, Israel (which did not exist) invaded Palestine in 1948 and not the other way around. Whether people in Gaza are christian, jewish, muslim or satanists is no one's concern.

I really think people have to educate themselves more before judging. If most of you got invaded by the US and they kill and rape your family you'd also be defending Canada or forming some type of "illegal" armed resistance.

I have to put up with daily gruesome images of Israel's actions (for almost two years) but I should be sad because Hamas is in power... lol
 
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Ok look. First of all i said i agree with THIS short, i never said i agreed with everything this guy ever posted. Truth be, he is not the guy i followed the most. Just came across a few of his Ome.TV videos and some shorts. So im not gonna comment on anything else he may have posted elsewhere.
Secondly, no matter how many propaganda article or video you throw at me, im sorry but im not watching them. I don't know why you keep wasting your energy making all this up.



You do know it is historically Judea and Samaria right?


My humanity took a deep hit on October 7th 2023. The atrocities i saw (and i only saw the tip, i couldn't watch all) and worst of all the "joy" of the "civilians" in the streets once the terrorists came back and paraded bodies like some hunting trophies, this was the showcase of some truly evil beings (and im not even religious myself)



Why has Hamas not surrendered yet? Isn't it because they count on all those deaths to win the only thing they can win, a propaganda war. Its sickening that they are willing to sacrifice civilians and kids only to try to destroy Israel.

Its too bad, there is a video i can't find again, but it was litterally a Pallywood propaganda piece where they had the SAME EXACT SCENES filmed with different actors. Shot for shot. One of them if i recall correctly had "Mr FAFO" in it. Yet peoples like you fall for that.

And i will finish by saying Islam is not a race, its a religion. I have zero problems with anyone's skin color. "Islamophobia" is a word i refute because a phobia is an irrational fear of something. Its not irrational to fear Islam after the numerous attacks they did on US, UK, France and Israel soil.

October 7th is atrocious but whatever happened for the last 75 years or so doesn't count. Only what muslim extremists do count. That's your argument.

Got to say Pallywood is sooo superior to Hollywood. Crazy special effects even before AI exploded... Unless, no. Could it be that it was just the reality? By now there's millions of videos, many by Israelis documenting war crimes. Isn't it just possible that within the mobile phone and social media that 99.9% of these are authentic?

You're right most people are not phobic. They just plain dislike muslims. Been at least 15 years about supposed sharia law implementation in Quebec. A bunch of conspiracies that amount to nothing.

And even if it were true it would be nothing close to the millions of middle eastern victims for oil, gas and power caused by the usual suspects.
 

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These aren't nicely organized and there might be some dupes but I'm just leaving this link dump for those who are still pretending there's any kind of moral high ground in cheering on a bunch of genocidal maniacs.

Not in anyway exhaustive, that's impossible lol.


(edit to add: I was just trying to to posts URL's but it posted previews...sorry, makes it a bit bigger than I was trying for . oh well.)



Link to database of videos:

Link to first cctv footage gang rape:

Link to NYT about summary executions & coverup of 15 paramedics:
https://youtu.be/HWhNnf6cXyI

Link to Israeli reaction to rapist soldier arrest”

Link to knesset member supporting “sticks being inserted into the rectum”:

Link to media response to rape:

Links to public statements:

Truth

Links to Gaza famine:
https://x.com/_ZachFoster/status/1945775780501283280
https://x.com/kennardmatt/status/1945874600224522403

Link to GHF death trap:

Israeli forces - consistent patterns of gunshot injuries at GHF sites:
https://youtu.be/WeyWJemtIqQ

Link to GHFAid distribution footage:
https://x.com/receipts_lol/status/1946680176172998670

Link to GHFAid distribution footage:
https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1929153246586621998

Link to GHF whistleblower:

Link to Israelis blocking aid, basics:
https://x.com/intifada/status/1946427291535335595
https://x.com/alitawil92/status/1946145496869081332

No medical treatment available:
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1946021995289956391

Link to soldier comments:

Link to doctor’s letter:

Links to volunteer doctors:

Link to humanitarian org/Arwa Damon:

Links to released male victims:
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1946266315389612259
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ibrahim-salem-sde-teiman-detainee-1.7291048

Link to targeting of medical workers:
https://youtu.be/fVs-tU3NLko

Gaza Doctors Under Attack:
https://youtu.be/ZN6ts-jhW5U

Under Fire: Israel's War On Medics
https://youtu.be/Pu1tOvNtRmU

The Last Doctor Standing | A Documentary about Dr Hussam Abu Safiya:
https://youtu.be/BMEJrAeauxU

Doctors on the frontline: Victoria Rose and Tom Potokar take you inside the war in Gaza

If You’re Still Supporting Israel In 2025, There’s Something Wrong With You As A Person

Link to soldiers tiktok war crimes:

Link to soldier demolitions (“flattening Gaza):

Link to soldiers using hospital and schools as military bases:

Link to soldiers destroying medical equipment:

Link to soldiers human shields report”

Human shield:

Link to hospital attack, lies:

Link to soldiers hospital siege (Al Shifa 2nd time)

Al Shifa Hospital: The Crimes They Tried To Bury:

Israeli forces attack Gaza’s al-Shifa hospital:

Al-Shifa Hospital: Annihilation and Resilience

Link to soldiers hospital attack (Al Ahli):

Destruction of medical infrastructure:

Link to destruction of only cancer hospital:

Link to IDF war crimes (hospitals):

Link to soldiers hospital Nasr:

Link to soldiers murders children:

Link to soldiers leaving premature babies to die:

Humanitarian camouflage:

Gaza’s generation of amputees

Link to soldiers looting:
https://www.972mag.com/israeli-soldiers-looting-gaza/

West Bank:

Gaza & Lebanon:

Home demolition: https://x.com/DmodosCutter/status/1948399414600462369

Link to databases:

Link to database of soldiers documenting their war crimes::

Link to volunteer doctor:

Link to volunteer doctor Two weeks in Gaza’s ruined hospitals

Link to volunteer doctor (65 Doctors, Nurses, and Paramedics: What We Saw in Gaza)

Link to soldier testimonies (Breaking the silence):

Link to soldier comments:

Link to soldier comments:

Link to AI mass killing:

Link to “kill zones:

Link to kill zone:
https://archive.ph/osrcI

Link to Hind Rajab murder:

Link to drone killings:

Link to drones:

Link to Amnesty international report:

Link to oxfam:
https://voicesfromgaza.oxfam.org/

Link to hrw report:

Link to West bank settlers violence
‘God gave us Israel, all of it’ | Along the Green Line: episode 1

Israel ‘must win every war’ | Along the Green Line: episode 2

Gaza: ‘Clean it out then bring in something good’ | Along the Green Line: episode 3

Genocide in Gaza through the eyes of Israeli soldiers

Interview with Israeli dissidents taking action for Palestine

Gaza’s Al Shifa hospital revisited

Investigating war crimes in Gaza

How Israeli soldiers are livestreaming war crimes

October 7

100,000 Dead: What We Know About Gaza's True Death Toll

Link to pro-Israel online:

Manmade famine:

Link Denial & Lies:

Kids Under Fire: An investigation into Israeli soldiers shooting children

Under Fire: Israel's War On Medics

Gaza's Missing

In Gaza, Almost Every IDF Platoon Keeps a Human Shield, a Sub-army of Palestinian Slaves
Innocent Palestinians are regularly forced by soldiers to enter houses in Gaza to make sure there are no terrorists or explosives. So why is the IDF's Military Police Criminal Investigation Division opening only six investigations into the use of human shields?

Israeli Use of Human Shields in Gaza Was Systemic, Soldiers and Former Detainees Tell AP
The Israeli military strictly prohibits involving civilians in military missions as human shields. However, the AP spoke to former Israeli soldiers and detainees who said some IDF commanders weren't just aware of the use, some even gave orders to do so

Haaretz Investigation: Israeli Army Uses Palestinian Civilians to Inspect Potentially Booby-trapped Tunnels in Gaza

Israel is arming gangs to fracture Gaza’s society from the inside
It is part of a strategy to spread chaos, make Gaza ungovernable, and continue starving the population.



Starvation, famine and failure to prevent genocide in Gaza

‘Palestine has become the testing ground for global impunity’

Western Values

This is Gaza: witnessing the Israel Hamas war

Doctors on the frontline: Victoria Rose and Tom Potokar take you inside the war in Gaza

How Israeli soldiers are livestreaming war crimes
 
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What was the rational reason of carefully planed killing of more than 1000 civilians including hundreds young people at the music festival? The only reason was to provoke war they hope to win or at least to cash on. The war they have. But you know what? War never comes alone. It usually travels with two companions: starvation and disease. They should consider themselves lucky not having these two on the major scale. They lost. Hamas must surrender. This is now an agreed demand from all Arab nations.
 

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What was the rational reason of carefully planed killing of more than 1000 civilians including hundreds young people at the music festival? The only reason was to provoke war they hope to win or at least to cash on. The war they have. But you know what? War never comes alone. It usually travels with two companions: starvation and disease. They should consider themselves lucky not having these two on the major scale. They lost. Hamas must surrender. This is now an agreed demand from all Arab nations.


Do you have difficulty restraining your desire for revenge when it means targeting toddlers and pregnant women? I don't. That's a you problem. And not something normal to admit to.

Also, please stop with this bs. It never was about Hamas. Hamas has offered to step aside and leave whoever Palestinians want in power. Guess what? Israel literally removed that part from the draft.






You are continuing to provide cover for and enable Israel's crimes, period.



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Goes back to fucking 2006.
Did you know? I didn't.

I knew since 2017 but since 2006? Our media is as criminal as Netanyahu.











Also, how can you start a war when the war that started (By Israel) in 1967 never fucking ended. Occupation is not "peace time", it's an act of war. So I get that you think Palestinians can be killed en masse every few years and in smaller numbers otherwise because you don't think their lives are worth the same as Israeli lives. That atrocities and barbarity is totally fine when it's Israel (and it is by far far far more committed by Israel over 70+ years) and their victims deserve it but when it is committed on one occasion, it is justified to slaughter, stave, burn and shred a large majority of kids, women and civilian men, hunting down journalists and doctors, and completely destroying an entire society and to do so with glee. Because they should have known their place. In an open air prison, no hope, no options. Israel has committed so much more barbaric crimes and acts of terrorism than one day you fixate on in oct 2023. But you had/have no problem with that.

Newsflash: If Israel had not been enabled to keep things comfortable and lack any incentive or interest to let Palestinians live free LIKE YOU DO, there would be nothing to resist or fight. Basic common sense. It would have been abnormal for not a single person to take that route given their living conditions no matter where in the world or who the occupier was. Some of you boomers are going to have to take responsibility for what's going on both in Gaza and the West Bank because if you hadn't been blindly defending and providing cover as Israel continued to build settlements, which make their intentions clear, we wouldn't be here. You continue to provide the impunity that makes them criminal and you don't see Palestinians as human. I hate to break it to you but most people around the world see humans, and certainly Gen z does.

There is no justification for this. NONE. Not moral but also not legal. You're defending multiple different war crimes, multiple different crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing and quite probably genocide. You ok?
 
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What was the rational reason of carefully planed killing of more than 1000 civilians including hundreds young people at the music festival?
Exactly. No matter how you want to twist it and say "oh occupation this, occupation that". Whats the excuse to go after civilians and rape/torture them? Something you guys use as a big argument against the IDF... .

It was a war lauched knowing they had no chance winning. Think about it. They rather sacrifice 60 000+ (half being their terrorists "combatants" but still 30 000 civilians including women in children) all for what? Popular opinion?

Before Oct 7 im not saying Gaza and Judea & Samaria were "heaven on earth" but it was "decent". Yes there is rotten apples among Israelis OF COURSE. Im not saying some peoples were not on the bad end of it.

But overall it was "decent". Hamas openned the gates of hell and closed any chances of Israel good will.

If Palestinians behave nicely for 10/20 years, pretty sure Israel would be nicer to them recogninizing they are deradicalizing. They did the opposit sadly...FAFO...
 
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It was a war launched knowing they had no chance winning.
Actually, they planned to win the war. They have a lot of hubris thinking that the tunnels will protect their fighters and Gaza would be a death trap for the IDF that can not withstand high losses. They bragged about it continuously together with Iranians which planned the whole thing. They thought that Hezbollah would open the second front. They believed that large civilian casualties and world-wide protests they carefully planned would force Israel to pull out of Gaza. They underestimated Israeli resolve. They lost and must surrender unconditionally to stop suffering of their own people. Only after this the discussion may start about the future. Not the other way around. Recognizing Palestinian state by France at this stage is a joke.
 
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Exactly. No matter how you want to twist it and say "oh occupation this, occupation that". Whats the excuse to go after civilians and rape/torture them? Something you guys use as a big argument against the IDF... .

It was a war lauched knowing they had no chance winning. Think about it. They rather sacrifice 60 000+ (half being their terrorists "combatants" but still 30 000 civilians including women in children) all for what? Popular opinion?

Before Oct 7 im not saying Gaza and Judea & Samaria were "heaven on earth" but it was "decent". Yes there is rotten apples against Israelis OF COURSE. Im not saying some peoples were not on the bad end of it.

But overall it wad "decent". Hamas openned the gates of hell and closed any chances of Israel good will.

If Palestinians behave nicely for 10/20 years, pretty sure Israel would be nicer to them recogninizing they are deradicalizing. They did the opposit sadly...FAFO...


Well, I don't know what was Israel's excuse for over 7 decades? What's the excuse now?

Again, same question for you. How do you make any argument for the targeting of children, women and civilians as a normal response to Hamas crimes?

Dude, Judea and Samaria is not a place that exists!
Also reminder. You're defending litteral crimes right now. Not sure how you think that's a win. You're also clearly aligning with racist terrorist ideology so I don't think your positioned to say anything.





Rotten apples... Every sentence adds more mindblowing ignorance.


Lots more than a few rotten apples.


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Actually, they planned to win the war. They have a lot of hubris thinking that the tunnels will protect their fighters and Gaza would be a death trap for the IDF that can not withstand high losses. They bragged about it continuously together with Iranians which planned the whole thing. They thought that Hezbollah would open the second front. They believed that large civilian casualties and world-wide protests they carefully planned would force Israel to pull out of Gaza. They underestimated Israeli resolve. They lost and must surrender unconditionally to stop suffering of their own people. Only after this the discussion may start about the future. Not the other way around. Recognizing Palestinian state by France at this stage is a joke.


They actually have a legal right to attack military.


Your reasoning is racist, supremacist and frankly dumb. This delusional fiction that Israeli are the victims and engaging in unjustifiable criminal revenge is "resolve"... (facepalm)

It can be summarized as "Israeli Jews are superior, they can do whatever they want, steal whatever they want forever, abuse Palestinians and no law applies to Israel. But any violence against Israelis justifies the mass murder of civilians, mostly kids. The responsibility is on the oppressed, not the oppressor." (insert clown emoji)



That's morally bankrupt. At least it's honest. It's not the values most people respect so at least being honest like you both are, making it very transparent how racist you are is great. Keep going. Tell us more. Tell us why starving kids is moral. Tell us.
 

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Well, I don't know what was Israel's excuse for over 7 decades? What's the excuse now?

Again, same question for you. How do you make any argument for the targeting of children, women and civilians as a normal response to Hamas crimes?

Dude, Judea and Samaria is not a place that exists!
Also reminder. You're defending litteral crimes right now. Not sure how you think that's a win. You're also clearly aligning with racist terrorist ideology so I don't think your positioned to say anything.
Israel did all it could to avoid civilians. Hamas does all it can can to cause their death embleding themselves among them.

There is 1 Jewish country on Earth... More Muslim/Arabs countries than i have fingers to count. Jews were expelled from muslim countries hardcore. So maybe them having that single tiny land wich is their ancestral land do not bother me.

Judea and Samaria is the ancestral name of this land whatever you like it or not...dude :)

Im aligning with Jews as an atheist because Jews never did anything against my country or our allies unlike Islamists. You want to defend the same type of terrorists as ISIS and tell me my moral is wrong? Lol

You probably one of these leftist activist on the "perpetual cause". You always need a cause no matter how valid it may be.

Sorry Mam but im not Jewish either by religion or race. I have no link to them. But i do recognize how they were threaten during the 1900s and what happened to them was disgusting.

That said the Islamist may hate the Jews more but they hate us almost as much. Israel is our front line against them. And yes im happy Hezbollah, Iran, etc were shattered. The less power these terrorists has the less risks for us.
They actually have a legal right to attack military.

They may have had a claim if they declared war. What they did was attack mostly civilians in their homes, at a music festival and a few military bases were women were sleeping in their pyjamas.

They killed a lot of them, abducted the rest, then when they freed them in the "ceasefire" they dressed them in military clothing to make them appear like "soldier". They were 18/19 conscriot in pyajamas !! Lots of them peace activists. Go watch Namaa Levy video. And while you are at it go watch Shani Louk's video. Hear them loudly yelling "allahu akbar" while they spit on her and parade her like some trophy.

Then dare question my humanity again...

Ouf i will admit right now i need to keep calm and breath. You on Merb Mike no Twitter. Stay calm...
 

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Throughout the last 20 months, even as the most horrific scenes were streamed on our screens all day every day, there have been some very vocal supporters of this abomination.
Many have used deflection by repeatedly trying to "BUT Hamas.."* as if their brain is incapable of telling the difference with a child, or to somehow try to convince that it's a valid justification of what's going on right now, or to shift the discussion away (seems to be the main strategy here). As a rule, they've blamed Hamas, clearing Israel even if they're the ones bombing. They've repeated the same exact talking points they've all been parroting for decades at this point. They can’t defend racism and sound rational, so it’s easier to distract with irrelevant fictitious narrative they’ve never actually bothered to fact check in any serious way.

But what they don’t understand when met with anger, is that not only are other people not drinking their koolaid, but the very talking points they repeat ad nauseam, (or, especially when they go off script, improvise and share what they truly think) is often a big flashing neon sign that completely exposes the huge amount of racism (bigotry, whatever) that their worldview as it concerns Israel is built upon. They don’t think of what they're saying as offensive and bigoted but rather as totally rational and reasonable, which is why it never occurs to them that they give this away. But they don't have to say something explicitly racist, although they often do, but the giveaway is the very peculiar way everything they say is selectively framed and also the obvious inability to zoom out and explore any other perspective that are all around them. It's obvious to everyone but themselves just how completely they dehumanize even Palestinian children.

Sometimes they'll argue with really ridiculous "sources" (ahem) making claims they expect others to just accept as fact because they do, but most of the time they don't even respond to the points that have been brought up at all. They've made you waste time and that was the goal. They figure there isn't always someone willing to take the time to call them out, so a fair number of those comments will not be challenged. They don't have to think, just repeat the same talking points and some of them will look legit. It's pretty stupid because they're literally the only ones who believe what they're saying (if they believe it) at this point. It takes effort to still pretend to not be seeing what we all see.

But frankly, we have long passed the time of red lines. Aside from the mad rush to jump sides at the last hour when it becomes certain they aren’t on the side that will be well regarded from then on, those who remain on that side now do not have red lines and are increasingly willing to expose their bigotry (or no longer able to hide it). I have to remind myself there is no point in engaging in good faith with someone with such hateful beliefs, they have no red line and are now defending, justifying the wholesale slaughter of over 20k children and their active starvation over almost 2 years. I’m sorry, when you get to to this low point, you’ve lost the plot and I’m not going to dignify the appalling sewage you apparently feel comfortable saying out loud with any more answers. You’re no better than what you hate, no less barbaric, or anything you want to project. You don’t need me to expose anything, you’re doing a great job of doing it yourself.




* re "BUT Hamas..." ---- Still amazes me that this was presumably written by an adult. smh. I mean, that loser is missing a significant amount of marbles. lol Dude's not well in the head. That's not normal behaviour. But I've seen so many deranged people exactly like that posting on social media, it's a phenomenon I hope someone studies. I was generous only calling him a weirdo. Unhinged. Anyway.



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Sooooo. Anywayyyy. Note to self: Don't engage with people defending and supporting genocide and a catalogue of barbaric crimes against civilians. I'm not entertaining anyone who thinks there's any kind of justification. A discussion isn't what you need. A heart or a therapist might help. Really gross. Even more fucked up for people who are parents (although most of us don't need to, we can imagine just fine). This disturbs me almost as much as the rest but whatever..


I'll take comfort in the fact that there are more of us who still have our humanity:




More than half of Canadians support maintaining a ban on weapons sales to Israel, with nearly half backing its expansion to include a full two-way weapons embargo , according to a recent poll.
The Mainstreet Research survey, commissioned by the National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM), found that 55% of respondents support Canada's prohibition of weapons exports to Israel due to the situation in the Gaza Strip.
Additionally, 49% believe Canada should go further by restricting the sale of weapons parts, military services and training to Israel.
The poll revealed strong public support for the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant.
More than 56% said Canada should uphold the ICC's decision , which could theoretically lead to Netanyahu’s arrest if he enters the country.
The survey was conducted on a sample of 1,090 Canadians between March 22 and March 23, with a margin of error of +/- 3% at a 95% confidence level.




In a survey conducted between June 6 and June 8 2025, the polling firm Leger asked Canadians and Americans a series of questions about the conflict in the Gaza Strip.
Leger asked respondents whether they “agree or disagree that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip” based on how they “define what constitutes a genocide.”
The UN declared genocide a crime under international law in 1946.
The UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide defines it as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group. That can include killing members of the group, causing them serious injury, deliberately inflicting conditions that can be dangerous to their lives, imposing measures to prevent births within the group, or forcibly transferring children from the group to another group.
Just less than half of the Canadian respondents, 49 per cent, said they agree that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip, including 23 per cent who said they strongly agree and 26 per cent who said they somewhat agree .
Another 21 per cent said they disagree with the claim that Israel is committing genocide — 10 per cent said they somewhat disagree and 11 per cent said they strongly disagree. The remaining 30 per cent said they didn’t know or refused to answer.




















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What was the rational reason of carefully planed killing of more than 1000 civilians including hundreds young people at the music festival? The only reason was to provoke war they hope to win or at least to cash on. The war they have. But you know what? War never comes alone. It usually travels with two companions: starvation and disease. They should consider themselves lucky not having these two on the major scale. They lost. Hamas must surrender. This is now an agreed demand from all Arab nations.
Again what you're doing is blaming resistance to an illegal occupation. Granted part of the mission was to take hostages, that in itself is a crime. Were people killed in the process? I wasn't there but my guess is yes.

Have you also heard of the Hannibal directive. Israel is willing to kill its own civilians to avoid their kidnapping. This is known. Hamas went through the wall with automatic rifles, maybe a few RPGs but Israel shows you rows of cars burnt to a crisp, shelled houses. Grow up. It's time to stop taking action movies so seriously.

When you talk about arab nations you mean their coward puppet governors, which as you might know are allies of the US a way or another. Most muslims whether Sunni or Shia do not agree with the killing of innocent, even less if we talk about women and children. This is part of values shared between Christians, Muslims and Jews... Just in case.

So no. Again, October 7 is not unprovoked.
Then, again, a thousand killed does not justify the killing of 100000+
 
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Israel did all it could to avoid civilians. Hamas does all it can can to cause their death embleding themselves among them.

There is 1 Jewish country on Earth... More Muslim/Arabs countries than i have fingers to count. Jews were expelled from muslim countries hardcore. So maybe them having that single tiny land wich is their ancestral land do not bother me.

Judea and Samaria is the ancestral name of this land whatever you like it or not...dude :)

Im aligning with Jews as an atheist because Jews never did anything against my country or our allies unlike Islamists. You want to defend the same type of terrorists as ISIS and tell me my moral is wrong? Lol

You probably one of these leftist activist on the "perpetual cause". You always need a cause no matter how valid it may be.

Sorry Mam but im not Jewish either by religion or race. I have no link to them. But i do recognize how they were threaten during the 1900s and what happened to them was disgusting.

That said the Islamist may hate the Jews more but they hate us almost as much. Israel is our front line against them. And yes im happy Hezbollah, Iran, etc were shattered. The less power these terrorists has the less risks for us.


They may have had a claim if they declared war. What they did was attack mostly civilians in their homes, at a music festival and a few military bases were women were sleeping in their pyjamas.

They killed a lot of them, abducted the rest, then when they freed them in the "ceasefire" they dressed them in military clothing to make them appear like "soldier". They were 18/19 conscriot in pyajamas !! Lots of them peace activists. Go watch Namaa Levy video. And while you are at it go watch Shani Louk's video. Hear them loudly yelling "allahu akbar" while they spit on her and parade her like some trophy.

Then dare question my humanity again...

Ouf i will admit right now i need to keep calm and breath. You on Merb Mike no Twitter. Stay calm...
There's only countless of examples of Israel purposefully maiming civilians, killing civilians, illegal detention and imprisonment, children imprisonment, blocking aid, bringing support to armed illegal settlers, carpet bombing, using white phosphorus in urban environment, etc... Israel is the definition of a terrorist state. This is vastly documented and irrefutable at this point.

There's one jewish country because in 1948 they pillaged and raped, stealing land and claiming a state. Judea and Samaria existed but do not equate Israel. Look at ancient maps. Even look at modern maps that show what Israel truly is as an unlawful occupation. I come from South America and no, that doesn't give me the right to claim territory in Spain or wherever my ancestors are from. It certainly does not apply if you're ancestors where there 2000 years ago... Sorry.

Not only did they make a country, they made a country where the only people who have equal rights are jews (most don't have any native links to the land, this is also documented), yet if you're a tenth, twentieth generation Palestinian you have bs rights. If you were expelled or your family was expelled from their house 10 years ago you cannot return to reclaim your property.

It amazes me how you talk about that yet you fail to mention jews in countries like Morocco or even Iran where there's no news of anything close to what Israelis do. This is not a Jewish issue. Israel is a disgrace to any of the levant originary religions. Israel is even a disgrace to humanity and atheists.

Another fun fact is Israel put Hamas forward to take power because they didn't like the thought of having to deal with a more neutral or peaceful entity.

The only people to really want to eliminate any other are racist fascists such as I'm sure exist still Today in Israel and the US. Only now, they kill millions in the middle east and we're supposed to say thank you?
 
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