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happygolucky

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Is it weird to go after 18 year old women?

In my mind I break it up quite differently. My First hangup: Paying directly for sex is illegal in most of the country where I live...... age does not make it better or worse. So paying for sex is the really only weird part for me........ yeah, if you saw me you would know that in one way or another I will always have to pay for sex....... so even booking a SP, isn't that weird for me.

My second hangup: "goes after an 18y/o teen" Only if she was attractive. By your term "goes after", if you mean to LTR date- I would say HELL NO! She is going to go through way too many changes until she is maybe 25 or so, for me to consider. If "goes after" means to book a SP, then yes, I do go after 18 y/o sometimes, if they are attractive to me. If "goes after" means anything involving ONLY 18 y/o's & that I have a youth fetish...... tough call, I am not a shrink & I have a huge blind-spot when it comes to how I live my life.

When I was younger, I hated that quite a few attractive, young women dated upperclassmen, or later in life older men. This has the way it has always been. When men get divorced, most of them date much younger women than their former wives. Youth will always be attractive. In my mind it is much weirder for me to be part of this wonderful community and a active member, than to pay for sex with a young woman. In fact I would feel that I was cheating myself(and much weirder), if I paid for sex with a older woman, when there are so many really nice younger women in Montreal.

Don't worry, I understand that I am weird and that even though I am old, I do not know a lot about any of the aspects of LOVE(including sex). I am going to try to do something about it. When I return to Montreal in December, I have asked Maria Divina(she is listed as 34 years old) to teach me more about physical part of love making.

Okay the simple answers for me:

Long term dating a 18 year old- Not weird, but very stupid on my part... I will most likely get hurt in the end.

Short term dating a 18 year old- Still not weird, more like one in a million that a 18 year old would find me more attractive than say a twenty year old? If she wasn't creep'ed out by my age & knew that it just for fun..... sure why not? Don't worry, it hasn't happened yet & most likely never will.

Booking a 18 year old SP- Very normal, if she is the most attractive SP working that night......... No guilt, at 18 she is legal in every country in the world......... as long as we are talking about a 18 year old SP, who chooses to work in this business and was not forced to work in this business.

Is it wrong to be with a consenting 18 year old in any situation? NO. My views on this are, we cannot help who we are attracted to, if we are lucky are attractions fall within society's norm, but as long as we are not breaking the laws of the land and there is mutual attraction why question someone else's fetishes, hangups, attractions or lifestyles? We should all live our lives to make ourselves and the ones we love happy........ regardless of age?
 
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happygolucky

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MG_mtl said:
Happy, thanks for your participation in this thread but you should have asked for my permission before posting my reply to your PM in this thread. Although there is nothing compromising in it, you should NEVER post other posters' PM's in public threads, it is against rules and you could be banned for it.


It is my opinion and I am asking for everyone else's. I do not want you to admit squat.

Sorry MG_mtl, my bad. I thought when you replied with this:

Very interesting PM, happy. Why did you PM it to me though? This is a very well thought out, written reflection. Why don't you post it in the thread I started? It would be a great contribution on your part.

I mistook that as a invitation to post it. I have deleted your reply PM in my post. I am sincerely sorry for the lack of judgement on my part in this matter. If I get banned from this board, it might be a good thing for me and I now understand that what I did wrong and will never post some else's PM content without permission in the future.

Maybe I am also wrong in what your motives are? Maybe it is just my assuming that you are hating on the older guys and trying to impose your morals on us, when in reality you are just trying to understand how people can be and think so different? Fear and age can sometimes make you see only the negative at times. How's this, I will admit that I am a old fool and I have still a lot to learn about life. Peace my younger brother.
 

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happygolucky said:
Sorry MG_mtl, my bad. I thought when you replied with this, I mistook that as a invitation to post it. I have deleted your reply PM in my post. I am sincerely sorry for the lack of judgement on my part in this matter.
It's OK... guess we'll put in on the account of you being a Newbie.

happygolucky said:
Maybe I am also wrong in what your motives are? Maybe it is just my assuming that you are hating on the older guys and trying to impose your morals on us, when in reality you are just trying to understand how people can be and think so different?
Bravo! You have finally gotten it! I am not imposing my morals on anyone, that would be called a GGism on Merb!:D Sorry it was an easy one... Seasoned Merbites will get my joke ;)
 

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My experience with 18 year olds is this: they don't know what they are doing and their services reflect it.

Better to find a chick who has been at it for a while.

They are best when they are about 21 or so.

But don't discount the services of much more experienced women. They do get better with age.
 

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jackyo8193 said:
My experience with 18 year olds is this: they don't know what they are doing and their services reflect it.

Better to find a chick who has been at it for a while.

They are best when they are about 21 or so.

But don't discount the services of much more experienced women. They do get better with age.
Bingo. Bingo. and Bingo.
 

happygolucky

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jackyo8193 said:
My experience with 18 year olds is this: they don't know what they are doing and their services reflect it.

Better to find a chick who has been at it for a while.

They are best when they are about 21 or so.

But don't discount the services of much more experienced women. They do get better with age.

Like the echoes of your childhood laughter, ever after
Like the first time love urged you to take it's guidance, in silence
Like your heartbeat when you realize you're dying, but you're trying
Like the way you cry for a happy ending, ending......
I know.......

From Faith No More- "The Real Thing"

In my limited experience, 18 year olds know what they are doing, they just don't know what I am are into and or are repulsed by my appearance. They don't know how to fake it yet & just want to run away from the mess that they have gotten themselves into....... so they just freeze with that oh so cute deer in the headlights look in their eyes.

Finding a chick who has been at a while is no guarantee of a good session. For me, if she is heavy, out of shape, has a old appearance facially, or ugly, at my age, there is a good chance it will take me too long to get it up? Also if she is a bitter chick, because of my own negativity, I only hear the contempt & fakeness in her words and actions.

Are they the best when they are 21 or so? Maybe, but maybe not, it really depends on the woman. If she starts at 18, by 21 she might be burnt out, jaded and bitter...... feeling trapped by the easy money & easy working hours/short work weeks. True, if she was good at 18, she will most likely be even better at 21........ if she is in the business for the right reasons.

The real question is, Will she ever look hotter than she was at 18? She should if she takes care of herself, but at 18, she doesn't even have to try. It is much easier for me to guide a young SP, with affection in my actions, to do or try things that I like, then it is for me to pretend that I am turned on by a woman who isn't hot and thinks she is or that I can sense attitude, disappointment, or repulsion from.

Will she get better with age? Only if she really loves what she is doing!

The downside to booking a 18 year old?......... sometimes without even touching her physically, she might start crying because she can't believe my appearance & getting naked with me is the last thing on earth that she wants to do. Yeah, so many young ones don't last past the first month on the job. I guess you could say that I am here to weed out the weak and faithless............ and later(maybe years later actually, since you don't book the young ones), when the door opens & she sees you, she will really be overjoyed that it wasn't me or someone like me. She will treat you like a prince and her happiness will be real, because she knows how bad this job can be for her in the past!

I do not discount the affections/services of any woman regardless of age.... but in my fantasy world I am beautiful........ and that is what I am paying a SP for a beautiful dream. I will just keep dreaming.

MG_mtl, PM me if you do not want this way off topic post in your thread & I will delete it.
 

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I would not be crazy about finding out that a girl was under 18, but I wouldn't freak out. The best you can do is look at her and hope she is, I mean she could have a fake ID anyway and I couldn't tell.

I mean do you ask every dancer her age? In the middle of an LD, "..could you show me some ID?!" More than likely you have had an LD from a hot young chick, there may have been at least one that was 17. I know the girl who dances regularly for me is 26 and has been dancing for me for 6 years, 4 of them consistently and she told me she was 17 when she started.

My problem is that I generally like shorter girls with amazing little butts, and I don't usually go for big boobs which ruins the symmetry and I like a fairly flat tummy. So that occurs most often in girls that are younger. So it's not like I'm trying to go after an under-age girl. I guess the upshot is, I have to trust the agency or the club and the SP/dancer.

There was one like this who said she was 18 by 5 months and I guess I just decided to take her word on it. What can you do? She was just fine and I probably would have repeated, because she felt pretty comfortable.

All that said most have been about 20, but there were 2 in the 25-30 range were well recommended and worth every penny! The one that was 18 was a newbie and was less rushed and better than the 20 year olds who had already been doing it for 2-3 years.

-Sad-
 
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Reality is, many of these young ladies know exactly how to manipulate us guys, we're looking for a fantasy and they give it to us!

What is REAL is that many women of ALL AGES know exactly how to manipulate men. Women are very, very powerful. Like John Wayne once said, nothing frightens me other than WOMEN. :rolleyes:
 

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MG_mtl said:
How do you "older guys" feel about booking 18 y/o girls?
Didn't read any of the other posts.. just answering the main question...

18's legal... and I feel fucking fine about it...
 

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Experience over performance any time!

Personnally I find older (30-40) SPs (and dancers for that matter) much more exciting than young ones barely of legal age. Of course the physical attributes are very important at all ages. Aren't we going after a fantasy after all?

My ratio of good/bad experiences is way higher with more mature SPs. They tend to be more sensual and as years go by the feeling of the experience counts for more than the sexual performance. When I find one that make me feel the way I like, then this is a sure repeat and repeat. (I have posted reviews in the past about such an SP and I was accused of shilling and my posts were deleted)

For me to have a good experience, i want to get out of the encounter and feel that I could date that girl or I would like to be her friend.

Regarding the younger ones I have been with, I felt I was with one of my daugther's friend and frankly it was a turn off for me.

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I often don't look at the age when booking, as I know a lot of them are inaccurate. I chose based on body type and reviews. Once I get to know the SP, it is true I prefer the 21-25 age bracket, as you find the better combination or ratio of personality and hot body/looks and sexual experience in that 21-25 range.

One reason I may not feel bad with 18-20 yo is that I look about 10 years younger than I am, so that takes away some potential discomfort of being "an older guy". I also have no kids. I meet these girls for pleasure, mainly mine, (not implying I don't want to give the girl any). This is a fantasy! That is also why I rarely have real conversations with younger SPs, only small talk. This helps me not to notice the age difference.

I must admit I have little experience with over 30 SPs, though it has been great. The one thing that is very cool with an SP closer to your age is when she goes over your music collection and she knows most of the bands you have! Or let alone, no need to explain what an LP is...
 

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happygolucky said:
Is it wrong to be with a consenting 18 year old in any situation? NO. My views on this are, we cannot help who we are attracted to, if we are lucky are attractions fall within society's norm, but as long as we are not breaking the laws of the land and there is mutual attraction why question someone else's fetishes, hangups, attractions or lifestyles? We should all live our lives to make ourselves and the ones we love happy........ regardless of age?
Hello MG_mtl,

I never chose any lady in the hobby by age. So let's get that up front. We are talking about choosing escorts here. We are not looking for a true girlfriend or a real connection of souls in this hobby. It's just sex and the both of us know it in the hobby, unlike the dating scene where she risks severe emotional deception by sexually liscentious 18 year old boys who often only want all the pussy they can get regardless of any girls feelings. If someone does choose an escort of the lowest legal age what is any worse about it than choosing someone who is 40 or 50. Is she really any better off being an "escort" exclusively for 18 year old clients? NO! In this hobby it's about profit for the escort, the age of the guy/cock doesn't matter. The older guy can probably help fulfill her goal, profit, better. So why feel guilty about being with an 18 year old escort. It's just sexual gratification. That IS what she is offering and whether he is 18 or 40 or 50 the result will be exactly the same. A client got laid and a lady got paid. Excuse me for being so cold about it. Of course there can be a lot more to it than that, but that possibility is for those who lose control of their emotions. The moral question is in choosing whether to participate in the hobby, not what the legal age is of the escort someone chooses. It's just sex...if you are smart about it.

Try to be,

Korbel
 
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The one thing that is very cool with an SP closer to your age is when she goes over your music collection and she knows most of the bands you have! Or let alone, no need to explain what an LP is...

That's funny!

I had a similiar but opposite experience very recently in DC. I was booked by a 21 year old guy. When he showed up, I thought he was in his late 20s, which I do get from time to time, and rarely have a problem with. Anyhow, talking beforehand, this youngster has apparently made it big time and wanted to celebrate. Cool.

So, I am there, making references to shows of yore and music from the past. I notice he stares at me blankly when I mention them... usually late 20'ers get it! So I ask him how old he is. "Same age as you" is his response... okat, so you are 29? Oh no, 21. Okay. So I say, I am 37 ya know? He gets excited and says that is so cool!

So, I feel weird, he is happy with it. I feel weird until the sex starts, then I feel great, like a youngster myself. Sort of innocent, sort of shy, and then it is over (yea, he is ony 21!)... so he places double my fee on the dresser (? he thinks GFE is extra), and gets ready to leave. I tell him it has only been 1/2 hour, he could stay, we could do it again?! He asks how much more that costs?!

Overall, if I had known before hand that he was just 21, no, I wouldn't see him... too weird for me, and it is not likely that I will accept an appointment with him again.

xoxox
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Just-ass-weet said:
So I say, I am 37 ya know? He gets excited and says that is so cool!

Overall, if I had known before hand that he was just 21, no, I wouldn't see him... too weird for me, and it is not likely that I will accept an appointment with him again.

xoxox
Anik
Hello Just-ass-weet,

Why is being with a 21 year old client a problem? It's just business. I would think that by now you would have gotten over such details as a professional business woman.

So you are 37 now? That means you were 32 when we met in 2002. I was given to understand you were 26 or less. Naughty, naughty.

Cheers,

Korbel
 
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ZoneAlarm said:
Judging by this not only was he young but it was probably his first time seeing an escort, also possibly his first time in bed... Im curious, did u tell him he had payed u double?

ZA

It was not his first time seeing an escort, nor his first time in bed (he was very handsome, a very tall guy who says he has no time to play the dating game as he is running his own very successful business) - he was just used to the one pop rule in the US.

I hadn't checked the money, so I only saw that he paid double once he left, but I did email him to let him know... apparently he didn't know that the services I provided were included and didn't know what "extra" to put out, so he just doubled it and that it didn't matter, I deserved it (aaaww).

This happens alot in the US - you have to remember this, especially with the young guys, because the girls know they don't know, and they will charge them extra for everything, and they will only allow one pop... so, that he thought that didn't surprise me at all.

However, this wasn't a topic about me, or my practice of letting clients know when they overpaid, nor is it about whether or not the guy was new to the scene, or even about how old I am (who gives a rats ass?) it was about seeing young escorts and whether that is weird or not. I thought a little input from this side of the coin might be interesting. So to end this, I, personally, am not comfortable seeing anyone under the age of say, 25, it just feels weird for me, that is my hang up. However, I can certainly understand WHY the older guys DO enjoy seeing these young girls - it is re-energizing...

xoxox
Anik
 
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ZoneAlarm said:
To add to the sarcasm it says she is 31 next to her birthday advertisement at the bottom of the merb board. Guess we should call he the lady with many ages lol. :p

Hello ZoneAlarm,

Now, now, now...this thread isn't about a lady's honesty. It's about whether it's icky to be with a young adult, someone much younger than the other person. Besides, maybe the "+6" keys on her keyboard just don't work.

Cheers,

Korbel
 

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To add to the sarcasm it says she is 31 next to her birthday advertisement at the bottom of the merb board. Guess we should call he the lady with many ages lol. :p
Paleolithic, epipalaeolithic, neolithic... :D

Oh, relax!.............. :rolleyes:
 

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ZoneAlarm said:
To add to the sarcasm it says she is 31 next to her birthday advertisement at the bottom of the merb board. Guess we should call he the lady with many ages lol. :p

birthday ad? I don't have a b-day ad, please show me what you are referring to?

As for my age, I am 37, will be 38 on November 16th. In fact, my website used to say 29 (but born in 69) get it?! So yea, Korbel, I was 32 at the time, does that mean we didn't have fun?

xoxox
Anik

PS - sorry MG - if you think my addition to this thread is irrelevant, I will delete it, I didn't expect to be attacked for it
 
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Just-ass-weet said:
birthday ad? I don't have a b-day ad, please show me what you are referring to?

As for my age, I am 37, will be 38 on November 16th. In fact, my website used to say 29 (but born in 69) get it?! So yea, Korbel, I was 32 at the time, does that mean we didn't have fun?

xoxox
Anik
Hello Anik,

Well...seriously...you were so FUCKING HOT I wanted to take you home. But I like the truth too.

"Why don't you cum with me little girl...on a magic carpet ride"...weeeehooooo!

Kisses,

Korbel
 
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Just-ass-weet

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Aaaww, I guess this will be moved to frivolous soon! lol!

Anik

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Hello Anik,

Well...seriously...you were so FUCKING HOT I wanted to take you home. But I like the truth too.

"Why don't you cum with me little girl...on a magic carpet ride"...weeeehooooo!

Kisses,

Korbel
 
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