Interac eTransfer deposits reveal real name of senders

[Baygon]

Some independent service providers require deposits by Interac eTransfer. The issue with that is that it forces the client who sends the interac eTransfer to reveal their full legal name, as it is included in the transfer notification email sent to the receiver.

There are currently only a couple banks (CIBC among them) who allow their customers to use a different name for the purposes of sending an Interac eTransfer.

Almost all service providers use pseudonyms so I think it's fair for their clients to be able to "hobby" under pseudonyms as well.

Alternative payment methods that allow senders and receivers to send funds without revealing their real names: Wealthsimple Cash, Paypal

 

[TheJames101]

so does caller ID, at times.

 

[Anna Bijou]

Some independent service providers require deposits by Interac eTransfer. The issue with that is that it forces the client who sends the interac eTransfer to reveal their full legal name, as it is included in the transfer notification email sent to the receiver.

There are currently only a couple banks (CIBC among them) who allow their customers to use a different name for the purposes of sending an Interac eTransfer.

Almost all service providers use pseudonyms so I think it's fair for their clients to be able to "hobby" under pseudonyms as well.

Alternative payment methods that allow senders and receivers to send funds without revealing their real names: Wealthsimple Cash, Paypal

I wish more people joined wealthsimple cash. It's pretty much the only true option as PayPal is notorious for closing the accounts of Sex workers. I don't use it anymore. There is the risk of chargebacks which happened to me. I was lucky I won but I'm not messing with PayPal again.

Many providers will also accept giftcards instead of transfers.

 

[TatianaM]

Some independent service providers require deposits by Interac eTransfer. The issue with that is that it forces the client who sends the interac eTransfer to reveal their full legal name, as it is included in the transfer notification email sent to the receiver.

There are currently only a couple banks (CIBC among them) who allow their customers to use a different name for the purposes of sending an Interac eTransfer.

Almost all service providers use pseudonyms so I think it's fair for their clients to be able to "hobby" under pseudonyms as well.

Alternative payment methods that allow senders and receivers to send funds without revealing their real names: Wealthsimple Cash, Paypal

I totally understand your concern. A lot of indie providers ask for a piece of ID, LinkedIn or and other ways of screening. Why do you think we have such policies? We are the one putting ourselves at risk. Screening is liability. A way to protect ourselves. It’s not a hobby you can compare to playing golf or watching football. You have to understand the impacts and effects the industry has and to be a responsable consumer is to a knowledge this and accept changes that improve the community and safety both ways! This is the future of safe s*x work.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Cash is king! I agree to some accommodations for the first encounter. Black mailing is also a concern for the patron. Not an easy situation.

 

[Fradi]

Sorry but deposits do not ensure anybody’s safety that is total BS.
There are just as many scumbags with money as without, sometimes even more.
For sure if you say it gets rid of time wasters that I agree with, I am not one of them, if I book you and I cancel within 48 hrs for what ever reason I will pay the full amount, my word is worth more than a couple of hundred dollars.
Screening as far as government ID LInkedIn I understand but I would never provide to someone I don’t know never met before no matter how stellar their reputation. Yes SP are far more at risk but the clients risk is not 0 either there is a reason real names are not used on both sides.
I will stick to providers that are comfortable with a reference from another provider and the ones that ask for a deposit regardless of how many times you have seen them I would totally avoid, if they cannot trust you after they have seen you a couple of times then what is the point of seeing them again.
There are a couple that I have seen before that have adopted this process and I will not see them again, I know it is no big deal for them as they are very popular but we all live by our own principles or quirks call it whatever you want.

 

[What's My Name]

I will stick to providers that are comfortable with a reference from another provider and the ones that ask for a deposit regardless of how many times you have seen them I would totally avoid, if they cannot trust you after they have seen you a couple of times then what is the point of seeing them again.
There are a couple that I have seen before that have adopted this process and I will not see them again, I know it is no big deal for them as they are very popular but we all live by our own principles or quirks call it whatever you want.

Hey Fradi, that is nuts that even after seeing you they still want ID or an E-transfer, very nuts, I would do the same. Usually after the first time you are good for no more deposits or ID...I am glad this has never happened to me.,

 

[Fradi]

Hey Fradi, that is nuts that even after seeing you they still want ID or an E-transfer, very nuts, I would do the same. Usually after the first time you are good for no more deposits or ID...I am glad this has never happened to me.,

It hasn’t actually happened but a couple of ladies that I saw before made it a policy that they want a deposit for all encounters regardless of previous history.
I simply never contacted them again when I read that, not sure if they would have actually enforced it but I don’t argue with a ladies wishes or requirements if I decide to see them I will play by whatever their rules are without question. I thought it best to just avoid them there are plenty of gorgeous ladies who do not have this type of a requirement.

 

[TatianaM]

Sorry but deposits do not ensure anybody’s safety that is total BS.
There are just as many scumbags with money as without, sometimes even more.
For sure if you say it gets rid of time wasters that I agree with, I am not one of them, if I book you and I cancel within 48 hrs for what ever reason I will pay the full amount, my word is worth more than a couple of hundred dollars.
Screening as far as government ID LInkedIn I understand but I would never provide to someone I don’t know never met before no matter how stellar their reputation. Yes SP are far more at risk but the clients risk is not 0 either there is a reason real names are not used on both sides.
I will stick to providers that are comfortable with a reference from another provider and the ones that ask for a deposit regardless of how many times you have seen them I would totally avoid, if they cannot trust you after they have seen you a couple of times then what is the point of seeing them again.
There are a couple that I have seen before that have adopted this process and I will not see them again, I know it is no big deal for them as they are very popular but we all live by our own principles or quirks call it whatever you want.

It’s not about the deposit it’s about knowing the persons identity. You misread me. Most girls have different options when it comes to screening to accommodate clients. Reference/ID/deposit/LinkedIn etc. What strikes me is clients expecting us to trust them when we don’t know them at all. Sorry but a promise isn’t enough. Have you heard of some people lying to get what they want? In this industry, client and providers can’t allow themself to be so naive. Some girls just don’t have the privilege and leverage to ask for screening, unfortunately.

 

[Fradi]

It’s not about the deposit it’s about knowing the persons identity. You misread me

I don’t think I miss read you at all.
I was replying to the original thread which is about e transfers as a deposit which identifies the clients real identity.
Deposits don’t do squat for safety having the real name does, however I would not do that with an SP I have never met no matter how good her reputation is.
While I agree I do not face the same kind of risks as the SP my privacy is still important to me and I do not want a bank transaction as proof of me seeing her or giving her money.
If it is a second or third meeting wanting a deposit to me it is kind of insulting, now you can disagree with that as much as you like but I would not see someone who would ask me for that for a repeat meeting and it has nothing to do with money.

 

[Fradi]

It’s not about the deposit it’s about knowing the persons identity. You misread me. Most girls have different options when it comes to screening to accommodate clients. Reference/ID/deposit/LinkedIn etc. What strikes me is clients expecting us to trust them when we don’t know them at all. Sorry but a promise isn’t enough. Have you heard of some people lying to get what they want? In this industry, client and providers can’t allow themself to be so naive. Some girls just don’t have the privilege and leverage to ask for screening, unfortunately.

I am not against screening at all
You can ask for references from other SP you can ask me for my Merb handle I will be happy to provide both.
I will not provide my real name to someone I don’t know or never met nor offer a bank transaction as proof that can be linked to an illegal activity ( bill C36 is not very friendly to clients)
I am not naive about the dangers SP face nor should you be about the client.
You have a reputation to uphold to stay in business just like I have a reputation that I have established with providers I have seen.
Not believing in a promise I guess works both ways. Yes I have been around a while not just here but many places so not much to learn about unkept promises.
Bottom line in the end is we all do whatever we are comfortable with and what we can afford to do.
Nobody is naive here not you nor I.

 

[Theodore]

I don’t think I miss read you at all.
I was replying to the original thread which is about e transfers as a deposit which identifies the clients real identity.
Deposits don’t do squat for safety having the real name does, however I would not do that with an SP I have never met no matter how good her reputation is.
While I agree I do not face the same kind of risks as the SP my privacy is still important to me and I do not want a bank transaction as proof of me seeing her or giving her money.
If it is a second or third meeting wanting a deposit to me it is kind of insulting, now you can disagree with that as much as you like but I would not see someone who would ask me for that for a repeat meeting and it has nothing to do with money.

agreed!

 

[Baygon]

Cash is king! I agree to some accommodations for the first encounter. Black mailing is also a concern for the patron. Not an easy situation.

This, and I'm not saying it is the SP that will blackmail. But SPs are probably not cyber security experts and maybe someday, their phone/laptop may be hacked/stolen/lost and the personal information with real names or ID in those devices could land in the hands of third parties who could publish it or use that to blackmail.

 

[DrJ_TheGhost]

I refuse to send a picture/scan of an ID, but for those that do, do you black out your address, driver license number and just keep your real name? I am curious about what people will risk sending and what SPs will accept (since the ID is altered).

 

[Jonplayer69]

This, and I'm not saying it is the SP that will blackmail. But SPs are probably not cyber security experts and maybe someday, their phone/laptop may be hacked/stolen/lost and the personal information with real names or ID in those devices could land in the hands of third parties who could publish it or use that to blackmail

This, and I'm not saying it is the SP that will blackmail. But SPs are probably not cyber security experts and maybe someday, their phone/laptop may be hacked/stolen/lost and the personal information with real names or ID in those devices could land in the hands of third parties who could publish it or use that to blackmail.

If you are concerned about your identity or if you have an issue with following what some of the girls require, well then maybe you should just see another provider? One who does not ask for an Id or a deposit. At the same time you should understand that these Girls ask for deposits and screening simply for their own safety and security, they also want to make sure people dont waste their time.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

I refuse to send a picture/scan of an ID, but for those that do, do you black out your address, driver license number and just keep your real name? I am curious about what people will risk sending and what SPs will accept (since the ID is altered).

Even then, a short search of your picture on the web may reveal a lot about you. Sometime, being a nobody with no FB, Twitter or others account is a plus.
I stay on my stance, CASH is king.

 

[Aficionado]

This, and I'm not saying it is the SP that will blackmail. But SPs are probably not cyber security experts and maybe someday, their phone/laptop may be hacked/stolen/lost and the personal information with real names or ID in those devices could land in the hands of third parties who could publish it or use that to blackmail.

I agree with your statement Baygon......... I have a friend who bought a used laptop from a girl on kijiji, and believe it or not the darn this was full of xxx pictures of her, and we found out she was a camgirl amongst other things.

 

[Baygon]

If you are concerned about your identity or if you have an issue with following what some of the girls require, well then maybe you should just see another provider? One who does not ask for an Id or a deposit. At the same time you should understand that these Girls ask for deposits and screening simply for their own safety and security, they also want to make sure people dont waste their time.

That's what I do (pick one that doesn't ask to see ID). Never implied that I try to change the position of SP that ask for it.

I reckon that I'm lucky in that I started before the spread of ID verification and I can provide references and many SPs accept references as a screening method. But I imagine it will be more challenging for potential new service receivers to pass screening.

 

[joshg72826]

Even then, a short search of your picture on the web may reveal a lot about you. Sometime, being a nobody with no FB, Twitter or others account is a plus.
I stay on my stance, CASH is king.

You keep saying cash is king but the conversation is about a deposit which would mean prior to the meeting. How do you go about completing your cash "deposit"? Do you drop it at their door or snail mail it in an enveloppe? Both would require that element of trust already being established.
Edit: I suppose one could send to a UPS po box.

 

[envelopes]

I know this doesn't help anyone looking for a solution, since I haven't booked a provider who needs a deposit (I've seen so many SPs all over and seen high end SPs in the $1000 range too... I never got asked for a deposit... so I just avoid the ones who do).

That being said, I have been asked for ID and verification. Instead of giving that to them, I just provide references to agencies and indys I've seen in the past who know me. If they refuse that, then hey, good luck to them, I'll just move on. Most of the time, they are okay with taking those references.

I will never send ID or any personal details again. I made that mistake when I first started hobbying. It was my 5th or 6th time and I found a local agency. Sent them my ID and saw the SP. Everything seemed good. Then a couple months later, I started getting blackmail texts with the picture of my ID attached, and lots of very explicit sexual messages. Not sure if it was cops or actual blackmail... but since then, I have refused to send anything with my personal details attached to it.