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ocean

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Dear folks, after the disastrous season we just had, people are forgetting too quickly about it . But the people in charge of the habs know this............... They know no matter how poor their performance you will :


-still buy sky high season/individual tickets
-still buy expensive beer , soda , pizza hot dogs at the Bell Center.
-still pay for 2 that's right 2! sports channels to watch the season.
-still buy hats, jerseys , jackets , flags etc.........

So for once in 24 years , please please please don't be suckers. Until they get the message, that fans need to be respected , and that only seems to happen when their pocketbooks are hurt, they need to be shut out.

Peace out.

Go Canada go at the WCH.
 

clemieux6

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Until the organization stops cherry's picking over French vs English this team will always suck. Subban should have been the captain of this team, although now it's gone to one of the most uninspiring captains ever. I feel bad for Carey, another year where most of your D men are going to get burnt.
 

ocean

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I agree with everything you said except for pk subban . This year habs would have had to pay 9 million for him . That's just over 10% of cap space . That and the fact he was a douche as I met him first hand- probably affected his decision as he had issues with teammates
 

Doc Holliday

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I feel bad for Carey, another year where most of your D men are going to get burnt.

It wouldn't surprise me if they traded Carey Price next season. He's only got two years left in his current deal and he's expecting a huge raise after the current one expires. He's no longer a spring chicken and he's got a bum knee. The games he's missed due to injury have increased year after year, which isn't totally surprising considering the injury-bug hits you more often as you get older.

The habs may very well decide to keep him and overpay him. But it may prove to be a mistake in the long run. As i said, he's not getting any younger, and he'll slowly start to decline. By the way, the team must have a lot of doubts on whether or not he can remain healthy since there was no other reason why they signed Al Montoya as a free agent when they already had Mike Condon.

I actually wish Carey Price well and i do hope he plays most of the games for the habs. This way, I won't have to hear the same excuses again where the team wasn't so bad but only played badly because Carey Price wasn't playing.....that in some strange way, Carey Price's absence also happened to turn them into the league's worst-scoring team.

I expect the habs to make the playoffs this season. They're a slightly better team that last season. Shea Webber, Andrew Shaw & Alex Radulov were good acquistions. But people should not expect Radulov to be the second-coming of Alex Ovechkin. Radulov wasn't that great when he played in Nashville and wasn't even close to being the best player in the KHL. Plus he's playing in Michel Therrien's system, which will likely reduce his offensive output. Webber will be solid on defence for at least the next couple of years and will provide the much-needed leadership they've been lacking. Andrew Shaw will be a good pesky 3rd-4th liner. But where does this leave Brendan Gallagher? This will likely be Andrei Markov's final season with the habs. Will Nathan Beaulieu step up and play up to his potential? Will Max Pacioretty finish the season as habs captain? Will he be dealt away?
 

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Would that be the first 20 games mtl team or the last 62 games mtl team being slightly better? Like the Leafs, it wont take much to improve, especailly on the 62 game habs.

For every one person wanting to boycott and not buy tickets or merchandise there are 100 people lined up to take that spot, boycotts rarely work in anything ;)
I expect the habs to make the playoffs this season. They're a slightly better team that last season.
 

ocean

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.....For every one person wanting to boycott and not buy tickets or merchandise there are 100 people lined up to take that spot, boycotts rarely work in anything ;)

When people's wallets are concerned, they think twice about opening it. Especially, buying season tickets, when nobody is sure what they are getting for their 6000-11000$ .
While there may be "100 people lined up to take that spot"..... they will want big bargains for it.

http://montrealgazette.com/sports/h...-habs-dreadful-season-cheap-tickets-available
 

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Boycotts will not work. The more effective method of protest is to wear garbage bags over your head, hiding your identity, like these two:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/photos/2012/04/10fans-with-bags-over-their-heads

This is a sports tradition for the suffering fan, which traces its historical roots to New Orleans, where long suffering fans during the Saints 1-15 season wore the same bags over their heads in mass.
 

jalimon

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I agree too that a boycotts will never work in Montreal. We way too crazy about hockey.

Like Clemieux mentionned, what I hate about the team is the lack of french speaking players. Come on we have the chance to be unique in America. Why not load up the team with many french players that would show some grits and pride. It's only a human natural thing. When they last won the stanley cup in 93, there was 12 french players, half the fucking team! And only one stellar player, Roy, like now with Price.

I am not a separatist at all, completely the opposite. Still I do believe that a bunch of local french players would give the team the moral and identity boost it so badly need!

Cheers,
 

clemieux6

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Actually I was saying how I hate how the organization puts French first instead of the best possible candidate lol, I'm talking about the current GM compared to Pierre McGuire and earlier draft years where they drafted a French Canadian instead of a more complete player to appease the media.
 

jalimon

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Actually I was saying how I hate how the organization puts French first instead of the best possible candidate lol, I'm talking about the current GM compared to Pierre McGuire and earlier draft years where they drafted a French Canadian instead of a more complete player to appease the media.

Ho wow, french first! How many there is on the team? 1 or 2! The few they pick end up with so much pression to perform it's just too crazy. They should have way more. We have this opportunity to be different (in language only), why just not use it to build a team with pride? They should have 7 or 8 french speaking player, at all time :)

Cheers,
 

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Actually I was saying how I hate how the organization puts French first instead of the best possible candidate lol, I'm talking about the current GM compared to Pierre McGuire and earlier draft years where they drafted a French Canadian instead of a more complete player to appease the media.

That's bullshit. The only time they do this is when they hire a coach. Very few french-canadians play on that team and that's one beef i have about the team. It seems they'd rather give a job to a Russian or American instead of giving it to a good french-canadian boy.
 

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What utter rubbish. There are 30 teams, only one wins each year. On average, your team should win a cup 2 or 3 times in your lifetime.

Agreed. The boycott idea is as much of an impulsive reach for an easy artificially satisfying answer as banning pit bulls. What Montreallers are experiencing with their team is the natural fact that teams, often truly great teams may not win, and that can go on for many years. It also may have plenty to do with greater parity of resources. In the past the Canadiens both developed a scouting system ahead of it's time and bought out the entire Quebec Senior Hockey League to control an enormous range of the best up and coming young hockey prospects. Quite a strong advantage not to mention only 5 pro teams to compete against. Now since that advantage and it's benefits have disappeared 30 teams compete with more balance than ever before. A boycott cannot change what skill, intelligence, foresight, and some luck cannot bring.

Sometimes the greatest, the better teams just don't win. The Buffalo Bills were a great dynasty in the NFL. They didn't win but they may have been the greatest team of their time regardless. It just turned out that way. I'm not saying accept the situation. I'm saying some quick fix attempt won't get what takes hard work, skill, and some luck to achieve. To boycott because the team hasn't won a championship is a failure to deal with the nature of sports competition. More balanced competition, and that it takes more to win it all even if your team has every advantage.

It's not necessarily about Price, any other player, or the organization. It's just hasn't been your time for a while.

Cheers
 

ocean

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What utter rubbish. There are 30 teams, only one wins each year. On average, your team should win a cup 2 or 3 times in your lifetime. The absurd idea that the Habs haven't won a cup because they have good fan support and therefore aren't trying. Under that idiotic theory, the poorly supported Coyotes and Blue Jackets would be the NHL powerhouses today. As for throwing jerseys on the ice or putting bags over one's head, such puerile antics may make a fan feel better, but it's not as if such nonsense actually spurs a team on to victory.




If you enjoy the games and believe you are getting $100+ (or whatever you pay for your ticket) of entertainment value, go to the games. If not, don't.


It's because of attitudes like this there will be 21000 suckers at the bell centre each night ......
Equating a team like Phoenix to Montreal is ridiculous. There is a difference between a city that
can't support a decent team versus a premium market team like the habs. The habs are sort of like
The son of a rich business man that needs his ass kicked.

Jacques Demers knew this when he started practice at 6am . He told his players if you play like shit you will need to do a regular job and wake up at 5 am ..... or start getting better . They got the message .
 

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The habs are sort of like
The son of a rich business man that needs his ass kicked.

If anyone thinks it's just a matter of a privileged kid only needing to get his head straight it's your first and worst mistake. And what kind of idea is it that fans should not be loyal when a team doesn't win championships. Don't stick with the team through the bad times, even when it's really not that bad at all??? PEEUUUU! Talk about a sunshine fan. Sounds very spoiled.
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Doc Holliday

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Jacques Demers knew this when he started practice at 6am . He told his players if you play like shit you will need to do a regular job and wake up at 5 am ..... or start getting better . They got the message .

That was back in the days when few players earned more than their coaches. Today, very few players earn less than their coaches and they know the deck is stacked against the coach if they decide they want him out. There are now also collective bargaining issues involved which affect when and how often practices can be held.

Also, a boycott would't if people continued to watch them on tv. A more effective boycott would be if people didn't watch them at all on tv. With the number of viewers down, advertising would be down considerably and that's where the team would suffer the most.
 

ocean

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That was back in the days when few players earned more than their coaches. Today, very few players earn less than their coaches and they know the deck is stacked against the coach if they decide they want him out. There are now also collective bargaining issues involved which affect when and how often practices can be held.Also, a boycott would't if people continued to watch them on tv. A more effective boycott would be if people didn't watch them at all on tv. With the number of viewers down, advertising would be down considerably and that's where the team would suffer the most.

I agree and did say that in my original statement. I think its atrocious that I have to buy 2 ! TV channels--RDS +TVA SPORTS. , (in addition to basic cable), just to see a full habs season. If nothing else cancelling TVA Sports + RDS will send a strong message. In addition to not buying tickets or merchandise.


.... what kind of idea is it that fans should not be loyal when a team doesn't win championships. Don't stick with the team through the bad times, even when it's really not that bad at all??? ..... .

Expecting that the Habs should at least make it to the Stanley Cup ,...let alone win it once every quarter century ..... makes me disloyal ? tolerating 25 Years of excuses.... is not fidelity?
 

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I agree and did say that in my original statement. I think its atrocious that I have to buy 2 ! TV channels--RDS +TVA SPORTS. , (in addition to basic cable), just to see a full habs season. If nothing else cancelling TVA Sports + RDS will send a strong message. In addition to not buying tickets or merchandise.




Expecting that the Habs should at least make it to the Stanley Cup ,...let alone win it once every quarter century ..... makes me disloyal ? tolerating 25 Years of excuses.... is not fidelity?

Personally RDS comes with the regular cable package, so i usually watch games there but i refuse to pay an extra for a second rate channel like TVA Sports. I watched some games on the computer trough streaming last years and 2 years ago and i don't enjoy those game at all. The commentator bother me, he is no Pierre Houde. And just the fact that you have to pay extra is a no go for me. I wish hockey would be back at RDS for all games. Or if TVA Sport want it ... then get it all, hire Pierre Houde and thats it... But the current formula is terrible.

That being said, for the CH poor performances last year, i stoped watching when it became crappy... I am ok with them loosing some, its normal, but when you loose 4-5 , win 1 then loose again 6 times... no thanks.

New season, no year, so ill start watching when the real thing start, and we will see how it goes. I think if Price stay Healthy it will be different. After all, Michel Therrien system is call "The Carey Price System" for a reason. And if things go south... then ill stop watching like last year... simple as that. I don't go see games live or such so for this it does not change anything for me.
 

ocean

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I think that the boycott HAS to start now , for it to work. At least boycott now, and pick up RDS , TVA sports, IF ..... they make it in to the playoffs.
I vow not to purchase anything unless they make it to round 2 of the playoffs. Or I guess ..... this will be another season where I buy cheap red seats
and prestige platinum seats at cut rate. I wonder how the season tickets are doing?
 
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