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Throwaway100

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How does one get started in the hobby? Do you simply call an agency and schedule an appointment? Do you need to use a fake name? Do you call from your phone or use a pay phone? Do you create a fake email? Could someone explain to me what happens when you call the agency? What questions do they ask and what do you ask them? how does a typical meeting go? Can you simply leave if you're not satisfied with the girls looks?

Thanks for explaining to a newbie!
 

neverbored

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Hey TW,

First, I'd like to think that you should choose any method of communication you are comfortable with is what you choose. Some people only prefer to use email others text voice. As a general rule, you should be conscious about the implications of using your real name with people you don't know (so that doesn't just apply to "hobbying").

Personally, I use a separate line and phone. Try not to use disposable numbers, as they are somewhat detectable by agencies and SPs and they might not even respond. Also using the same number will make it easier to establish a relationship with who you are calling which can have many benefits down the line.

I also created a separate google profile to use for my browsing and for emails which makes it easier for me to remove any traces on my computer.

Whomever you contact can answer any questions you have. But since most of the information is available on their sites or this board, I'd suggest not wasting time asking questions they get a billion times a day. So when you call just discuss the time and place and be there when she comes or be there on time if you're going for an incall.

It can be different for everyone, but I'd say a typical meeting will start with a rush as the moment gets closer... Whenever I meet a courtesan for the first time, I try to make her as comfortable as possible. Don't forget she's walking into a strangers home or room. When I open the door I want to make sure the rooms are well lit and I don't hide behind the door. She should be somewhat comfortable walking in... but when you go to an incall don't be surprised if she's hiding behind the door. Remember that they will most often be wearing very sexy outfits and probably don't want to be exposing themselves or what they do to a passerby in the hall.

In the case where you're really not comfortable with the girl (incall or outcall), this is the best time to cancel. No need to invent a story of how you forgot your wallet in the car. Just say sorry and leave quickly. In some cases, some people do expect at least a 20$ to pay for the driver... but that's on a case by case basis, and you can even discuss that at the moment of booking. But honestly, if you did your research, there should be no need to back away. I'd say the general rule of thumb is the moment you've unwrapped her, you're accepting the terms. However I did once have a situation where the girl had a great attitude, cute face, but when she got undressed, she unfortunately had a lot of stretch marks and very different breasts due to having kids. She had photoshopped her pics. I felt bad, but discussed it with her as I knew the session wasn't going to be what I had in mind. It was hard for me as she really was a sweet girl. I gave her 40-60$ and she accepted the cancellation. But not all girls as this cooperative... again your homework will prevent that when done right.

Last note, when paying the girl, its usually proper etiquette to pay at the start of the encounter. You will read a lot of posts about how guys hate to pay at the beginning etc... as previously mentioned, I like to make the girl comfortable. So making sure she knows she isn't going to get scammed is a good thing. If you're worried about getting scammed yourself, just make sure the $ doesn't leave your room or home. So never accept that a girl leave for a few minutes with the money to pay someone else or that she forgot something in the car. Reputable girls and agencies will never request that. I usually just confirm the amount and leave it visible; they usually leave it there until get cleaned up.
 

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1. Book Hotel/Flight with Expedia
2. Contact agency/indie to set up date through email weeks ahead or contact agency through phone on the day of arrival.
3. On day of. Shower/Shave and wait for girl to show up hour prior to meeting.

I use my hobby phone even though I don't need to. Well my phone has a dual sim so more like a hobby SIM card. Most of the time I already know who I wanted to see so not much an issue there. If I don't like the girl I give her twenty bucks and send her off. Only happened once though. The hardest part for me is getting condoms since the only one I use is only found through online.
 

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me: salut, would girl name be good for 8pm tomorrow? Thanks!
Agency: booked!
me: cool! Wont let you down

Next day
Agency: just to confirm all good for 8pm
Me: parfait :)

As i am walkink to venue
Agency: she's ready, adresss, code for door, room
Me: cant wait thanks!

After the meet
Me: i am seeing stars!
Agency: haha!

That is exactly all it took for me to see one of montreal hottie very recently :)
Hope it help!
Cheers,
 

Halloween Mike

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I would say Neverbored post is VERY relevant and close to what i would had said. I would add and insist greatly on this... RESEARCH !!! Look at reviews, they are your best friends. Do not pick up your first meeting on pictures alone. Get a very well reviewed SP. One that have only or close to only great reviews. It may be harder to book the more popular girls but in the end you will be happy. Only thing ill go different than him is DO NOT PAY IN ADVANCE. Let the cash on sight yes, but do not GIVE IT. It is usually sugested to use an envelope but i never did actually... never had any problem with this. I usually put money under the hotel phone so it goes out and is visible but to take it she would had to lift the phone and it would take time so i could react. Obviously if you follow my next comments this should not even be an issues ...

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You already found merb, no need to go elsewhere. Its true there is gems on these websites as well, actually some of the well reviewed providers here advertise there as well, but since its your first time and your not experienced enough, do not start by there. You don't initiate yourself to snowboard on the pro descent right? ;) Too much fake pics, pimps promising you stuff that won't happen, even risks to your well being.

If you are going to incall, be there on time, if you prefer outcall, pick a decent hotel. No need to go 4-5 stars (unless provider specify they only go to these) , there some cool rooms in 2-3 stars hotel that do the job fine. Just avoid ST-HUBERT street near the bus station, had issues years ago when booking from there. Not the hotel themselves but girls refusing to go there as these hotels are not well seen. Usually SPs will be more than fine with Chablis/Chabrol unless specified they don't go there. Its an hobby place... not super discreet but always effective.

I would sugest booking by text, when i started i didn't had a cell phone, they existed but they where not "widely used" like now, and i remember how shy i was to call. I could sometimes circle in my room for like 45 mins before actually taking my guts and calling. I hated to talk to the booker. Guys would intimidate me and girls would make me feel shy/ashamed. When i got a cell and started texting oh was it a relief lol. Obviously it may be different for you, its just my personal experience. Now i know most of the bookers and i wouldn't be shy to call at all lol but back then text really helped me.. Only use email if you think about pre-booking an indy many days in advance or such.

As for using another cell or whatever, do it if seeing escorts could be a problem in your regular life. If your like me and tell your friends how awesome your MTL trip was... well don't lol.



Also indies or agencies? Does not really matter honestly... there is gems on both side.
 

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Reviews is the way to go, how many times have I gone in blind and relied on the pics in the ads to find out they are not of the SP.
 

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I always prefered independents because I like to talk (or write) with the person I'm going to meet rather than someone else. I usually contact them by e-mail because it's easier to exchange questions and take the time to think about what you are writing (I use a separate e-mail account). Good indies often have more personal websites and ads that gives you an idea of their personnality. It's also easier to book a few days ahead. With an agency you often have to see who is available on that day and it could be more difficult if you want to see someone in particular.
 

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How does one get started in the hobby?

My 2 cents with 2 suggestions:
1. Do not take it too seriously and do not overdo your preparations. Unlike in a civilian relationship any mishap in the hobby will inflict only a bit of damage to your valet.
2. Start with well-reviewed Indy and don’t hesitate to tell her you are a virgin in the hobby. I started myself long time ago with incredible Lili Love and I will remember her to my last days.
 

Halloween Mike

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HM was saying use text,no:use whatever the lady says she prefers,if she says email use email ,I prefer emails and arguing with me that you prefer text (by text) is not an incentive to see you.
She says text by all mean use texts and read sites infos and rates before writing. We spend a lot of energy to provide as much information you need before first contact.

Email for indies work great because you can send an email 3-4 days in advance for a planned time and exchange that way. But i would personally still confirm by text the morning of the booking and send my room number by text, as even with today's thecnologies i find emails take a little more time to be answered. Even having my mail notifications on my phone i sometimes miss mails, either when they arrive in the spam folder (happen a lot with kijiji's contact) or simply because i didn't check them immediately and some others added or whatever.

Also and this is for me, i don't have data plan on my cell (i use wifi at home and at other places like mcdo and such) so its much easier to confirm everything by cell.

My sugestion was more toward phone vs text, as it seem much easier to use text with agencies and most indies do not even allow phone calls probably because they are not as convenient and take more time.

I would also recommand to avoid the small talk, be direct to the point.
 
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