I think this is a fair point.
It may not be a wake up call for everyone, but at least, those who were uncertain about the risks they were taking, may have cause to reconsider. It's definitely a step in the right direction.
I think this is a fair point.
It may not be a wake up call for everyone, but at least, those who were uncertain about the risks they were taking, may have cause to reconsider. It's definitely a step in the right direction.
In the news they always share info even if the law says you are innoncent until proven guilty.They just say "the presumed suspect" or something like that. I mean sure they are not guilty whitout any proof, but like some said i do think the name of the agency at the very least should be divulged. Of course the booker will say he dosen't care if he is protected here... i mean cmon...
If somebody tell me there is a grocery in the province with contaminated meat, but dosen't tell me wich one, i will not stop eating meat because of that since i am a big meat eater and hate vegetables... But i would really apreciate he tell me wich store.
Same goes here, members won't stop hobbying and booker/agencies know it, but if there name are divulged, it will hurt there business therefore they be more willing to update us on the status on the particular girl and remove her from the listing. I think its common sense and altought i understand a moderator job since i did it many years on different website, i do find weird there decision on that.
If somebody tell me there is a grocery in the province with contaminated meat, but dosen't tell me wich one, i will not stop eating meat because of that since i am a big meat eater and hate vegetables... But i would really apreciate he tell me wich store.
Same goes here, members won't stop hobbying and booker/agencies know it, but if there name are divulged, it will hurt there business therefore they be more willing to update us on the status on the particular girl and remove her from the listing. I think its common sense and altought i understand a moderator job since i did it many years on different website, i do find weird there decision on that.
good luck verifying anything on a board where everyone has an alias and SPs have a vested interest in making money...
time to close this thread...
time to close this thread...
I'm sure that explaining libel, slander, etc as it relates to Newspapers, TV & Radio reports would fall on deaf ears...
OK, how about if someone were to post that Halloween Mike has an STD, and that every agency, Indy and MP should refuse you service? Although there isn't any proof, they would be protecting the health & safety of the community! You'd support that, right?
Next time, stay on the bus until you get to TO....
Sheesh,
Voyager
I think it's a fair point.
On a site where everyone has the priviledge of remaining anonymous, you're going to get accountability issues, every time someone brings up a disturbing incident like the one exposed in this thread.
The Mods' hands are tied, as they can't allow the posting of information that becomes potentially libelous if it can't be directly or authoritatively verified. So, we're left to ourselves in terms of how we choose to process any given message.
A dose of healthy skepticism is always in order, whether on this thread or any other offering on this site.
And since we've come full circle on this, I can't wait for this thread to be shut down.
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Follow up
Just a followup, almost a month after my symptoms showed up. It's been a bumpy ride.
As described in my initial post, three days after my initial (and tentative) diagnosis with G, I was prescribed a single large dose (2 g) of the antibiotic azithromycin, which was supposed to clear up all symptoms in 48 hours. Two weeks later, I still had some pain and discharge so I went back to the clinic.
I was rather shocked when I was told that all my tests had come back negative! I had been tested for gonorrhoea, chlamydia, herpes, and syphilis - all negative (BUT see below). This was pretty confusing, as I had very painful, messy symptoms that the first doc thought were pretty definitely G.
On this second visit, I was seen by a different doctor. He repeated the swab test and went much deeper (ouch!) This time, he said he'd have them look under a microscope in the in-house lab at the clinic. The lab confirmed that they definitely DID see gonorrhoea in the sample, so the first test was a false negative. I did notice that the first time, the doc didn't stick the swab in very far. However I had so much discharge at the time that it was possible to get lots of material just from the opening. Apparently this can give a false negative result as they really have to get the swab in there (if done correctly, it should hurt).
Since I was now apparently confirmed as having G, and since it didn't seem to be responding to the first antibiotic (there was improvement, but nowhere near complete recovery) he prescribed another single-dose treatment of a different antibiotic - ciprofloxacin (500 mg).
It's now been almost a week after taking the cipro (and almost a month after getting infected), and I still have some discharge and pain, after two courses of antibiotics. In my reading on G, I've frequently come across the statement that, in the US, the only treatment currently recommended by the CDC is treatment using a third generation cephalosporin antibiotic such as Suprax or other injectable equivalents. Some doctors may be reluctant to prescribe the 3rd gen cephalosporin if you are allergic to penicillin, but apparently it is now considered safe (obviously you should tell your doc about any allergies, and discuss this option with him or her - health info on the web to be taken with big grain of salt).
This is apparently due to the fact that cipro and azithromycin are now ineffective against strains of G found in many parts of the world, including parts of North America. My second swab sample is supposed to get cultured, so they can see what antibiotics might be effective. The thing is, they schedule followup appointments in a month, so I won't find out fast.
Anyhow, I just wanted to post a followup with these really painful lessons:
Stay safe,
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Just a followup, almost a month after my symptoms showed up. It's been a bumpy ride.
As described in my initial post, three days after my initial (and tentative) diagnosis with G, I was prescribed a single large dose (2 g) of the antibiotic azithromycin, which was supposed to clear up all symptoms in 48 hours. Two weeks later, I still had some pain and discharge so I went back to the clinic.
I was rather shocked when I was told that all my tests had come back negative! I had been tested for gonorrhoea, chlamydia, herpes, and syphilis - all negative (BUT see below). This was pretty confusing, as I had very painful, messy symptoms that the first doc thought were pretty definitely G.
On this second visit, I was seen by a different doctor. He repeated the swab test and went much deeper (ouch!) This time, he said he'd have them look under a microscope in the in-house lab at the clinic. The lab confirmed that they definitely DID see gonorrhoea in the sample, so the first test was a false negative. I did notice that the first time, the doc didn't stick the swab in very far. However I had so much discharge at the time that it was possible to get lots of material just from the opening. Apparently this can give a false negative result as they really have to get the swab in there (if done correctly, it should hurt).
Since I was now apparently confirmed as having G, and since it didn't seem to be responding to the first antibiotic (there was improvement, but nowhere near complete recovery) he prescribed another single-dose treatment of a different antibiotic - ciprofloxacin (500 mg).
It's now been almost a week after taking the cipro (and almost a month after getting infected), and I still have some discharge and pain, after two courses of antibiotics. In my reading on G, I've frequently come across the statement that, in the US, the only treatment currently recommended by the CDC is treatment using a third generation cephalosporin antibiotic such as Suprax or other injectable equivalents. Some doctors may be reluctant to prescribe the 3rd gen cephalosporin if you are allergic to penicillin, but apparently it is now considered safe (obviously you should tell your doc about any allergies, and discuss this option with him or her - health info on the web to be taken with big grain of salt).
This is apparently due to the fact that cipro and azithromycin are now ineffective against strains of G found in many parts of the world, including parts of North America. My second swab sample is supposed to get cultured, so they can see what antibiotics might be effective. The thing is, they schedule followup appointments in a month, so I won't find out fast.
Anyhow, I just wanted to post a followup with these really painful lessons:
- A test for gonorrhoea can give a false negative result (apparently the pee test is best)
- Everyone says that G can be easily treated with antibiotics, but it might not always be so easy.
Stay safe,
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Sorry K, but I think someone might find this info helpful. I am finding out that gonorrhoea can be tricky to diagnose, and difficult to treat due to increasing antibiotic resistance. I wish I had known before that this sh*t is really no joke -
First, I want to say that I found this thread very informative.
Second, is this for real? You're still in pain and the next appointment is in a month? How is this acceptable? What about going to a different clinic to get that 3rd-gen antibiotic right now? Even if I had to go to a private clinic or an emergency room, it seems like it would be worth it.
As for the reportable disease thread: Aren't there anonymous clinics in Montreal? I seem to remember one being near the Guy metro station.
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Glad you found this info useful. That is some small solace in a very sorry affair.
Actually, I was going to call the clinic to schedule another appointment since the second antibiotic does not seem to be working. However they beat me to it - they called me the other day asking me to come in this week (kind of scary, since I also had an HIV test). I am guessing they may have cultured my bacterial sample and found it to be cipro-resistant (the colony in my urethra certainly seems to be laughing at the cipro). Hopefully we'll try the suprax next.
Keep in mind that the one-month followup was scheduled right after they prescribed the second antibiotic, probably expecting that would clear it up. I am very nervous though about why they called me in much sooner.
One scary possibility is "disseminated gonococcal infection", which has to be treated with IV antibiotics as an in-patient in the hospital (try explaining that to the wife). I think it might be time to stop reading.
I think the clinic I went to was one of the anonymous ones - I'm not sure how the anonymity works. I am going to ask when I go back this week... I was thinking of calling the Dept. of Public Health, but felt kind of stupid.
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I too read your posts and am very happy you posted this info.
Your posts certainly have me rethinking and may also cause me to re-evaluate my hobbying choices (eg: fewer agency girls, focus on indys, esp ones I actually believe see fewer clients).
One thing that does surprise me is that I had what seemed to be a urinary tract infection earlier this summer and your post freaked me out a bit so I went to a clinic, they didn`t find anything (pee test) and the symptoms went away. I asked the Doctor there about G and she seemed very confident that it was nothing to worry about (I had also read about antibiotic resistant strains online). I guess maybe you are exceptionally unlucky but, if a new strain of G has hit our city then it can only spread. Certainly my readings suggest that G was pretty much beaten not long ago but this is changing. (Note that I am not a medical doctor).
Long time hobbyists who have a ``been there, done that, no problem`` should know that things change... G was once a big deal and may be so again.
Thanks and good luck!
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Hopefully final chapter
I went to the clinic this morning, after they called me to come back shortly after my second set of tests. I was pretty nervous, especially since the most recent tests included HIV (irrational, but hard not to be a bit worried). Fortunately the HIV and all the other stuff (herpes, syphillis, chlamydia) were all negative.
Turns out they confirmed it is indeed gonorrhea (don't know why my first test was negative) AND by testing different antibiotics on my bacterial cultures they found that it was indeed resistant to both of the antibiotics they'd initially prescribed. They hadn't initially given the CDC-recommended antibiotic due to some allergy concerns, but I showed them the articles I'd found (from credible medical journals - for example this one) and the doc agreed it was worth taking a chance with the intramuscular injection of 125 mg Ceftriaxone. I agreed to wait around in the clinic for a good chunk of time after the shot in case of a reaction, and the doc assured me that they had the materials on hand to treat a reaction just in case.
Turns out this IM injection hurts like hell, but that's normal for about 15 minutes and I had no reaction. I am hoping that this kills the little buggers (the bacteria) once and for all.
I guess I can say that I was treated at l'Actuel, and that they have been great (wish they'd given me the Ceftriaxone in the first place is all, but maybe it's just as well not to overuse this antibiotic).
Hope nobody else gets this (both SPs and clients),
e
I went to the clinic this morning, after they called me to come back shortly after my second set of tests. I was pretty nervous, especially since the most recent tests included HIV (irrational, but hard not to be a bit worried). Fortunately the HIV and all the other stuff (herpes, syphillis, chlamydia) were all negative.
Turns out they confirmed it is indeed gonorrhea (don't know why my first test was negative) AND by testing different antibiotics on my bacterial cultures they found that it was indeed resistant to both of the antibiotics they'd initially prescribed. They hadn't initially given the CDC-recommended antibiotic due to some allergy concerns, but I showed them the articles I'd found (from credible medical journals - for example this one) and the doc agreed it was worth taking a chance with the intramuscular injection of 125 mg Ceftriaxone. I agreed to wait around in the clinic for a good chunk of time after the shot in case of a reaction, and the doc assured me that they had the materials on hand to treat a reaction just in case.
Turns out this IM injection hurts like hell, but that's normal for about 15 minutes and I had no reaction. I am hoping that this kills the little buggers (the bacteria) once and for all.
I guess I can say that I was treated at l'Actuel, and that they have been great (wish they'd given me the Ceftriaxone in the first place is all, but maybe it's just as well not to overuse this antibiotic).
Hope nobody else gets this (both SPs and clients),
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Yeah baby!
Ok, Ceftriaxone is the sh*t (in the good way)! 24 hours later and already it seems like things are on the mend... finally!
So if you do catch this, make sure you ask that the clinic does a good (deep) swab and tests your cultures for antibiotic resistance. For good measure ask for the pee test too.
If I'd had the right antibiotic in the first place, this would have cleared up three weeks ago.
Special K will be happy if this is finally the end...
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Ok, Ceftriaxone is the sh*t (in the good way)! 24 hours later and already it seems like things are on the mend... finally!
So if you do catch this, make sure you ask that the clinic does a good (deep) swab and tests your cultures for antibiotic resistance. For good measure ask for the pee test too.
If I'd had the right antibiotic in the first place, this would have cleared up three weeks ago.
Special K will be happy if this is finally the end...
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I just want some info from you Erase just in case(we are never too carefull)
1) When you say burning sensation, its like a lot, very painfull or just an annoying sensation. Because for exemple one time i was worried i may had something in the head, i had pain in the back of my head for a week or so, but that wasen't very painfull, more annoying than anything. Turn out it was just because i was watching tv in a wrong position and that was the neck/back of head muscle who where hurt. Lot of worry for nothing, i stoped doing that and it faded away.
2) Pue, lot of it or was it just a little bit?
3) Again when urinating, really painfull?
4) As for blood, lots of or just a little bit, for exemple if you take a kleenex, it really become red like when you pierce a pimple?
Im asking all of this of curiosity and in case if sometimes i would catch something.
1) When you say burning sensation, its like a lot, very painfull or just an annoying sensation. Because for exemple one time i was worried i may had something in the head, i had pain in the back of my head for a week or so, but that wasen't very painfull, more annoying than anything. Turn out it was just because i was watching tv in a wrong position and that was the neck/back of head muscle who where hurt. Lot of worry for nothing, i stoped doing that and it faded away.
2) Pue, lot of it or was it just a little bit?
3) Again when urinating, really painfull?
4) As for blood, lots of or just a little bit, for exemple if you take a kleenex, it really become red like when you pierce a pimple?
Im asking all of this of curiosity and in case if sometimes i would catch something.
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No problem:
I've had mild burning sensations in the past, but this time it was way worse. It was hard to walk and act normally due to the pain. The irritation of my urethral lining got so bad that there was a certain amount of blood, resulting in blood and pus stains on the front of my underwear.
Quite a lot - just taking my dick out of my pants, I'd typically see a big glob of white pus at the tip. As mentioned above, the front of my underwear were quite stained.
Really painful. Also, spontaneous nighttime erections were very, very painful - presumably due to stretching of the urethra. Ironically I didn't have sex or jerk off for a while, so the nighttime erections became more and more of a problem. About a week after my first (only partially effective) antibiotic, I broke down and very carefully masturbated - it was a painful, but relieving experience.
The pimple analogy is good - about three days after starting symptoms (was travelling so did not treat right away) the pus got to be bloody. Enough to leave clearly visible blood stains on my undies.
Hope you don't, but that this helps. It seems like there is something else a lot of us might have had that causes minor burning - I used to thing maybe a latex allergy? Don't worry - if you get what I had there will be no mistaking it. You will have no choice but to go for treatment. Just hope your wife doesn't get it...
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lol are you for real ??? just say you will not do it period, dont take us for dumb asses by putting such a condition
imagine the police having a similar policy , only if the criminal leaves a signed and notarized letter at the crime scene that we would move ahead and arrest him
on the other hand making it 100% public is like the sex offenders registry in the states it fucks up people
however PM is not public , it will not show in the search or google
other wise you are simply a toy in the agency hand, how do we actually know for a fact that MERB didnt fall in an agency operator hands already, it would be very smart move to buy MERB if i was an agency owner,
or if i was an organized operation outfit ..
Mod 8 is for real, no worries.
You need to understand criminal faces the Criminal Justice System, they face the Law, not some anonymous MERB Mods. Big difference. Police have investigative powers and resources MERB Mods don't have.
MERB aslo face the Law. The Law prohibit the publication of false information on a person and put the challenge of proving what's published on the publisher. MERB can be seen as a publisher. If MERB allow members to post unfounded accusations, MERB can face legal actions. It have nothing to do with protecting the advertisers an the same rules would apply if the accusation was made against a Craiglist provider or a streetwalker.
I think it is pretty simple.
You need to understand criminal faces the Criminal Justice System, they face the Law, not some anonymous MERB Mods. Big difference. Police have investigative powers and resources MERB Mods don't have.
MERB aslo face the Law. The Law prohibit the publication of false information on a person and put the challenge of proving what's published on the publisher. MERB can be seen as a publisher. If MERB allow members to post unfounded accusations, MERB can face legal actions. It have nothing to do with protecting the advertisers an the same rules would apply if the accusation was made against a Craiglist provider or a streetwalker.
I think it is pretty simple.
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