I wanna go to GERMANY...lots of FS clubs ..LEGAL..

[azzaro]

For planning purposes, here is my map of the most famous FKKs and a few brothels. These are the clubs you should consider visiting first.

Famous FKKs Map

You don't need a car to visit Artemis in Berlin or Palace or Mainhatten in Frankfurt. You can reach some other clubs like Oase, Sharks and Samya by public transport but getting to those places is a bit more of a challenge. It's easier if you have a car.

So before you plan a trip to Germany you need to decide whether you will rent a car or not. Germany is a great country for driving but finding your way to the clubs outside the city centers can be challenging. Most are often the beaten path, but worth it once you get there. If you rent a car, I would advise bringing a GPS with Europe maps preloaded.

Thanks Capt Renault and Rumpleforeskin.

The FKK club price admissions include the beer, buffet AND a 30 minute session..right?. What if you wanted to hump again after a couple of hours?. Pay extra for that ..another fee ?. I have not decided whether its going to be Berlin or Frankfurt is where I will be be heading first (I only have a week to party there). Might go check out Berlin first and ARTEMIS and then take the eurail or MegaBus to Frankfurt for a couple of days. Thanks for the valuable info!. I think I will be happy to check out 2 clubs in Frankfurt reachable easily by public transport. Cheers!

 

[hobbymaster]

Admissions does not included a 30 minute session. Guys and girls pay the fee. The girls are independent contractors working to recoup the fee.

 

[hobbymaster]

Near the Frankfurt train station are many walk up buildings that you can run through to get quickies.

 

[hobbymaster]

Besides the girls, I enjoy speeding on the autobahn.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

The FKK club price admissions include the beer, buffet AND a 30 minute session..right?. What if you wanted to hump again after a couple of hours?. Pay extra for that ..another fee ?. I have not decided whether its going to be Berlin or Frankfurt is where I will be be heading first (I only have a week to party there). Might go check out Berlin first and ARTEMIS and then take the eurail or MegaBus to Frankfurt for a couple of days. Thanks for the valuable info!. I think I will be happy to check out 2 clubs in Frankfurt reachable easily by public transport. Cheers!

As hobbymaster points out, the admission fee includes use of the club and food, including soft drinks. You do pay for each 30 minute session, €50 (currently $55 US or 70$ CDN) in the Frankfurt/NRW clubs. Anal and CIM run and additional €50). It used to be that additional 30 minutes cost €25 in the NRW clubs; I'm not sure if this is still true. Artemis costs more, €80 to get in, €60 for a 30 minute session.

As for the Frankfurt clubs, common belief is that girls are better looking and the service is worse at Palace. This was certainly true the one time I was there 8 years ago.

 

[azzaro]

Near the Frankfurt train station are many walk up buildings that you can run through to get quickies.

Thanks hobbymaster and rumpleforeskin. Excellent. So these are no-frills places near the train station?. Smaller ones with less than 5 girls working?. How do I find these places?. In a local newspaper?. Around a 75-100 Euro for 30 mins?. Free to look at the girls to select?. In ARTEMIS and WORLD clubs the entrance is 45 to 65 Euro (depending on the time of the day). That's great for the atmosphere, food, a drink etc. So I did figure correctly from my initial research that $ CDN 150 should cover the entrance, food, a drink a 30 minute session. Somebody mentioned they spent 12 hours there one day at ARTEMIS or WORLD. Wow, must be a heck of a place. Can't wait for the experience!.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Entrance to Artemis is €80, the others €60. Time of day changes nothing at the major clubs, though some of the smaller ones, such as Finca, do have varying discounts based on time of day, day of week. Yes, 150$ CDN should get you all you mention, but the whole reason for going to the clubs is to have multiple sessions. I'll usually have 3-4 with different girls over the course of 8-12 hours there.

What to do in all that time. Hang with other guys, look at the girls, talk to them, sauna, maybe get a massage (pay for that), sit around the pool or jacuzzi. World has a great outdoor space in the summer time, as does Oase.

 

[azzaro]

The Lisbon brothels are very inexpensive by worldwide standards. 60 Euros for a half-hour and 100 Euros for a full hour. No upsells. If she does CIM, she does CIM. If she does anal, she does anal. The customer can come as many times as he can in the allotted time. I hate upsells, and "extra cum" charges. My understanding is that the chicks at Artemis in Berlin charge 100 Euros more for anal. WTF?

The best brothel in Lisbon is Michelle's in my opinion. New Center is okay, but I do not like it as well as Michelle's. The addresses are on internationalsexguide.info.

The girls at those brothels are 6-7s (with an occasional 8) by my standards. I prefer an escort service in Lisbon that charges 150 a Euros per hour. It is called www.escortprivada.com and the three girls I have seen have been an 8, a 9, and a 10. All were three-hole players with CIM and had great attitudes. Sara and Alexandra are both highly recommended, especially Sara.

The Spain bordellos and full service clubs are great, but a little more expensive than Portugal. Usually 25-50 percent more expensive than Portugal, with upsells being more common. A typical Spanish brothel has a higher overall ratings in terms of the average girl's looks than in Portugal, and the Spain hotels are more expensive. But Spain has more independent escorts than Portugal, and many of those Spanish independents are in the 120-150 Euro per hour range.

I loved both countries and alternate my visits between them.

Hi Patron. I cannot find Michelle's or info on other nice incall places in Lisbon on the internationalsexguide site. Thinking about spending a couple of days in Lisbon (besides Germany) as well.

 

[azzaro]

Entrance to Artemis is €80, the others €60. Time of day changes nothing at the major clubs, though some of the smaller ones, such as Finca, do have varying discounts based on time of day, day of week. Yes, 150$ CDN should get you all you mention, but the whole reason for going to the clubs is to have multiple sessions. I'll usually have 3-4 with different girls over the course of 8-12 hours there.

What to do in all that time. Hang with other guys, look at the girls, talk to them, sauna, maybe get a massage (pay for that), sit around the pool or jacuzzi. World has a great outdoor space in the summer time, as does Oase.

Thanks rumpleforeskin. Yeah, hanging out is so cool about these places in beautiful surroundings with hotties and good food. I found the exact way to get to WORLD easily by public transport (30-45 mins) from Frankfurt main train station. So that is definitely a GO for me. PLUS, gotta visit ARTEMIS for sure, since it is the only and main FKK in Berlin. It must attract a lotta hotties. Website is cool too.

 

[azzaro]

Michelle's http://www.michelleeassistentes.com
Av Migual Bombarda 1, 3rd Floor.

New Center www.eroticmassagecenter.com (Edit: the website is down at the moment, but all the brothels are just show up and choose places, so the website is of limited use, anyway)
Av Marques de Tomar 33, 5th Floor

New Center building has an elevator from the 1950s. You have to manually slide the door to get it to work. And push it out to exit upon arriving. Or you can just take the stairs.

New Center has a sign by their door. Michelle's takes up the entire third floor.

Another popular one I have never been to is Jardim do Eden
Av Joao XXI 43, 3rd Floor.

I liked the girl (Patricia) I saw at Michelle's better than either of the girls I saw at New Center. But they were all okay. I thought the overall lineup I saw at New Center had more acceptables, actually.

Even though it costs more, 150 Euros per hour for outcall, no taxi charge for Lisbon (but a minor taxi charge if you stay way out in Sintra, Cascais or Estoril), my favorite service is www.escortprivada.com. I mention this because I love the countryside of that part of Portugal. Just a short distance from Lisbon, but giant forests, castles, and rustic beaches with plenty of hiking and biking trails. I would love to explore the French and Italian villas, but the commercial sex scene is pathetic in rural France and Italy, so Portugal is a great compromise.

The girls from escortprivada were much hotter than the ones at the brothels, and honestly equalled or surpassed the great experiences I have in Montreal. Sara and Alexandra are both hot. I had better chemistry with Sara, perhaps because I have seen her twice, but Alexandra is a true knockout. I like that they are both three-hole players that do CIM.

Thanks. I researched a bit more and found the website for the Jardin do Eden ==>

http://www.jardim-do-eden.com/Site/?page_id=2450

And another one...

http://www.sousexy.pt/

PLUS a list of other hotties in other cities in Portugal..

http://portugalmassage.com/sensual-masseuses/

 

[jadexoxo]

A small note to take as you please:
With all the jt and vip parties happening in montreal these days it is very possible to meet the ladies before booking in a somewhat similar environment. However i strongly believe any excuse to travel is a good one! if you do go please post about your escapades! I would be so curious.

 

[azzaro]

A small note to take as you please:
With all the jt and vip parties happening in montreal these days it is very possible to meet the ladies before booking in a somewhat similar environment. However i strongly believe any excuse to travel is a good one! if you do go please post about your escapades! I would be so curious.

Please explain what you mean. JT?..VIP parties?....where?...how does an average joe get to hump hotties in Montreal?. I am certainly no VIP with thousands to spend. I am a 120Half-hour/180Full-hour guy and so are most of the readers of this forum. Less than 1% of this forum readers would pay in excess of the rates above.

 

[CaptRenault]

A small note to take as you please:
With all the jt and vip parties happening in montreal these days it is very possible to meet the ladies before booking in a somewhat similar environment.

The Montreal parties are very nice in their own way. However I would not compare them to the experience of an FKK. It's like the difference between a high school dance and an all-night rave.

if you do go please post about your escapades! I would be so curious.

We have posted about our escapades. There are also many more reports on a forum commonly referred to as ISG.

 

[Smooth_Operator]

Thanks CaptRenault for your information !

Yes, all of them speak enough English to communicate at a basic level, at least. Many speak English very well (the German girls, for example). It's easy to find girls who speak English at whatever level you're comfortable with. In any case, you're not going to be discussing philosophy with the girls.

The one language none of them speak is French (apart from the occasional francophone girl). I sometimes pretend to speak only French at first--a tactic that I use to get rid of girls that I don't want to talk to. They get flustered when they think they can't deliver their well-rehearsed sales pitches in German or English and they walk away. You got to have some tactic to deal with the sharks.

 

[jadexoxo]

Lol I clearly did not fully understand what these were! Looking into them now. Thanks for the education

 

[paul_turner]

Quick perspective for anyone looking to compare the FKK experience with the Montreal scene.

This is from my admittedly limited experience (I have only been to FKK Mainhattan twice).

On both occasions, I ended up with 2 sessions. All four sessions were average at best, nothing particulary negative to speak off but you do get the feeling of being on the assembly line. The ladies put a lot more effort into getting you hooked than actually providing services after being selected.

The experience itself is unique and I would recommend that every hobbyist enjoy it at least once but overall it does not stack up to the quality in Montreal (for me anyway).

Regards,
Paul

 

[syrius]

Hello guys,

Il you want to find information about fkk, go to youppie.net (it's only in French). This forum will give you all the information you need, it looks like merb but for French people in France and Europe.

Enjoy

Www.youppie.net

 

[CaptRenault]

Quick perspective for anyone looking to compare the FKK experience with the Montreal scene...The experience itself is unique and I would recommend that every hobbyist enjoy it at least once but overall it does not stack up to the quality in Montreal (for me anyway).

I agree that, if you're not careful, you can get bad service from some of the girls in FKKs. You can't pick girls who appeal to you just based on their looks. You have to take your time and screen them carefully. Eliminate the ones who mention going to a room within a minute or two of meeting them. Be wary of the ones who don't seem genuinely friendly and seductive. Don't go with a girl the first time you talk to her. If you like her, make a mental note of her and then talk to her again in a little while and see whether she still gives you a good vibe. When you are seriously considering taking a girl to a room (or in my case, the kino or a treehouse :nod: ), discuss your expectations with her. Let her know what your expectations are and evaluate her reaction.

I also think that once you pick a girl these days, you should consider taking her for one hour rather than 30 minutes. The standard fee for 30 minutes (50 or 60 Euros) has stayed the same for a long time and many girls feel that it's no longer a fair price. They will try to earn more by pressuring you to take extras. But if a girl knows that you intend to spend an hour with her and she'll earn 100 Euros, she will be happier and perform better. I don't consider 100 Euros ($110 or $120) to be too much to spend on these eurobabes. After all we typically pay $200/hour to girls in Montreal. When they perform well, the FKK girls are just as good. But you have to make an effort to get them to give their best performance. If you don't, then the FKK experience can be a letdown when compared to Montreal. I have a fair amount of experience in both Montreal and FKKland and I like both experiences. They are different but both great in their own ways.

 

[azzaro]

I agree that, if you're not careful, you can get bad service from some of the girls in FKKs. You can't pick girls who appeal to you just based on their looks. You have to take your time and screen them carefully. Eliminate the ones who mention going to a room within a minute or two of meeting them. Be wary of the ones who don't seem genuinely friendly and seductive. Don't go with a girl the first time you talk to her. If you like her, make a mental note of her and then talk to her again in a little while and see whether she still gives you a good vibe. When you are seriously considering taking a girl to a room (or in my case, the kino or a treehouse :nod: ), discuss your expectations with her. Let her know what your expectations are and evaluate her reaction.

I also think that once you pick a girl these days, you should consider taking her for one hour rather than 30 minutes. The standard fee for 30 minutes (50 or 60 Euros) has stayed the same for a long time and many girls feel that it's no longer a fair price. They will try to earn more by pressuring you to take extras. But if a girl knows that you intend to spend an hour with her and she'll earn 100 Euros, she will be happier and perform better. I don't consider 100 Euros ($110 or $120) to be too much to spend on these eurobabes. After all we typically pay $200/hour to girls in Montreal. When they perform well, the FKK girls are just as good. But you have to make an effort to get them to give their best performance. If you don't, then the FKK experience can be a letdown when compared to Montreal. I have a fair amount of experience in both Montreal and FKKland and I like both experiences. They are different but both great in their own ways.

Yeah, the main difference is being able to ENJOY the company of dozens of beautiful sexy girls in various sexy outfits AND roam around the various clubs in their beautiful surroundings and the various theme rooms and EAT as much as you want when you get hungry, take a nap if you want and then pick a hottie from a wide selection. THAT is the reason a $150 goes a long way and a lot more fun can be had for an ordinary guy like me. I have spent various $100-$150 on Montreal escorts for 30-45 mins of service and it was OVER in..YES...30 mins. Out of 50 or so girls, I only enjoyed myself totally with less than 10 girls (in my 10 years of experience in MONTREAL). ..and THAT is the reason I wanna GO ..to...GERMANY..to check out the FKK experience. You have to be careful everywhere. I do NOT like aggressive and pushy money-hungry girls since I am not a bad looking guy and deserve a level of hotness and sensuality in girls for me to HUMP them. AN FKK is featured in a video by MASSIVE ATTACK (Angel; There are various videos made for that song).

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Boy, there is so much wrong in the preceding post, I don't know where to begin. Just a couple of points though.

1. You say that you spend between $100-$150 for a session in Montreal. That's clearly on the very bottom rung of the economic scale. By what measure you say you deserve a "level of hotness and sensuality" is beyond me. First, you get what you pay for. Second, you pay for a minimum level of service. Anything you get beyond that is your reward for kindness, charm, and reciprocity in the exchange of pleasure.

2. You say that you're batting .200 in Montreal, well below the Mendoza Line. If you've had 10 good sessions out of 50 in Montreal, I'd say you're likely to have 2 good sessions out of 50 in Germany where the filtering is considerably more difficult and takes a fair amount of experience to learn.