That's it, Erase. You've been caught.
Turns out you're a shill for Fake Dick Diseases.
Only on this site.
Thanks for proving me right...
Although it happened quicker than even I thought it would...
Thanks for proving me right...
Although it happened quicker than even I thought it would...
Hello everyone,
The moderators have not been given any more information about this than has been posted on the board. We have not been asked to intervene or to contact the girls or agencies involved and cannot do so as we do not know who they are. We also do not know if they are or are not advertising on MERB.
Erase does have other options open to him. He can file a complaint with the board of health or with the police department but doing either of these would likely require him to identify himself to them as well as admitting his activities which he may not be comfortable doing. As has been mentioned, he may also contact STELLA.
We have no reason to believe that erase is not telling the truth as he seems very credible and has shown no intention to cause a panic or to spread rumors about any specific person and how he proceeds from this point is totally up to him.
But as I have posted before, we will not permit any names to be posted without an admission or proof to back it up.
Mod 8
The moderators have not been given any more information about this than has been posted on the board. We have not been asked to intervene or to contact the girls or agencies involved and cannot do so as we do not know who they are. We also do not know if they are or are not advertising on MERB.
Erase does have other options open to him. He can file a complaint with the board of health or with the police department but doing either of these would likely require him to identify himself to them as well as admitting his activities which he may not be comfortable doing. As has been mentioned, he may also contact STELLA.
We have no reason to believe that erase is not telling the truth as he seems very credible and has shown no intention to cause a panic or to spread rumors about any specific person and how he proceeds from this point is totally up to him.
But as I have posted before, we will not permit any names to be posted without an admission or proof to back it up.
Mod 8
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Jack and others, thanks for the comments.
Man, that will look good on my CV!
I contacted the second agency again, and will give the account in a separate post. Was not particularly impressive.
This is an interesting option. I will keep in mind...
Thanks!
Either that, or he wins the Fake Dick Disease Award for fiction.
Man, that will look good on my CV!
I contacted the second agency again, and will give the account in a separate post. Was not particularly impressive.
This is an interesting option. I will keep in mind...
Thanks!
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I keep asking myself the same frickin` question - can you imagine how much I wish I`d stayed in retirement?
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Deny, deny, deny
I called the guy at the second agency again tonight, and made sure that the message had gotten through.
He claimed that the girl got checked out on Monday, and that she had ``absolutely nothing``. Also this guy just kept insisting that it is impossible to get G from oral sex, which contradicts pretty much everything I`ve been able to find in sources ranging from Wikipedia to the CDC. Claims he works with a doctor who specializes in STI`s and this guy tells him that G can only be transmitted by unprotected vaginal sex.
I also pointed out that many women are asymptomatic carriers, and it`s not clear that anyone can give the all clear until swab and blood cultures come back, which might take a day if you have direct access to a testing lab (I haven`t heard my own results after more than a week).
I was sitting in front of my computer during the call, and read the passages on Wikipedia (same as other more reliable sources) about asymptomatic carriers and transmission by oral sex to him over the phone, but he just wouldn`t budge. ``Been doing this for X years and no client ever caught anything, etc.`` Kept suggesting I should Google about Gonorrhea and I`ll see it can`t be spread by oral sex.
I tried to make it clear that, even if I didn`t get it from her, I did CIM and she should really be given proper prophylactic treatment and diagnostic tests, but he just basically blew me off.
So maybe, just maybe he had her examined by their doc first thing Monday morning and he took blood and tissue cultures and was able to pull strings to get the results the next day. And maybe these tests showed she was clean (although at l`Actuel they made it very clear that some tests are pointless unless administered more than three weeks after the contact).
Anyhow you can make what you want of this info. If the guy had sounded less dismissive, without insisting that G can`t be transmitted by oral sex, and told me that he had her tested and was a little more convincing about how they can have such a definitive result so fast, maybe I would believe it. However this is where I`m having to take this with a whole boatload of salt.
Is anyone else familiar with this notion that G can`t be transmitted by oral sex? I can tell you I`ve done a lot of reading over the last week and the only person who told me this was this agency dude. I can assure you - I did two girls, and covered FS. Now I have what can pretty confidently be pronounced as G, although as I`ve said I`m still waiting for the cultures (it`s easy to see when you have it, much harder to know you don`t have it).
It was never my intent to pursue this until it got nasty, so I`m not going to push any further where the agency is concerned. However this is certainly a wake-up call for me...
Also let me reiterate that the agency of the first girl I saw seems to be taking it more seriously (I don`t know exactly what they have done or will do, just that they expressed a lot more interest and concern).
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I called the guy at the second agency again tonight, and made sure that the message had gotten through.
He claimed that the girl got checked out on Monday, and that she had ``absolutely nothing``. Also this guy just kept insisting that it is impossible to get G from oral sex, which contradicts pretty much everything I`ve been able to find in sources ranging from Wikipedia to the CDC. Claims he works with a doctor who specializes in STI`s and this guy tells him that G can only be transmitted by unprotected vaginal sex.
I also pointed out that many women are asymptomatic carriers, and it`s not clear that anyone can give the all clear until swab and blood cultures come back, which might take a day if you have direct access to a testing lab (I haven`t heard my own results after more than a week).
I was sitting in front of my computer during the call, and read the passages on Wikipedia (same as other more reliable sources) about asymptomatic carriers and transmission by oral sex to him over the phone, but he just wouldn`t budge. ``Been doing this for X years and no client ever caught anything, etc.`` Kept suggesting I should Google about Gonorrhea and I`ll see it can`t be spread by oral sex.
I tried to make it clear that, even if I didn`t get it from her, I did CIM and she should really be given proper prophylactic treatment and diagnostic tests, but he just basically blew me off.
So maybe, just maybe he had her examined by their doc first thing Monday morning and he took blood and tissue cultures and was able to pull strings to get the results the next day. And maybe these tests showed she was clean (although at l`Actuel they made it very clear that some tests are pointless unless administered more than three weeks after the contact).
Anyhow you can make what you want of this info. If the guy had sounded less dismissive, without insisting that G can`t be transmitted by oral sex, and told me that he had her tested and was a little more convincing about how they can have such a definitive result so fast, maybe I would believe it. However this is where I`m having to take this with a whole boatload of salt.
Is anyone else familiar with this notion that G can`t be transmitted by oral sex? I can tell you I`ve done a lot of reading over the last week and the only person who told me this was this agency dude. I can assure you - I did two girls, and covered FS. Now I have what can pretty confidently be pronounced as G, although as I`ve said I`m still waiting for the cultures (it`s easy to see when you have it, much harder to know you don`t have it).
It was never my intent to pursue this until it got nasty, so I`m not going to push any further where the agency is concerned. However this is certainly a wake-up call for me...
Also let me reiterate that the agency of the first girl I saw seems to be taking it more seriously (I don`t know exactly what they have done or will do, just that they expressed a lot more interest and concern).
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Ok. Enough with the semantics, how about giving the name of the agency / booker you spoke with who was so dismissive of your plight?
Hello SK,
No names also includes the agency or booker being identified. Doing so without naming the SP involved would put suspicion on all the agency's girls. This is not acceptable.
M8
No names also includes the agency or booker being identified. Doing so without naming the SP involved would put suspicion on all the agency's girls. This is not acceptable.
M8
rules...
so help me understand...
a) this board is designed for sharing info correct? positive experiences are more readily acceptable than negative experiences?
b) if I have a great time with a lady, i can share the experience and her details so that others may also benefit from her services?
c) if I catch a sexually transmitted disease from an SP, I cannot share the info for public safety reasons, thus allowing other members to be exposed even after I know about it?
d) even if I follow the logic of contacting the agency and the SP, it doesn't guaruntee that she will cease all activities immediately, does it?
Bottom line - not sharing the info is simply negligent from a public health stand point.
Regardless of how you rationalize the enforcement of the rules of the board...
in this case it seems that the potential damage from a so called rumor out weighs the public safety concerns of board members and lurkers?
so help me understand...
a) this board is designed for sharing info correct? positive experiences are more readily acceptable than negative experiences?
b) if I have a great time with a lady, i can share the experience and her details so that others may also benefit from her services?
c) if I catch a sexually transmitted disease from an SP, I cannot share the info for public safety reasons, thus allowing other members to be exposed even after I know about it?
d) even if I follow the logic of contacting the agency and the SP, it doesn't guaruntee that she will cease all activities immediately, does it?
Bottom line - not sharing the info is simply negligent from a public health stand point.
Regardless of how you rationalize the enforcement of the rules of the board...
in this case it seems that the potential damage from a so called rumor out weighs the public safety concerns of board members and lurkers?
Yeah, so what? If an agency owner doesn't give a shit about the SP's (and their health) that work for him then maybe that's the type of info I need to know when I book a girl, don't you think?
Mods,
I've changed my mind, and seen the light!!
I think Erase (assuming his story is true) should identify both girls/agencies even though he has no way to know which of the girls gave him the STD. This should be done immediately and with the sanction of the MERB Mods, Admin & community.
Also, given this new era of posting any information necessary to protect the health of the community, the agencies MUST post the names & handles of all clients that saw these ladies. I would think those who saw them during the week prior to Erase's encounter, and since then, would be satisfactory. That would allow them to get checked themselves, and also those members could then post the names of the ladies they have all been with since then, so those ladies could be checked... oh, wait, then those ladies would need to tell us the guys they have been with, etc, etc, etc.
Of course, this is all due to an as-yet-unverified, unsubstantiated, although sincere allegation, but the overriding health & safety of the community must be protected.
I'm not out to protect the guilty, I would just prefer to wait before others gather 'round the hangin' tree...
The Mods have offered to help, but Erase has chosen not to take them up on it. Why not?
What info? Hearsay, innuendo, rumors? Nothing has been verified, by anyone. Once the story has been confirmed, I will be the first to say "POST IT"
Until then...
Voyager
I see only one good solution: CBJ. (Like this will become the norm??? Wishful thinking!)
Either that or quit hobbying (like that will ever happen!)
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
Either that or quit hobbying (like that will ever happen!)
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
Valid point... Ahhhh... the voice of reason... I wish I wasn't so dam impulsive sometimes.
But once that's done (if eraser ever chosses to prove it's not all BS), then "POST IT" as you say.
Hello everyone,
This is starting to become more than a little tiring. The policy of MERB is clear and it has always been clear. We will not allow names to be posted without concrete proof. This policy will not change no matter how much you complain about it. Posting any such information without proof will open MERB to possible legal action and we are not about to allow that to happen.
If anyone has something useful to add to this discussion, please do so. But if the discussion continues to focus on publicly identifying the persons involved, it is not going to happen and this thread will be closed.
Mod 8
This is starting to become more than a little tiring. The policy of MERB is clear and it has always been clear. We will not allow names to be posted without concrete proof. This policy will not change no matter how much you complain about it. Posting any such information without proof will open MERB to possible legal action and we are not about to allow that to happen.
If anyone has something useful to add to this discussion, please do so. But if the discussion continues to focus on publicly identifying the persons involved, it is not going to happen and this thread will be closed.
Mod 8
Ok then why not just delete all responses to this thread, leave the original one and close the thread? That makes more sense than allowing the original poster to spout off on the dangers of and the lack of concern by the offending agency, which in my opinion, is this persons agenda, but, we know what they say about opinions.
SK
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Ok then why not just delete all responses to this thread, leave the original one and close the thread? That makes more sense than allowing the original poster to spout off on the dangers of and the lack of concern by the offending agency, which in my opinion, is this persons agenda, but, we know what they say about opinions.
SK
This is indeed my agenda - this is the health forum, after all. It was not a pleasant experience that continues to be stressful, and for whatever reason this has been my way of dealing with it. However I also think that this has been beaten just about to death.
Take the info I posted however you want to, and with the skepticism due anything you read on the internet.
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This board appears to be designed for its admins not to get sued and to not unduly rattle its advertisers, otherwise freeloading chumps like us, wouldn't be able to access it for free.
Lots has happened since this site has been up. Most of it going in the sense of less information, more precautions taken against producing defamatory statements or invading the privacy of those who don't wish to be written about.
Public health? Yeah, right. Doesn't look like a major concern to many users here otherwise, I suspect they'd be pursuing another "hobby".
Hello Jack,
I would like to remind you that it is the moderators that run this board, no one else. In case you have not noticed, we have banned advertisers before and we have in the past allowed the disclosure of a provider's name when we had valid proof. We have no fear of rattling anyone's cage. We will not however allow the posting of unsubstantiated statements or rumors about anyone, advertiser or not, member or not. We also do not allow any provider to post allegations against any client without proof.
Would you prefer a board that allows any and all allegations to be posted about anyone with no proof ever required?
If anyone has any further points to make, you have until 10 PM tonight. At that time this thread will be closed and will only be re-opened in the case of new information pertinent to the thread topic being received.
Mod 8
I would like to remind you that it is the moderators that run this board, no one else. In case you have not noticed, we have banned advertisers before and we have in the past allowed the disclosure of a provider's name when we had valid proof. We have no fear of rattling anyone's cage. We will not however allow the posting of unsubstantiated statements or rumors about anyone, advertiser or not, member or not. We also do not allow any provider to post allegations against any client without proof.
Would you prefer a board that allows any and all allegations to be posted about anyone with no proof ever required?
If anyone has any further points to make, you have until 10 PM tonight. At that time this thread will be closed and will only be re-opened in the case of new information pertinent to the thread topic being received.
Mod 8
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Closing the thread tonight is fine by me - thanks to all who participated and hope you don't get this.
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Hello Mod 8, just being facetious. I fully appreciate the outcome of writing something that is unsubstantiated. I thought referring to us as "chumps" would have provided enough of a hint that I was being sarcastic.
Back to the thread's topic, it seems obvious that the thread starter will not get any more mileage out of this thread, in terms of where he initially wanted to go with this.
It's rather unfortunate cause there is something important at stake, namely attempting to stifle the propagation of disease from the 2 providers that Erase has written about. I think he's made his points quite convincingly.
On the plus side, we've given him several options that could help him nonetheless curb the mentality of those salons who are pretending there is nothing to worry about. If it's happened to Erase, anyone of us could be next. I just hope Erase takes it to the next level. I am certain that he should be able to do something without necessarily compromising his identity. In the end, the health authorities or whichever other intervenant is called into this, is more concerned about propagation than they are about Erase's identity. At least, Erase is taking care of himself. Those girls who infected him? Not so sure.
And yeah, I choose to believe Erase. Unless someone else can suggest a government body or independent outfit who can effectively intervene without compromising Erase's identity, I think we've pretty much tackled the main issues.
Back to the thread's topic, it seems obvious that the thread starter will not get any more mileage out of this thread, in terms of where he initially wanted to go with this.
It's rather unfortunate cause there is something important at stake, namely attempting to stifle the propagation of disease from the 2 providers that Erase has written about. I think he's made his points quite convincingly.
On the plus side, we've given him several options that could help him nonetheless curb the mentality of those salons who are pretending there is nothing to worry about. If it's happened to Erase, anyone of us could be next. I just hope Erase takes it to the next level. I am certain that he should be able to do something without necessarily compromising his identity. In the end, the health authorities or whichever other intervenant is called into this, is more concerned about propagation than they are about Erase's identity. At least, Erase is taking care of himself. Those girls who infected him? Not so sure.
And yeah, I choose to believe Erase. Unless someone else can suggest a government body or independent outfit who can effectively intervene without compromising Erase's identity, I think we've pretty much tackled the main issues.
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