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Halloween Mike,

My father and I always have had differences on hotels. I like staying at better hotels. My father can stay wherever he wants, but chooses to stay at low end hotels, including a real dump when he came back to visit me a few years ago. My father came from a different generation that believed in being conservative and thrifty, plus he was in the U.S. Army. As long as there is a roof over his head, and a bird doesn't crap on his forehead while he is asleep, he doesn't care about any amenities. This had led to many fights with my mother in their 50 plus years of marriage, as my mother is more like me and wants to stay at nicer hotels.

Because I have become an experienced traveller to Montreal and other cities, I will not stay at the hotels my father insists on staying at and when I travel with him (to places like Key West, Boston, New York City, etc.), I pay for the travel arrangements and he has to accept what I book.

However, if we took a trip together to Montreal, he would be happy staying at the Travelodge. He wouldn't care. When we went to Key West a few years ago, we stayed at what I can best describe as a high end motel, and he loved it. It looked like a typical motel on the outside but was 4 star hotel quality on inside, yet to him it did not have an extravagant or excessively comfortable feel and he mentioned to me he would like to go there again. It was the one place I can remember we both agreed on the lodging being acceptable. The only problem was we heard a rooster cackling at sunrise every day, but this is a problem throughout Key West, as these chickens are allowed to walk around like people on that island, unfettered. If you eat lunch on the terrace they will be pecking away at any food that falls off the table. You can't touch or harm them, they have same rights as humans.
 

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More or less what im trying to say is more expensive does not always mean "BETTER"
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Hello HM

I fully agree expensive doesn't mean better !

Its true for a Rolex ,time is time ! However prestige isn't the same

A Persian Tabriz Mahee doesn't look better

A Lalique vase

Gianni Versace designer cloths or linen

Or any other high- end, to appreciate the difference ,you need to have the knowledge and fianancial stature .

To phrase EB" buyers remorse "if you have it you cannot appreciate high-end




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Someone else mentioned hanging on to their BMW because it gave him joy, I let mine go because it didn't, and the result was I see 2 more escorts a month and that is what makes me happy. For other people here it may be different, but they have to do the analysis and decide how to spend their extra cash.

Nice analogy.
But the closest i found that can compare to escort is food, even tough its still very loosy and i don't compare women themselves to food, just the high end comparison. I have been to more expensive restaurant, maybe not "high end" with crazy prices but where everything was double as of a regular place. And to be honest the food was not better for me, and i was much more joyfull going out either to my favourite fast food or "mom and pops" restaurant in my local area.

Hell even in fast food. An Hamburger, a regular one, cost almost 4$ at valentine in my town. While at mcdo i can have a mcdouble cheese bacon for 2.39 or something like that. For the price of the cheese burger bacon at valentine, i have a full deluxe hamburger at mcdo.

EB and HM, thanks for keeping it real lol I don't necessarily agree with you on these specific points. but you are 2 of my very short list of favorite posters on this board.

My 2 cents on the actual topic of this thread: HDH's are probably best suited for the traveling businessman who is in town for one night and wants a classy girl who will show up on time, not look out of place at a nice hotel or restaurant and be sure to deliver good service. Kind of like Spitzer lol.

Most the regular posters on this board either visit Mtl for fun or live in Mtl and can take a little risk in trying out new girls. Even with the top agencies, there is some risk she will be late, dressed inappropriately, be a little immature, etc. But if you are in town for one night and have a short window to see an escort, you are willing to pay extra for a sure thing.
 

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Hello HM

I fully agree expensive doesn't mean better !

Its true for a Rolex ,time is time ! However prestige isn't the same

A Persian Tabriz Mahee doesn't look better

A Lalique vase

Gianni Versace designer cloths or linen

Booker

Booker,

I rather have an Halo poster on the wall than a picasso. Only reason i would want a picasso is to sell it, i mean i don't care about that kind of art AT ALL

I rather have a shirt of Metallica or any good band with a cool logo than any versace or whatever deisgn cloathing

I prefer to look time on my cell phone when i need it then to carry a watch on my arm that i always bump everywhere (thats what happened before i had a cell phone lol)

You see, everything is relative, the only reason i would want any of those thing is to get them cheap to sell them... make a profit, but no i do not "apreciate" there design or such.

Eager : Hum that make sense, especially for a former soldier, he have seen the worst of the worst in term of sleeping place lol. But maybe actually he does not want to pay for those high end places that he just not like anyway. Even if you pay, maybe he feel unconfortable that you do. Or maybe he is just part of the smaller % i mentioned that do not care about where they stay at.

I will admit my dream house to be honest is the mansion in the movie CASPER. Loved the design of the main hall, love the creepy feel to it. I would love to leave in such place with secret passages too. But that does mean i would not apreciate a luxury appartement either. And the pool !!! Damn i would love a pool, inside too so i can swim in winter lol.

Arthur : Thanks haha, glad to entertain you.
 

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Booker,

I rather have an Halo poster on the wall than a picasso. Only reason i would want a picasso is to sell it, i mean i don't care about that kind of art AT ALL

Hello HM and all


Well I did say I agreed with you ,its the clients choice ,
However I do have some Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Coté,& I will admit that prefer them to halo poster ,but thats me ,And I agree that every has different taste and different means




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Thus exactly what i said, that "high end" does not mean much. That you can have an awesome meeting with an SP at 200$ and a bad one with one at 400$ and those can be inverted as well. All a matter of preference and therefore that confirm that its a "myth"mostly. But again like i said im fully ok with anybody charging what they want, in every domaine too, but just as in anything, if somebody can do the job just as good another person, at 50% the price... yup ill go with the cheapest of the 2. But then if the other one charge as high, he must certainly be in business for a reason, so what he do is right too. Different business type and model thats it.
 

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Interesting conversation, a lot of great feedback from some ladies and gentlemen that have obviously been around for a while, at the very least. Also I have noticed 5 pages in and still the subject has remained on topic.

I believe that as a group that we will never be able to come to a consensus regarding this issue, because the inherent fault is with the initial question/premise. Here's the thing, I honestly cannot argue with any of the point that where brought up above, aside from the fact that we are comparing people who perform a service with a product. What it comes down to is a personal choice as to what you want and what is important to you.

I work in the IT industry, and my hourly rates ranges from 95$/hour to as much as 250$/hour and that is before we factor in any overtime and off hour rates. However I know others who charge as little as 30$/hour. The question I get asked all the time is why would I pay you even 95$/hour when I can pay this other person 30$/hour. Here is what it comes down to:
1) I have the experience, to get the job done and I can back it up with references
2) I have the knowledge and tools to provide a superior service.
3) More importantly customer know that I can be trusted. I have keys and alarms codes to a number of my clienteles establishment.
4) I offer a guarantee, once I provide a quote, I am engaging myself to honor said pricing and service levels.

Can the same be said for my competitor that is charging 30$/hour?

Why do I charge those rates?

1) Honestly because I can and there are people willing to pay.
2) It avoids me from having to deal with a certain kind of customer that is always going to try and haggle with me and ask me for freebies. Or call me on off hours expecting me to jump at their slightest whim.
3) At those rates I can afford to hire quality employees and contractors should I be unable to do the job, either for a lack of knowledge or lack of time. I still remain responsible for the endeavor, but I have someone else do the heavy lifting. I also know at those rates I am paying them, which are very competitive, I do not have to worry that they will drop me for a more lucrative opportunity and the job will get done as promised.
4) It allows me to invest in the proper tools and training, so that I can get the job done more efficiently and with less issues.

And of course I could go on. Do I necessary make a lot more by charging these rates? And the answer is no, not really. Yes I do make more money that the person charging 30$/hour, however my investment is a lot larger than theirs and so is the risks. As I do not deal in large volumes, should I lose a contract or a long term customer, I do not have 500 more to take their place. Also I tend to charge for less hours than that person who charges 30$/hour. I have been told by my customer that for the same job 1/3 less billable hours in some cases. I am not a Walmart, making my money on selling volume, which is what my competitor does, nor is that what I will every try to do.

So let's bring this back to the discussion at hand... Why do certain ladies charge the price they do... I am sure that some of their reason's parallel many of mine. Looking to target a particular kind of customer. Have you noticed that none offer 30 minutes encounters and quite a number of them have a minimum of 2 hours. They spend time and money on things that cost money like using a professional photographer vs perhaps doing it themselves or having a friend or acquaintance do it for them. I have noticed that their websites tend to be more detailed and contain more content and look like they have been professionally designed. The are registered with a variety of services that can validate their authenticity (DateCheck, P411, etc.) And they put more effort into the marketing themselves. Of course then there is the money they tend to spend on their wardrobe, hair, make-up etc because that is what their target customers want and are willing to pay for. And of course, they are most assuredly lower volume and/or the appearance of exclusivity which to some people is worth its weight in gold.

What it really comes down to what is important to each individual both courtesan and hobbyist. Unlike a product, there is really no unbiased way to quantify that a particular lady is better than another. Just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is one's experience with another person. So therefore for some, it is that perfect gem that they found at 160$/hour and for others they want the higher end courtesan that can satisfy their needs and vice versa.

My apologies for rambling on... Just got on a role there.
 

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All in all, the point Lou made that you are not all clients is rather appropriate.

I think the meaning of the thread was if it was a myth that high end escort where much better then regular agency or indy. If it was worth it. But for the regular johns of this board not the minority who do not care spending 1000$/hour, pocket changes for them. But these guys are not on this board and they are a minority. For the regular johns like me and many on this board who are all right financially and can see 2-3 girls at 200$/hour per month, is it worth it to spend 500$ or even more on a high end girl? Answer for me is no. I did enjoy very much the few encounters I had at that price but not more or less then all the girls I see from agency or indy at 200$ range.

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Interesting conversation, a lot of great feedback from some ladies and gentlemen that have obviously been around for a while, at the very least. Also I have noticed 5 pages in and still the subject has remained on topic.

I believe that as a group that we will never be able to come to a consensus regarding this issue, because the inherent fault is with the initial question/premise. Here's the thing, I honestly cannot argue with any of the point that where brought up above, aside from the fact that we are comparing people who perform a service with a product. What it comes down to is a personal choice as to what you want and what is important to you.

I work in the IT industry, and my hourly rates ranges from 95$/hour to as much as 250$/hour and that is before we factor in any overtime and off hour rates. However I know others who charge as little as 30$/hour. The question I get asked all the time is why would I pay you even 95$/hour when I can pay this other person 30$/hour. Here is what it comes down to:
1) I have the experience, to get the job done and I can back it up with references
2) I have the knowledge and tools to provide a superior service.
3) More importantly customer know that I can be trusted. I have keys and alarms codes to a number of my clienteles establishment.
4) I offer a guarantee, once I provide a quote, I am engaging myself to honor said pricing and service levels.

Can the same be said for my competitor that is charging 30$/hour?

Why do I charge those rates?

1) Honestly because I can and there are people willing to pay.
2) It avoids me from having to deal with a certain kind of customer that is always going to try and haggle with me and ask me for freebies. Or call me on off hours expecting me to jump at their slightest whim.
3) At those rates I can afford to hire quality employees and contractors should I be unable to do the job, either for a lack of knowledge or lack of time. I still remain responsible for the endeavor, but I have someone else do the heavy lifting. I also know at those rates I am paying them, which are very competitive, I do not have to worry that they will drop me for a more lucrative opportunity and the job will get done as promised.
4) It allows me to invest in the proper tools and training, so that I can get the job done more efficiently and with less issues.

And of course I could go on. Do I necessary make a lot more by charging these rates? And the answer is no, not really. Yes I do make more money that the person charging 30$/hour, however my investment is a lot larger than theirs and so is the risks. As I do not deal in large volumes, should I lose a contract or a long term customer, I do not have 500 more to take their place. Also I tend to charge for less hours than that person who charges 30$/hour. I have been told by my customer that for the same job 1/3 less billable hours in some cases. I am not a Walmart, making my money on selling volume, which is what my competitor does, nor is that what I will every try to do.

So let's bring this back to the discussion at hand... Why do certain ladies charge the price they do... I am sure that some of their reason's parallel many of mine. Looking to target a particular kind of customer. Have you noticed that none offer 30 minutes encounters and quite a number of them have a minimum of 2 hours. They spend time and money on things that cost money like using a professional photographer vs perhaps doing it themselves or having a friend or acquaintance do it for them. I have noticed that their websites tend to be more detailed and contain more content and look like they have been professionally designed. The are registered with a variety of services that can validate their authenticity (DateCheck, P411, etc.) And they put more effort into the marketing themselves. Of course then there is the money they tend to spend on their wardrobe, hair, make-up etc because that is what their target customers want and are willing to pay for. And of course, they are most assuredly lower volume and/or the appearance of exclusivity which to some people is worth its weight in gold.

What it really comes down to what is important to each individual both courtesan and hobbyist. Unlike a product, there is really no unbiased way to quantify that a particular lady is better than another. Just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is one's experience with another person. So therefore for some, it is that perfect gem that they found at 160$/hour and for others they want the higher end courtesan that can satisfy their needs and vice versa.

My apologies for rambling on... Just got on a role there.

Sorry for the long quote, but, I think here there are valid points made all along it.

I want to add something particular also; there is no surprise than, as it look, a majority of Merb members would choose and say that they don't see any notable difference at the end to satisfy their "needs", but if I noticed well, this is a review board and by its own nature, there will be a good amount of "consumers" here who will be hunting the "best for the least", to find the best deal in other words. And in the spirit to talk a language that has been used here to compare escorts VS others ways to spend with less or more luxury his money, let's say that obviously, I adore to have my coupons of some hamburger fast-food and able to eat around 10$ a meal, but for my part, I know exactly the difference of that kind of meal I had so cheaply VS to go to eat at a very reputable steak house restaurant. Some may argue that is still beef meat, that's still potato and sauce and you don't need all the decorum and the fla-fla of the high-end restaurant, and at the end, you are going to have your stomach filled anyway. So here, I am talking more about the global experience, and each of us knows exactly the difference. I can't truly believe someone who will say there is no difference, common.

What I want to add different, and this, "strangely" nobody talked about it yet......In Montreal, there is a fair amount of ladies who just don't know their worth and how much they could really ask for. And that's exactly the kind of ladies who are receiving a lots of comments/reviews, because they are "a deal". And that's explain a lot a part of the interest to see a "new talent" found in agency the majority of time or on the cheapest sites of advertising. Some people here are just great specialists of "TOFF", we saw that, that's not a secret. That's always be the purpose of reviews boards, to "find deals" and also, to find the "worth" and the "stay away". I understand very much people with limited budget to want to "find deals" and the "worth", because that represent too much for themselves of their times/work to waste even 1$. So imagine sometimes, 20$? or 40$? But at the end, you are all looking for the more appealing girls/women who look/act like the most as an HDH but at the donation of a LDH, if I have well understood some previous comments, exact? So, you know the difference and appreciate it already.

If a lady is asking more, it is just because she can, because she evaluate herself and her presence at this level, having the self-confidence to do it.
Some ladies I know could definitively ask more, but all this a matter of a personal preference and view about her activities, and maybe something related to experience or observation of the milieu.

Oh, and by the way I think about it, if someone is a "100% services person" and want to meet a "courtesan" kind of escort, is this kind of "consumer" would be very able to appreciate completely what he could get more, if for him his appreciation would be the amount of the check he could do on a "imaginary to-do list" instead to savour the entire experience? I don't know, that's a question I'm asking here. You know, if you are a big fan of hamburgers and you like to eat quickly and that you are very happy and satisfy like this, why bothering yourself then to go to eat slowly a fabulous meal prepared by a chef with attention with more delicate chosen ingredients?

Anyway, that's enough of divagation here, I am now hungry and going to eat. :lol:
 

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Hi Maria,

Your observation applies both ways. There are escorts who are underestimating their value, but also others who are overestimating their value. Personally, I go for deals. It is not because I cannot afford HDH ladies, but because that the balance between an HDH girl fare and an "LDL" girl fare could be invested elsewhere. I am still not convinced that the difference in prices is justified service-wise.

Fortunately, we have all price ranges in Montreal from 60$ to 500$ and everybody is happy :fat:
 

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I may have missed this on the previous 6 pages of replies, but I recall an interesting study done years back. The basic gist was this: People were offered two bottles of wine, one priced at $5 and the other priced at $50. They were asked to rate the wines and generally gave higher ratings to the more expensive one. As you can all probably guess, it was a research setup: both wines were the same. Summary of the conclusion was that people felt compelled to believe the more expensive wine was actually better.

While all the analogies between women and cars/watches/wine/etc fall well short (!), I think the general sense of "is a HDH "better" than a LDH is going to always be difficult to determine for many reasons, not least of which is described above: when you're paying more money for something, you tend to believe it will be/is better (whether in fact it was or not).

In my somewhat limited experience, I have felt that those that charged a bit more were indeed better in many respects - cleaner location, better snacks offered, nicer clothing, music, etc. etc.
 
It's simple: people will see value where they want to see it and will attribute value according to what's available in their wallets.

There are so many (flawed) comparisons, "logics" and deductions in this thread to justify spending less. Just remember that not everybody who spends time with companions who have a higher honorarium think like you. If spending less makes you and your wallet happy, good for you but don't take away from the ladies who charge above your comfort zone.
 

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Hello Gabriella and all


It's simple: people will see value where they want to see it and will attribute value according to what's available in their wallets.
Exactly and value is always a question of perception from the client and that perception as you say is influence by what they have available in their wallets ,without compressing other hobbies they also enjoy or purchases
There are so many (flawed) comparisons, "logics" and deductions in this thread to justify spending less.
Obviously a multi millionaire will not have the same logic then a Broke or almost broke guy neither the same logic
Just remember that not everybody who spends time with companions who have a higher honorarium think like you. If spending less makes you and your wallet happy, good for you but don't take away from the ladies who charge above your comfort zone.
Correct again ,not everyone thinks and spends money with the same filling .
Someone that needs to grind to save $400 for is 2 hours session twice a month ,will more then likely think that has excellent value ,with a average priced SP ,he is after all right for him ,but for with thick wallets it is and always will be a different story .
Money talks specially in the escort world .
http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php
Over 20 years ago I was Booking High-end ladies in Montreal at $250 per hours with minimum hours
According to the inflation calculator it would now be with the year of reference 1995
$250 of 1995 dollars would be worth: $393.08 in 2015.
Its very close of the $400 mark adding minimum ,it wasn't for all clients and all wallets ,but High-end clients where really in it .



Cheers




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It's simple: people will see value where they want to see it and will attribute value according to what's available in their wallets.

There is a lot of truth to what you say, from my own observations. There are some guys who are flat out cheapasses, but they will never look in the mirror and see a cheapass looking back at them. They will see a guy who, in their own head, is "one of the guys", is well liked, etc. but they don't understand girls also see them as cheapasses (after all what girl will tell a guy he is a cheapass). They also don't understand that generous guys get more than they do and that this is a large part of YMMV in reviews. It's impossible for them to understand this because they have never been generous to women.

On my last trip to Montreal, on my second night in town after the Euphoria mini-party, I arranged an outcall to my hotel room with a lady I had met at a Montreal massage parlor. I emailed the MP operator and told him I would pay the MP's one hour fee, and give the girl her usual tip. I tipped the girl $260 for full service (including covered FS and BBBJTCIM) and also on top of that paid the MP its one hour fee which I gave the girl when she arrived at my hotel. The lady drove to my hotel in her own car, texted me updates as to her location, and was essentially on time giving allowance for the usual downtown traffic/parking snafus. It was actually a lot more comfortable to have sex on a bed than on a massage table.

The cheapass client will hear this and say, "you paid way too much." But what he doesn't understand is the lady is way above average (at least from my experience and for my tastes), and the service I got will never happen for the cheapass client who sees her. Period and end of story. The proof is the YMMV nature of her reviews and in my own dealings with her. What YMMV sometimes means is the cheapass client doesn't get good service because the girl recognizes him for what he is: Mr. Cheapass. In Mr. Cheapass's head, it's all about how cool he is with the girl, but the girl doesn't think he is cool at all, she think's he is a cheapass. Guys tend to lose sight of the business aspect that girls in the industry work because they need money, not because they want to party with a cheapass client. For quite a few ladies in the business, you are only cool if you spend money on her. For these ladies, sex is not viewed as a charitable contribution in recognition of the hobbyist's declining budget. It's a professional service. She has something that is valuable, and if you don't value it as much as she does, you are not a good client or customer and service will be doled out accordingly.

A significant number of bad reviews posted on this board are from guys who got bad service because they are cheapasses and/or not very hygienic individuals. Virtually all of my favorite ladies I have seen were YMMV ladies on MERB who gave me very high end service, but not so for others because those others simply did not treat these ladies well. They probably think they did, but she did not think so, and what she thinks is all that really matters as far as the end result of service.
 

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There is a lot of truth to what you say, from my own observations. There are some guys who are flat out cheapasses, but they will never look in the mirror and see a cheapass looking back at them. They will see a guy who, in their own head, is "one of the guys", is well liked, etc. but they don't understand girls also see them as cheapasses (after all what girl will tell a guy he is a cheapass). They also don't understand that generous guys get more than they do and that this is a large part of YMMV in reviews. It's impossible for them to understand this because they have never been generous to women.

On my last trip to Montreal, on my second night in town after the Euphoria mini-party, I arranged an outcall to my hotel room with a lady I had met at a Montreal massage parlor. I emailed the MP operator and told him I would pay the MP's one hour fee, and give the girl her usual tip. I tipped the girl $260 for full service (including covered FS and BBBJTCIM) and also on top of that paid the MP its one hour fee which I gave the girl when she arrived at my hotel. The lady drove to my hotel in her own car, texted me updates as to her location, and was essentially on time giving allowance for the usual downtown traffic/parking snafus. It was actually a lot more comfortable to have sex on a bed than on a massage table.

The cheapass client will hear this and say, "you paid way too much." But what he doesn't understand is the lady is way above average (at least from my experience and for my tastes), and the service I got will never happen for the cheapass client who sees her. Period and end of story. The proof is the YMMV nature of her reviews and in my own dealings with her. What YMMV sometimes means is the cheapass client doesn't get good service because the girl recognizes him for what he is: Mr. Cheapass. In Mr. Cheapass's head, it's all about how cool he is with the girl, but the girl doesn't think he is cool at all, she think's he is a cheapass. Guys tend to lose sight of the business aspect that girls in the industry work because they need money, not because they want to party with a cheapass client. For quite a few ladies in the business, you are only cool if you spend money on her. For these ladies, sex is not viewed as a charitable contribution in recognition of the hobbyist's declining budget. It's a professional service. She has something that is valuable, and if you don't value it as much as she does, you are not a good client or customer and service will be doled out accordingly.

A significant number of bad reviews posted on this board are from guys who got bad service because they are cheapasses and/or not very hygienic individuals. Virtually all of my favorite ladies I have seen were YMMV ladies on MERB who gave me very high end service, but not so for others because those others simply did not treat these ladies well. They probably think they did, but she did not think so, and what she thinks is all that really matters as far as the end result of service.

Kind of need to disagree with your post. If I see someone at euphoria for example and the amount is not paid till after the service it knd of throws your theory out the window.
There are many people who are axtremely happy with setting the bar at $250 max and do not think any are cheapasses. People can say you are a cheapass for getting rid of your BMW, it just depends on priorities. No need to ( in my mind ) spend $400 for an escort here when so many treasures are around for half the price. There is a difference between being cheap and knowing your needs. I do not need the gratification of telling people I spent $400 an hr on a SP, the people I know that know I hobby are very suprised when I show them the Euphoria, MTLGFE or XXXTASE websites, just my opinion but many of these ladies look better than quite a few HDH and their reviews are outstanding.
 

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I do not set any max limit on escorts, which should be obvious since I have paid as much as $1500 an hour, in NYC and in Miami, to see swimsuit models. If I think a girl is worth it I will pay it. I think a fair number of hobbyists operate this way. However, I do set limits with other expenses like cars, and wine. Because my criteria for spending on those things is different. I will NOT buy a cheap bottle of wine usually because they suck and you get what you pay for, but I do believe many good wines can be had in the $20-$30 range and I don't feel the need to spend more.

On the other hand, I tend to not have a budget for items like electric razors. I spent around $200 on the last one, which proved not to be a wise investment, although I have owned many Phillips Norelco razors through the years and it's the first one that has been a disappointment.

There are a few other flaws in your logic. Cars don't think their owners are cheapasses, because a car is an inanimate object without a brain. No car is capable of drawing such a conclusion. However women can and do draw such conclusions. See the post of Gabriella Laurence as authority for this proposition. However, she isn't the only lady who thinks this way and so do ladies at Euphoria and other "market price" agencies.
 

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So, it is all based on your perception of who is a cheapass, someone who put $80k down on a car and 1.5mil on a house but is satisfied with a $200 escort is a cheapass.... Interesting.
 

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So, it is all based on your perception of who is a cheapass, someone who put $80k down on a car and 1.5mil on a house but is satisfied with a $200 escort is a cheapass.... Interesting.

It's not my perception that counts......it's the ladies'. This is what you keep forgetting. See end of my prior post. My perception is based on comments I have gotten from the ladies, along the lines of Gabriella's post above, and including girls working for Euphoria, and based on over 15 years of steadily seeing working women (hundreds at all price levels).
 

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I read that, still trying to figure out who she would know I am a cheapass when I pay after the session, am I supposed to walk up to her and say here is an extra $50 for a better session? Just my opinion but I think that looks rather stupid, many girls would probably take your money and still give you the same service, but you would feel like something special happened.
Walk in and mention that you live in Westmount and throw down a set of Porsche keys would do the same thing.
 

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Difference is I am drawing on the experience of having seen hundreds of women, and not one who gave a good service and was paid after a session. And read YMMV reviews, dozens, and me or a friend got way better service than the reviewer did. It's naive to think or suggest the majority of women are in the business because they love sex and don't care about what they are paid. It's not the reality for most SPs.
 
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