Has it happened to you...?

[jalimon]

One thing to consider, and that perhaps might ellude our wasp English canadian friends, is that franco-québécois people, especially those that are working class or lower middle-class, are still very influenced by catholic morality. They will never admit to this openly, but it still colonizes their unconscious. Most quebec girls (especially the trashy kind) feel that sex is part of the pleasure of life, but nice sex with a manly boyfriend like Eric Lapointe or Roy Dupuis... So I feel jalimon is right when he claims that many québécoise girls would never become an sp all the while enjoying sex. Of course, many have gotten over their catholic hang ups and have decided to monetize their openness towards sexuality. Traditionally, since most of us have only recently been able to indulge in the typical north-american consumption-type culture, we have a love and openness towards sex which you just don't find with typical English-canadians, who are used to investing their libido in a variety of other material pleasures. Moral: take advantage while it lasts. The more french speaking québécoise girls get rich, the more they will become as frigid as those ontario girls whom you have to date for 2 years before you can fuck.

I missed this great reply. You are correct it is probably a discovery for many here to realize that if the Quebecoise escort are generaly that good an so popular it's because there is a vast pool of girls in this province completely open about sex for pleasure. It's been like this for many many year. In my early 20's I spent 4 summer working in hotels out west, living in dorms, and I can assure you the Quebecoise there were by far the most popular girls of all the girls, who were coming for all canadian provinces. At 20 year old a girl from alberta was almost considered a looser if she was not married! Imagine how horrified that same girl would be when she realized that I was actually sleeping in the same bed with 2 girls from Quebec city because one of my dorm roomate was fucking snoring so much. The worst thinking about those days makes me think how stupid I was... I could have bang so much more girls than I actually did

Cheers,

 

[cobra1]

Geez, good thing it's x-max time,
is the the new christmas
spirit i'm not aware of. Lol

 

[jalimon]

Christmas time can actually be really hard when you are not with the ones you should be with.

Cheers,

 

[hungry101]

Ho Ho Ho....Merrrrry Christmas!!!!

Great discussion guys. You both made some great points. Good verbal sparring too!
Now it is time to call a truce and drink a toast to one another and agree to disagree.

I think the original thread was about how great the service is in Montreal and that sometimes the women blur the lines a bit and make the non-sp women in our lives (wives, real girl friends, affairs) look a bit lame in comparison. I say thank God for this and thank you to the SPs of Montreal and all their support staff because this is a fact!

 

[jalimon]

Ho Ho Ho....Merrrrry Christmas!!!!

Great discussion guys. You both made some great points. Good verbal sparring too!
Now it is time to call a truce and drink a toast to one another and agree to disagree.

I think the original thread was about how great the service is in Montreal and that sometimes the women blur the lines a bit and make the non-sp women in our lives (wives, real girl friends, affairs) look a bit lame in comparison. I say thank God for this and thank you to the SPs of Montreal and all their support staff because this is a fact!

Hungry the original post was about "you get to a formal relationship with a girl, but you can't get to that same level as that with the SP? Do you think that that may affect your relationship in certain way?"

But it's ok we understand you may have overdid the holiday Rhum Punch Thinking about it, I much prefer your version of the original thread

Cheers and Happy Holidays!

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Seeing escorts is not cheating? Hoping your girlfriend knows about it and if you come home early and she is deep throating someone all is good with you.
Seeing escorts is not cheating.... Wow.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I think that if you ask 1,000 ladies if her partner has sex with an escort would it be cheating ( no asking escorts ) 990 would say yes. If you had an open relationship ( and there are oh so few ) I would see your view as valid. Many males who do not see escorts think that seeing escorts is wrong, think what the average female would think of " seeing escorts is not cheating ".
Personally I would not give a partner a second chance if she cheated on me, old fashioned or whatever you want to call it.
And why would it be unwise to to tell your partner if it is ok?

 

[ssj3]

I agree with STN..many SPs that I've seen have asked me if I was married or had a gf. I always tell them if I had a SO I wouldn't be doing this. And most of them have responded with "well at least there are some good guys left in the world." This is not to toot my own horn or anything, but I just can't ever see myself cheating on a gf or wife. And I would consider seeing an SP while in a committed relationship as cheating.

 

[cobra1]

Same here. Been asked that question
often, gave the same answer you did
got the same comment back

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Being in a relationship is not only about sex, it is about having common interests and goals. The sex spark dies and what keeps a relationship together is common interests, common goals and respect for each other. If you marry a girl because she is hot and fucks the shit out of you the relationship is doomed. I am also one who believes that a young person should not see escorts, it will raise the sex bar up too high, expectationa for looks and service would excede the realistic possibilities. I saw my first escort about 6 months after my divorce which was in my 50's.

 

[chowzilla]

I am also one who believes that a young person should not see escorts, it will raise the sex bar up too high, expectationa for looks and service would excede the realistic possibilities. I saw my first escort about 6 months after my divorce which was in my 50's.

i agree but to a certain degree because I'm on the young spectrum of this hobby
It does set my standards high, but in a way it has helped with my confidence and since ive been dating better looking girls, whom i wouldnt normally see myself being able to do. I do not believe i can pick up the hottest girl in the club but I can pick a girl.
Although I know its wrong to think this way but I do recognize when a girl is out of my league

In terms of bedroom expectations, unless you're a prude or a virgin, i think most girls are willing to try new things so I dont think ive struggled with that.

 

[hungry101]

You know what is important to me? Losing your virginity. Ohhhh this is such a special moment in a man's life. Ohhhhhhhh it is so special and such a joyful tearful moment. Ohhh this should be with someone special...OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH.

BULLHOCKEY!!!!!!

I feel the same way about this crowd that is so worried about cheating. Ohhhhh, someone is cheating. Ohhhhhhh, this is not right. You sound like a bunch of little bitches.

Jesus Christ - Patron set me up with one of the best escorts I have ever seen. I saw her on a Tuesday. It was an outstanding experience. I saw her again on a Thursday and I was already bored. How can you fuck one person, year after year, and see no one else. Yuk!!!

Listen to Patron. He is a wise man. If you get married make sure that you are paying your own bills. The biggest mistake you can make is to turn all the financials over to your wife. Do not make her the CFO of your family. Many men will turn these responsibilities over to their wife. I know of many men that are on an allowance like a 12 year old. They bring home 60-100% of the money and they could never walk around with enough money to treat themselves to an escort once in awhile. Meanwhile the family CFO has socked away thousands of dollars that you earned and if/when the big "D" occurs you are screwed.

I'm sorry, as a young man my dick got wet many times. As an adult, I can handle getting what we would refer to in the old neighborhood as "some strange" and not become fucked up in the head as a result. I have observed men who went through life with one girlfriend/wife and as soon as they get a strange piece of ass they think they have to move in with that person and fuck up everything...their kids, their bank account, everything. One of my married best best buddies was hanging out at the local bars meeting woman and bragging about it. He was going out to lunch with them, flirting, and getting to know some of the ladies better. He had one lined up for sex and before the sex ever started she was putting conditions on it. She was going to claim him. He showed me some pictures of her. I said to my friend, "Joe, that's an old broad. WTF do you want with some old broad? You've got one of those at home except she [your wife] is better looking than that woman you are about to sacrifice everything for." He is worth a few million dollars and he has 4 kids. I talked him down off the ledge. I grabbed his computer and I went to the MERB website. I showed him the Euphoria web site and we looked at Gabrielle Garnier's web site. I showed him Eva's web site and MTLGFE's and XOs and Kelly of Montreal, etc. He said "Yes, but Hungry those photos are shopped." I had to say fuck no they are not. Now why would you want to risk your fortune, hurt your family, and lose your wife just because you are experiencing the 20 year itch? Come to Montreal with me.

He has thanked me several times for talking him down off the ledge.

I understand what it is like to be hooked on a woman. That is really sweet. Hell, back in Brazil, swing clubs are sprouting up everywhere. Some men are so hung up on their wives that they get a thrill out of watching them fuck other men at the swing club.

I have to laugh about guys like HM saying that he would never cheat on a GF. Yeah right. If I had 10 Million dollars I would give half to charity. Other MERBITEs who have lost a life partner can only remember the good times. I have known men who's wives have left them and they couldn't even have sex with another woman. They wanted their ex's back.

Take away all the married men and all the men with girl friends and Montreal SPs would probably lose about 80% of their revenue.

 

[Passionné]

Young people should not see escorts because they should give themselves a chance to have something much better than sex with random women in random places and the extremely limited orgasm high experiences that have no chance of leading to anything. Then once falling into this life becoming addicted to it because of it's ease and avoidance of everything more complicated and satisfying. If you like it, fine. But take a shot there's something a lot more real for you in life before running into the trap of being jaded or carried away permanently.

 

[jalimon]

Patron you and Hungry actually made me change my mind. I was convince that younger guy should not see escort (except to get better sex skills, which I wish I had done!)

But really you guys are correct. Why not just be even happier in life and throw an escort session once in a while

Cheers,

p.s. As a frenchman I whish every one here could write like you Patron, or Hungry, or EB. Many here write an english that is quite difficult to get the true meaning of what they are trying to say. Like one of my french writting teacher said all the time, keep it simple... short sentence, short sentence

 

[EagerBeaver]

Just to be clear I don't think I ever said a younger guy 35 or under should NEVER see escorts, he just shouldn't do so regularly like some of us do. And become part of the MERB culture. The under 35 hobbyist should pick his spots and focus most sex-seeking activities in the civilian sectors. I have gotten PMs from some younger members on MERB and I know one that is following this thread and doing just that.

Development of proper social skills with women is paramount and supersedes any interest in short term sexual gratification.

As a man gets to be around 40 years old, he will increase his escort seeking activities as his civilian activities will be slowing down. It will become difficult for him to have sex with women in their 20s and he will need to increasingly resort to money to pursue women in their 20s. The balance between civilian and pro activities changes naturally through the aging process and the income generating process as most of us accumulate greater income with experience and advancement in our chosen professions.

I just don't like seeing guys who are promising young men with not fully developed social skills fucking around and retarding their own social development. I learned and developed my social skills - they were a lot worse than these guys at the same age. And I want to see them develop in a proper way because you do need to make mistakes and take some lumps to be a better man at the end.

 

[Numerati]

So has it happened to you that once you get to some great SP's or that particular SP, then you get to a formal relationship with a girl, but you can't get to that same level as that with the SP? Do you think that that may affect your relationship in certain way?

Of course. Not just the whole GFE spiel but the whole dynamics in general. I can say even my best civie girl relationships are 50% to 60% in quality of my best SP encounters. The ways the SP dresses and the way she carries herself surpasses a girl I meet in "regular" circumstances. Not to also forget that SP's shaved kitty. It is not something I have to inquire and request. Well I am seeing a girl who is ought to be in her best behaving self. I mean if I probably met the SP and dated her in normal ways of meeting I may run into the same crap I may encounter with a non-SP girl.

It is a good thing really. So when I do meet a civie girl that interests me I don't go all crazy about it endangering the encounter. Knowing in the back of my mind she can never measure up to that awesome SP the civie girl has to always have to work for it to prove herself. The civie girl will always wonder if she is good enough. Her interest level will always be higher than yours truly. That is where you will have the upper hand and that is a great place to be in in an actual relationship.