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Look behind you.
For myself I am thankful for escorts. It has changed the way I look at younger ladies ( over 18 ) though, before just a glance and a smile, now I envision a 69. In Mexico for a few more days and have had conversations with ladies close to my age but have not tried to go the step further, keep on looking at the 20 somethings running around here and thinking I will be back in Monteal soon.
HM has the right idea, find a gril who has your interests and not interested in your money, you will have a far better life. Anyone can have a hot girl around their arm if they keep throwing money around but then you are only fooling yourself.
For myself I am escort doomed ( not a bad thing actually ) since I am not in one place for any long period of time plus much older in life. Must also add difficult to live with as I give my honest opinion.
 

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Why would you want to be only in the bullpen

Because if the choice is being in the bullpen or not being at the ballpark or in the game, you choose the bullpen. We can't all be #1 starters. Guys who have trouble accepting this are usually needy, possessive, egotistical or some combination of the 3. I am way past all that shit at this point. It happens that you develop feelings for someone and know a marriage is not going to happen and it is perfectly okay to accept it and not let pride fuck with your head. I must once again call upon Mr. Rhames for true spoken words of wisdom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruhFmBrl4GM

Watch that film a few times and you will learn some true wisdom about the world. Lost the jock mentality, as it tends to make morons of men.
 

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I am not angry, H.M., I am just a realist.

The escort market would not exist if life and love and attraction really works throughout a lifetime the way you have suddenly expressed the hope that it does.

I just don't really view it as cheating, that's all.

Call me skeptical, but you have done some great reviews of some really hot girls. I am a little doubtful that if you married a plain Jane that you would be happy the rest of your life, particularly as you (and she) get older, with never seeing a hot, young escort. And I am not sure that would make sense. Life is to be enjoyed.

Anger was just a joke reference to Star Wars, it was not meant to be litteral lol.

I never said love have to be for a lifetime. I mean sometimes you can have fun with a partner, get together and then realize at some point after a few years that you are not in love anymore, and express the will to part ways. Sometimes peoples remain friends, other times not. But in any case i just feel its more honest and better that if you feel like you lack anything, be in sexually or affectionaly to just mention it to your partner. You can even bring the option of seeing other peoples on both side, see what she think about it. Im just saying its better to say what you feel than cheat. And yes its cheating, be it an escort or your secretery at work or a plain stranger met in a bar.

And as i said many time, who talked of marrying lol. Yes i did see many hot ladies, actually even with my little ammount of hobbying a year i can say i have seen most of my "bucket list" fantasies. I only have really just a few things left to do if the time is right. I want to eventually see a black and an asian lady. Also i would love to meet an american pornstar but this one may be hard to do lol. But beside that i have been with brunettes, blondes, even a few red head, big natural breast, small naturals, big fakes etc. Not saying i don't enjoy doing it anymore cause if it was the case i wouldn't do it lol. But what im trying to say is at this point in my life i live most of the fantasies i can afford, but what is truly lacking for me is having a love one. Obviously you have to be attracted physically but sometimes love can change that attraction. Its not just about physical. And as i stated many times, im not selling my soul for life when i say i want a relationship. It could be 1 year, 2 year, 5 whatever, and if at some point the magic is not there and i feel like seeing escorts again, i can always talk to her. I would do that, i would TALK and potentially break up if i have to, but certainly not lie and cheat on her. Thats how i am.

Friz88, i feel you man ;)
 

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Thats why im saying having a girlfriend thatn share my love for video games, metal music, movies and other activities i like, that would be GREAT. And i couldn't betray this person.

So this is what I recommend:

1. Next big metal tour, whether it's Metallica or Judas Priest or Iron Maiden or Slayer or Megadeath, find out when tickets will go on sale at the Bell Center.
2. Show up on that date after a long line to the ticket office has developed.
3. Scan the line visually and pick out the best looking girl.
4. Approach her and tell her that it has been a lifelong dream to see that band, and you had hoped to be the first one in line, but your car broke down because you forgot to put gas line antifreeze in your gas tank and you had to take a bus from Gatineau to get to Montreal and are late to be in the front of the line.
5. Give her cash and ask her if she will buy a ticket for you near her seats.
6. I lay 3-2 odds that she buys the ticket, as she feels sorry for your terrible misfortune and wants you to realize your lifelong dream.
7. The rest is up to you but good chance you end up with a girlfriend.
 

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So this is what I recommend:

1. Next big metal tour, whether it's Metallica or Judas Priest or Iron Maiden or Slayer or Megadeath, find out when tickets will go on sale at the Bell Center.
2. Show up on that date after a long line to the ticket office has developed.
3. Scan the line visually and pick out the best looking girl.
4. Approach her and tell her that it has been a lifelong dream to see that band, and you had hoped to be the first one in line, but your car broke down because you forgot to put gas line antifreeze in your gas tank and you had to take a bus from Gatineau to get to Montreal and are late to be in the front of the line.
5. Give her cash and ask her if she will buy a ticket for you near her seats.
6. I lay 3-2 odds that she buys the ticket, as she feels sorry for your terrible misfortune and wants you to realize your lifelong dream.
7. The rest is up to you but good chance you end up with a girlfriend.

I like your style....
 

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So this is what I recommend:

1. Next big metal tour, whether it's Metallica or Judas Priest or Iron Maiden or Slayer or Megadeath, find out when tickets will go on sale at the Bell Center.
2. Show up on that date after a long line to the ticket office has developed.
3. Scan the line visually and pick out the best looking girl.
4. Approach her and tell her that it has been a lifelong dream to see that band, and you had hoped to be the first one in line, but your car broke down because you forgot to put gas line antifreeze in your gas tank and you had to take a bus from Gatineau to get to Montreal and are late to be in the front of the line.
5. Give her cash and ask her if she will buy a ticket for you near her seats.
6. I lay 3-2 odds that she buys the ticket, as she feels sorry for your terrible misfortune and wants you to realize your lifelong dream.
7. The rest is up to you but good chance you end up with a girlfriend.

Sure it works. I have found my wife this way when I was 27 and she was a couple years younger. It even might work now but for some reason ladies of my age do not attract me anymore :)
 

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One thing I have actually done is as follows:

I was at an event. There were Port-a-johns outside. I saw a cute girl go into a Port-A-John. I ran up to it and I shook it and at the same time yelled "Hey get the fuck out of here." The girl came out and I asked if she was OK and I told her essentially that I ran off some dude. She swooned to me. We ended up making out like lovers but she would not go all the way unless we were dating. She introduced me to all her friends etc. I might add that this worked so well because we were all drunk. Did I mention that we were all drinking free beer out of kegs? I was in my early 30's too. So just don't try this anywhere...but the point is I had a plan and a system. I demonstrated my value to her and it worked.

Another time I was on the beaches of Rio and I started a harmless conversation with another girl next to me. She was putting on sun screen and she was on her belly. We were both in our 30's/40's....I said you missed a spot and I rubbed sunscreen on her back. I did it quick. She stopped talking to me. I think she thought I was a creep. In my mid-20's I tried that one time and I ended up with a girl friend and my friends couldn't believe it. Two lessons here: 1st - if you aint getting rejected you aint trying. So don't fear rejection. 2nd - Some tactics are age specific and probably the success is related to everyone's blood alcohol. The sunscreen idea worked once and scared a lady in Rio...and may have gotten me arrested in the United States. But no problemo - I went to the Termas later and brought home a GDP girl for overnight sex for free. I was feeling it!!! I prefer now to have the bar tender walk over to the girl and say The gentlemen at the end of the bar would like to buy you an automobile and I wave and the girl laughs.

But that dating ship has sailed. Now, I prefer escorts. That is what I like. Sometimes some of them are fucked up in the head enough to pretend like they really are interested in me. I play along. In Montreal they have perfected the great service while not fucking with your head too much.

I like EB's idea but I might add to tell the girl to buy a ticket for herself and then you are sitting by each other.
 

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Two lessons here: 1st - if you aint getting rejected you aint trying. So don't fear rejection.

So true. Such a stopper. I had to battle that many times, but most of the times I overcame fear of rejection. That is why I have been a fool and asshole a few times, ok well, much more than a few times actually... But overcoming fear of rejection lead me to much more good stuff :)

Funny because for me too dating and flirting is completely done. I am totally on the escort scene and will remain. But strangely, I have been flirted on quite a few times in recent month. It's like now that I do not care at all about it, it gives a motive to woman to try to seduce me?

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I like EB's idea but I might add to tell the girl to buy a ticket for herself and then you are sitting by each other.

I thought I had said that in my post, but just in case it was not clear, that is what I meant to say. I believe Mike can hook up that way, and I also agree that if he isn't getting rejected, he is not trying. The way to look at it is through the prism of Vegas-style odds: for every 10 no's there will be a yes, in some cases it may even be like 5-1 or even 3-1 if you can really refine your shtick and keep it light and humorous. My batting average on Seeking Arrangement is more like 1 in 15, but once I get them out on dates I have a much higher ratio of repeats - in fact I have not yet had any girl I went on one date with tell me no to a second. I did lose interest in a few. The 1 in 15 is just getting a response and commitment. It's hard, when you are targeting much younger women. Some are open minded, but a lot are not, and they envision a world where there are good looking 25 year old millionaires, waiting to shower them with gifts and attention, and they are growing on trees. Woman do fantasize as well.
 

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Glad to read someone saying this. I always made that argument in threads in which I was arguing that it is fine for young guys to see escorts, and I would always get blasted by others who would say that seeing escorts causes young guys to not work as hard at finding girls their own age for relationships.

Patron, you say this not having met some of the young guys who are posting here, as I have. I can think of two in particular who, because of their age and what they are really looking for, they should not be seeing escorts at this time of their lives. These are young early 30s guys who really want girlfriends, they want a soulmate. Seeing escorts is damaging them. I actually like the two guys a lot, and I care about them as persons- I would like to see them become solid grown men with fully developed social skills. In my judgment and opinion they should remove themselves from the game. One of them, from what he told me, did remove himself, but then he found a girlfriend and now he is hobbying part time. The other one, I think he should take a sabbatical for a few years and see where it goes. He can always come back when he gets older.

I am a little different than jalimon, as I am not totally out of the dating game. Back in the summer, I started seeing a very young lady on Seeking Arrangement. The first date I had with her, I paid her, and I am convinced the date would not have happened had I not made the offer. On our second date I offered her money and she refused. Much to my surprise, she rejected the cash, handed it back to me, and told me she has enjoyed herself and wanted to see where it went. i did continue to pay for her meals and buy her things like chocolates and typical gifts you buy young women. We dated until the end of the summer and then she left to go to her State of origin, telling me she had family issues and that she would return and when she did, she would be in touch. I did not think I would hear from her again but two months later she is back and texting me and we resume what so far is just a regular dating relationship with zero expectations on both sides. And all the while I have continued seeing escorts. I have not had sex with this particular SA girl- lots of kissing and we have discussed sex, but it has not happened yet and I am not pushing for it to happen. This girl has been a bit of a surprise, but I do not have any expectations of anything long term because she is very beautiful and very young and I think it's likely only a matter of time before she meets a guy her own age and I am headed to the bullpen. It's already happened to me once before. However, dating this girl keeps my social skills razor sharp and my shtick razor sharp. Plus, I really like her and we have a lot in common. But at the end of the day I look in the mirror and at our age difference and know we can't be anything more than what we are now, but that it's also OKAY and we are both okay with that, which is why we have worked out. Nobody is pushing to move things along, because we both know there is nothing to move along to beyond where we are, except possibly sex, which we have in fact discussed like two intelligent adults.

Getting back to the subject you brought up of young guys, 35 and under, seeing escorts. The majority, I would say, should not be doing it, and I say that having met some of these young men. But I never told them "hey! you need to get out of the game!!!" They are adults. They have to figure things out for themselves. That is the way the world works. But based on my life experience, having met them etc. I think they should be out of the game for another 10 years or so. If a guy is still single at 40 he likely will be for the rest of his life and maybe by design, and there is nothing wrong with that path, but once it is chosen you then become like me- a lifer in this. I enjoy it for what it is, I don't ever look at escort agencies as a dating service.
 

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I find this hilarious.
A self admitted hobbyist for the past 20 or so years giving advice to young men on how to date and hook up with civilian ladies.
This from somebody who probably hasn't gotten a kiss from a woman that he didn't have to pay for.
A world of experience on Seeking Arrangements and escorts half his age, obviously makes him the Dear Abby of the love lorn.

I guess this is a side job when not giving out unrequested words of wisdom on the world or calling jocks morons.
I hate to break it to you, money can buy you sex, but not love, it just makes you a walking wallet.
Yes, you guessed it, I was a jock.

The advice I gave to HM comes from life experience and it was pretty good advice.

FYI I have staged two miniparties with friends I brought to Montreal, who are much younger than me. I also went to clubs with them. One of them is a former professional athlete and All American in 2 sports at an American college. He also is a fairly well educated man who was forced to retire due to injury and now owns his own company. I have seen him in action with women, both pro and civilian. His shtick is no better than mine. I had plenty of experience as a younger man in the civilian world and the advice I gave HM is what I have seen actually work. I have also met HM many times and discussed the topic with him in person. I like the guy, if I didn't I wouldn't even bother posting here. He is a smart guy who is only lacking in experience on his shtick.
 

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Actually pretty sad that your proudest moments seem to be these bought and paid for mini parties that we keep hearing about.
You talk about sound advice and shtick.
Shtick is not sound advice, that is BS, and it only works when laced with money.
How about trying to be honest and kind with a woman and treating her like a lady, it beats shtick and bs every time in the long run.

How about you don't really know enough to know about what you are talking about? I lived a long time with no money and had a lot of experience during that time....and BTW I was NOT talking about paid for sex parties I was talking about routine encounters at clubs and bars ........of which my friends insist upon for the very reason to keep their social skills sharp. If you think we are a pack or morons with a big wad of bills you have the wrong picture but from your posts which would be laughable to these guys, it's pretty clear you do not get it.
 

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Wow you guys guys are being so rude to each other lol. Just wanted to say it. Keep going I have my popcorn
 

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EB,
This is your answer to everything, anybody that disagrees with you either doesn't know anything, or is a moron, or stirring shit.
No I don't think you are a bunch of morons . I think you are a highly intelligent person with an inormously inflated sense of self worth.
You more than likely had your heart broken early on in life and now want to compensate by proving how great you are with women by keeping your "shtick razor sharp" and throwing money at them.
What ever you do, don't give advice on relationships, you obviously suck at them, keep it to other topics where you shine.
Contrary to what you may think, I do value your posts on other topics you are a colourful and intelligent man, just very misguided where women are concerned.

And what makes you such an expert on my relationship history? Your posts on this point are speculative and wrong- you are just shooting from the hip trying to denigrate my credibility and everyone here can see that. I am a single man by choice and have been my whole life. That does not mean I was somehow damaged earlier in my life. I went through the same dating and breakup process as everyone else. I chose to do what I have done. I was in a serious relationship and ended it because monogamy isn't who I am. I had no more or less rejection and unhappiness than the average guy when I was 20-40 years old. What I do have that is superior to you is that I did not spend 30 years with one woman such that I got no experiences with other women. You cannot and never will make up that lost experience. You are 30 years behind me in this. If you want to be 30 years ahead of me, go to the marriage advice board.

You don't know and haven't met me or Mike. From the times I have spoken to Mike, he is receptive to advice from others. He does not think he has it all figured out. That is why I gave him advice. Smug people like you I don't bother with because they put in their 2 cents and it is usually worth just that. I also think I gave Mike some useful advice. Let him be the judge of that.
 

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Wow, 2 old men providing entertainment for a beautiful young lady.
Almost makes this thread worthwhile.
Usually I detest any kind of confrontation and walk away from it, this one though somehow got under my skin.

Having met Lexie, I know she prefer some other form of entertainment ;)

Cheers,
 

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You think bulling people on a website or calling them morons gives you credibility?
You are right I don't know your personal history and I don't care to.
I am not smug, and my 2 cents is worth the same as yours, no matter how inflated your ego is.
You think I am 30 years behind you, in what, paying for someone to spend time with me. Be my guest, add another 20 or 30.
Yes I was monogamous for over thirty years because I was lucky enough to find the love of my life and build a lifetime of memories and a family. Guilty!
As far as no experience, like I said I was a pro athlete, I had my fair share of women prior to getting married, but I was more than happy to give up that lifestyle.
To this day I would give anything I have to spend another day with her, that is something you may never know or understand.
Everybody deserves to choose to live the life they want, I am nobody to judge, but neither are you.

Please give us all a freaking break. All you do is judge every post you make and say the same totally incorrect things and then moan about how much better it is to be in a monogamous relationship. You are again wrong on my history and it's beyond laughable. Many guys play pro and civilian games, one does not exclude the other. The main question I and others have is WHY ARE YOU HERE????????????? You are the the single most judgmental person who I have seen posting on this board as to others and why they may be here. And you are smug- behind every one of your posts is the subtle "I had a great 30 years with one woman while you guys are reduced to paying for sex. You guy suck, I had it all." WHY ARE YOU HERE????????????????????????????????????? You don't know shit and yet you speak as though you have been in the dating and escort games forever. Being a jock does not mean anything and the fact that you say that to give yourself credibility shows how little you really have.

You attacked me for giving advice to Halloween Mike, someone who I, unlike you, know personally. I would tell Mike the same thing if I saw him in person and I have had like discussions with him in person. I don't lecture him. We talk. He can take or leave what I said. I thought it was pretty good advice, for him. Not for you and not to be commented on by you since you don't know him or I but just have your judgmental notions about what is valuable in relationships.
 

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Guys time to quit this little tempest between you two. You both look bad in this silly fight over ego.
M20 closed the Trumped thread for a milder case of name calling.
If you both attend VIP 10 then I`ll ask Lexie to give you a lap dance after you guys shake hands.
 

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Guys time to quit this little tempest between you two. You both look bad in this silly fight over ego.
M20 closed the Trumped thread for a milder case of name calling.
If you both attend VIP 10 then I`ll ask Lexie to give you a lap dance after you guys shake hands.

Tell him he is full of shit and I will quit. He has been insulting you, me and every other member since day 1, telling us he had it all and we didn't, he had a great woman and we are all know-nothings who pay for sex because we are compelled to do so, presumably because he thinks we have to. Did you ever ask WTF is this guy doing on MERB? He is as much a troll as Tony is, with more ego. He has never been at any party and never will be, the ultimate keyboard coward. I think he should be off MERB or at least suspended due to poor attitude. Conduct detrimental to the MERB team since he is a jock and needs to hear it in jockspeak.
 
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