Indefinite Leave of Absence

[Doggyluver]

A couple of things have caused me to give pause and led me to decide to take a leave of absence from this hobby. I will continue to peruse the board and will comment where i think my opinion might be warranted.

About two months ago I had arranged to see an SP ( who will remain anonymous ) and while in the room of the motel she was receiving at ( I had just arrived and we were just talking ) and she told me she was having problems with her boyfriend. She asked my opinion ( he is married ) and I told her the situation although none of my business, would never change. He would never leave his wife and she should consider moving on. Then comes a knock on the door, yup the boyfriend banging and yelling at the door. I waited while she sent him a text asking him to just move away and let me leave. He did and was at the front door of the motel as I exited. I don't know what he said but all I replied was that " Not cool " and continued to walk out the motel. He then proceeds to sucker punch me in the back of the head. Needless to say after that I was in no position to defend myself and got in my car and let them both leave.

A couple of weeks ago I visited a beautiful young SP ( who will also remain anonymous ) and she informed me that a client had come to her incall location and attacked her without any provocation. I thought, what if I or another client had been there at the time, same thing might have happened as the other in Laval.

A week ago, I had made an appointment with an SP working for an agency in Laval. When I arrived at the location ( motel ) I was parked in the parking lot waiting to go in and the place was crawling with pimps and what I suspect were drug dealers. I have nothing against these people but knew I was in a location that could be a problem under the wrong circumstances. The girl I had the appointment with decided she had enough for the day and told the booker she was leaving. They tried to book me with another girl but I decided that I would be best to leave the area.

Yesterday, I went to another agency, also a motel and had booked a girl for an hour and we are about 30 mins in when there comes a knock on the door. She goes to the door and looks through the peep hole and then comes back to the bed. The individual continues to knock, harder and harder. Eventually she calls the desk and asks them to have this person leave, which they do. I was uneasy and although I finished what I had paid for, decided that perhaps it was time to step back and take a break.

I wish you all the best of luck and implore you all hobbiests and providers to be careful.


Doggyluver............ out......for now

 

[jalimon]

Doggy a long time member like you going to motel in the suburbs? It's a big no go!

Come back soon!

Cheers,

 

[Flyingby]

All i read was. Shady motel. Pimp. Shady motel shady escort. Shady escort shdy place. Incall story about sp was on twitter. Very sad story. Doggy you’re a good guy. Good luck

 

[cloudsurf]

So far there is only one lesson in this thread. Stay out of seedy motels.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I consulted this expert, he pondered, and said one word:

It was: Outcall

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Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly what I thought reading that long opening post.

 

[starcraft1]

Sorry to hear all these bas stories. Looks like it's time for you to move on too.

 

[Meta not Meta]

So far there is only one lesson in this thread. Stay out of seedy motels.

Exactly ... the problem isn't "Incall," per se; it's the agencies, providers and locations the OP is dealing with .... with reputable Incall agencies/indies such problems are nearly inconceivable.

 

[UncleBob]

Stories like Duggy and EasyGoing are more and more common.

There has been few thread about this but it's all related to the Ad's sites getting more and more shady...
There's always been B&S but I believe we reached some peaks like never.
(Is it caused by C-36, don't know. Seeking Arrangment sites? I believe so... Ad's sites now regroup mostly ugly girls, non gfe, and junkies)

That favorises the increase of MERB agencies/indies prices as the gap between the two worlds is more obvious as ever.
Not sure if it is the only reason of the increase but I think the demand for reputable, drama free SP's has increased because of the Ad's sites going downhill.
More clients are aware of the existence of merb, of the risks of ad's sites etc...
I did not quit, but I slowed down a lot and try to stick to good ones as much as possible.

Hunting for new gems on ad's sites is more and more difficult as they are very well hidden and most of them gets recruted quicly by the well known agencies...

For many reasons, Reputable agencies/indies are still not for me though.
But I might try them eventually once in a while...

 

[TigerWould]

I've been using seeking arrangement lately and have been very successful. Lots of women there need financial help and are very real and nice. Sex is incredible and real. They don't as for much usually 200 each time I see them but time is unlimited. Won't be using SP's for a while. Having a blast!

 

[CLOUD 500]

All that UncleBob said I agree with. Only thing is I noticed a big shift since Bill C-36 and this is what they were wanting to do to make the business as inhospitable as possible to reduce demand. Bill C-36 goes after the clients and women as seen as the victims which I consider to be a very sexist law and more often then not it is the clients who are the victims. Having said that we are now seeing a lot of shady ads, almost all ads have fake pics, almost all ads are using phone apps. Most of the girls remind of me of the same attitude I seen at stripclubs, the girls are lazy, they want quick easy money with no effort, they got no respect for the craft, they got no respect for the clients, and they really do not care to have regular clients so do not care to satisfy them. Their goal is to get the most cash for the least. With sites like Merb the situation is completely different and if it were not for that I would never book an escort.

 

[Russ_Meyer]

I feel the same way as UncleBob. Nicely said, Sir.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Exept that one if it is who i think it is

A couple of weeks ago I visited a beautiful young SP ( who will also remain anonymous ) and she informed me that a client had come to her incall location and attacked her without any provocation. I thought, what if I or another client had been there at the time, same thing might have happened as the other in Laval.

All the others are the type of "you knew the risk buddy"

Personally i will always prefer outcall for many reasons i stated numerous time, but one of them is obviously safety. I choose the location, i KNOW the location (where are the exits, who work there etc) and i feel like i am at a secondary residence when i am at my usual outcall place (wich is 80% of the time if not more)

Our well known agencies and indies here on merb may be totally safe incall places, but as soon as you walk into unknown territory of backpage ads and others, you expose yourself to risk. I would never take that risk even if im big, know how to defend myself etc. Im not bulletproof or superman and i know there is not much i could do vs 2-3 big bad guys, even less if they are armed.

If you want to take a break, then take a break... but why not just stick with the good agencies and indies of merb?

 

[CLOUD 500]

Personally i will always prefer outcall for many reasons i stated numerous time, but one of them is obviously safety. I choose the location, i KNOW the location (where are the exits, who work there etc) and i feel like i am at a secondary residence when i am at my usual outcall place (wich is 80% of the time if not more)

Our well known agencies and indies here on merb may be totally safe incall places, but as soon as you walk into unknown territory of backpage ads and others, you expose yourself to risk. I would never take that risk even if im big, know how to defend myself etc. Im not bulletproof or superman and i know there is not much i could do vs 2-3 big bad guys, even less if they are armed.

I am the opposite to you. I hate outcall. There is Taylor of MSC I would like to book but I am hesitating due to it being outcall. Having said that my opinion on Backpage and the like is it is not worth it. To spend your hard earned money on shit service plus to expose yourself to danger and being ripped off is all not worth just to pay for sex. Just stick with Merb agencies and Merb independents. If there was no Merb I would be out of this.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I am the opposite to you. I hate outcall.

I supose its because you have to rent the room and it cost $? Otherwise i see no real downside to outcall. You can be showered, prepared and ready when she arrive, when you are done and she leave you can relax, shower again, chill out with a beer, do whatever you want instead of having to go outside in the heat/cold and walk/drive your car.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I supose its because you have to rent the room and it cost $? You can be showered, prepared and ready when she arrive, when you are done and she leave you can relax, shower again, chill out with a beer.

Yes the cost is one thing but also waiting in the room is another thing I hate. I rent those four hour room at a motel and waiting in the room till the escort arrives is not my thing. After she leaves I leave right away. I rather chill and shower in my own home. Lol

 

[EagerBeaver]

Although I am not as in tune with this scene as Uncle Bob and defer to his observations on the local scene, there is a similar type of scene in the USA (which is particularly thriving in New Jersey), and these kinds of risks were always inherent in that scene. I recall one post on the BestGFE board some years ago describing a very similar incident where the boyfriend/pimp showed up and started banging on the door, eventually forcing his way in. What ensued was first a fistfight, and then a stabbing of the poster, which he described in excruciating detail. He said that he could not go to a hospital for personal security reasons (wanted no LE involvement, probably didn’t want questions asked about where he was and who stabbed him.) So he stitched himself up, describing the techniques he had used to stitch and suture his wounds and begging members of the board to advise him whether his suture technique was appropriate and to seek advice on antibiotic salves and pills.

To say that post was sad and pathetic would be an understatement and when I read the OP’s post I was reminded of it. Some guys accept the risk for financial reasons and some for thrill of the adventure. Either way it’s a risk and when it comes home to roost it sucks but goes with the turf.

I think there is always a risk with the alternative board scenes, the lower end incalls etc. Sometimes they will come home to roost.

 

[cpp433]

I never have or ever will do incall, i only use the best reviewed agencys on merb, i never have or will see an indy, it has served me well and for the 10 years ive never had one scintilla of any sort of problem, i will never understand why guys go with lesser known agencys and girls, its not like you could run out of known legit girls to see unless you live there and literally see at least one girl every single day and wont repeat

 

[EagerBeaver]

Yes the cost is one thing but also waiting in the room is another thing I hate. I rent those four hour room at a motel and waiting in the room till the escort arrives is not my thing. After she leaves I leave right away. I rather chill and shower in my own home. Lol

I recently rented a room at a Hampton Inn in the USA to see a girl I met on Seeking Arrangement and I kind of agree with this. When I am in Montreal staying in a hotel I am there for the duration, but I don’t like staying at hotels closer to home. After she left I checked out even though I rented the room for the whole night. I got a good rate on the Hotel Tonight app and knew what hotel I was getting, chosen mainly because it was down the road from the restaurant where I met the Seeking Arrangement girl.

 

[jalimon]

I must bring here a different point of view.

Ok I came to the hobby pretty much as c-36 settled in so I do not know how it was before. But i can say how it is right now.

On the Montreal agency and merb advertising indy front all is absolutely amazing. Fucking awesome and really this makes Montreal one of the best location in the world to do this.

On the pure indy scene from sites like backpage, humpchies, AI and 123 it's a fucking jungle. But I must admit I must have developed tarzan's skills as I am having some really great encounters from that jungle.

By following some simple rules I manage to get my way around and have some fabulous encounter at a very good $. Encounters that are usually short but frequent.

The basic rules are simple. No motel, no montreal north or st-leonard, real pics and a real phone call on first meet (or a vouch from another merbiste here which can then void all these rules altogether).

Some of these indies are now giving me the time of my life and I have never ever felt unsafe or meet a pimp or anything close to that.

Ok ok sometime these indy girls will not be as sharp as agency girl. Just stay nice and cool and you will be rewarded

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

Personally, I dislike the existence of the lower-end scene anywhere. Nothing good comes from it for a guy seeing a "merb-reviewed" type lady in the $180-$300 an hour range.

As far as montreal is concerned, you are dead wrong here. This is for the US.

Cheers,