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Is it better with your atf or with a new girl

Flyingby

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Are sessions better with your atf or with someone new
is the sex better with your atf or a new sp (new for you, not new to business)

i am undecided.

when meeting a girl for the first time there is some anticipation, will she be attractive. Will service be good.. the excitement makes for some killer sessions when you click. Personally those are the times I get the most SOG.
but, if the new girl is not to my liking...nothing good comes out and I leave disappointed

With my atf. The sex is just really really good. It can be slow and deep. Or fast and intense. But it lacks that build up of excitement from the unknown. You might get better mileage, but There is more obligatory chitchat in my opinion. So although the sex is much more intense. I don’t get my maximum sog. In the end, I never leave disappointed with those encounters
 
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Depends on why you got into this hobby. Back in the Eleganza days I would repeat with my favorites all of the time. Until my buddy said to me "we aren't coming to Montreal to bang the same chicks night after night, month after month, try something different." His comment was a bit blunt, but I took it to heart and never turned back. I now go out of my way to try someone different all the time over repeating with someone. If I wanted to bang someone regularly I would just get a girlfriend. But that's me, I have buddies that repeat all the time and I totally get it. But, I like to try new things and even if it's not a sure thing it's still a turn on for me.
 

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For sure it is better with my ATF.
There is nothing wrong with knowing that for sure you are going to have an absolutely fabulous time with a gorgeous woman.
I can’t say it is not exiting to see someone new from time to time and I have yet to see any Montreal SP that I could say I had a bad experience with.
My ATF though is one in a million in my eyes and I consider myself lucky to have met her and to be able to spend time with her so often.
 

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Great question @Flyingby .

Benefits with ATF is - You like her looks, how she speaks and you already have great chemistry. What I noticed with ATF, over time, their service declines due to I believe they think you are an easy repeat customer. They don't put any extra effort in the session. You will realize one day where that girl went, when you first met her. Every time you meet her, there will be lots of social time. Overall, the session always would be not too great, not too bad either. Just good enough.

On the other hand, what l found, new SPs actually put a lot of effort in the session and l always got a better service. Yes, there are times I was disappointed by how the new girl looks, of course.

Overall my conclusion on this is - if you are looking for great sex then go for newer girls. But if you are looking for affectation then go for your ATF.
 

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I like this topic. There are pros and cons to both.

Clearly (and this is something I've re-experienced very recently) the first experience with someone that truly turns you on can be very electric. Having sex with someone you have never met before is a real rush (again of course if the attraction is there and there is reciprocity). There must be some extra chemicals that fire off in your brain because it is like a drug. The downside is you cannot control when and where it will happen, usually requires a lot of hit and miss and much $$$.

Whereas a regular affords you a sure thing with no risk, with still a lot of reward (just not that crazy rush you get with an unexpectedly great first encounter). The trick is to not settle for someone because they are available and 'good enough'. If that regular is someone really great, well, there is pleasure in that too, getting to know them, genuinely interested in what's been up with them lately...It is almost like a friend with benfits...

the last thing you want to do is fall for a regular, then it's hell :)
 

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Great question @Flyingby .

Benefits with ATF is - You like her looks, how she speaks and you already have great chemistry. What I noticed with ATF, over time, their service declines due to I believe they think you are an easy repeat customer. They don't put any extra effort in the session. You will realize one day where that girl went, when you first met her. Every time you meet her, there will be lots of social time. Overall, the session always would be not too great, not too bad either. Just good enough.

On the other hand, what l found, new SPs actually put a lot of effort in the session and l always got a better service. Yes, there are times I was disappointed by how the new girl looks, of course.

Overall my conclusion on this is - if you are looking for great sex then go for newer girls. But if you are looking for affectation then go for your ATF.
I find this too be true, I have seen my atf for over a year now, but I remeber when I would see new girls they would put extra effort into the session. But in conclusion I prefer seeing my atf, I feel comforable with her and the chemistry is great. So at this stage to me it feel like I am visiting a girlfriend. Sounds weird, but I kind of like it better.
 
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ATF is the essence of it for me, although I have too many. I get the exciting anticipation of meeting a new hottie but knowing how risky and deceiving it can be is definately a challenge sometimes. I really have to be in a different mindset for it, as oppose to seeing a woman I already know well and click with. I sure dont like routine encounters but my adventurous side keeps me away from being predictable even if I am with someone I've seen several times in the past.
 

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atf for me ive got about 2 to 3 girls that are my favorite and i switch from one to another because i always feel better when i have good chemistry with a girl and i know i wont feel disapointed with ether of these girls but every once in a while i go for knew girl most of the time she will be under par of my favorites and then bingo you find one thats going to become your favorite so what im tryng to say is yes i like my favorites but im also looking for a knew high all the time if i had time and money i probably would try them all
 

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I think repeating leads to the best encounters, but there are diminishing returns when you repeat.

I find the best encounters are the 2nd time you see a provider that you really clicked with, because there's enough comfort and familiarity to lower inhibitions and to build on the first encounter, but without making things too familiar that the excitement disappears.

After about 3-5 encounters, it can become a bit too routine. It can also give you a false sense of attachment that imo defeats the purpose of seeing SPs. They're not there to be your girlfriend. That's pretty obvious of course, but see the same girl too often and your mind will start playing tricks on you. That's why I don't think having *one* ATF would be a good idea for me.

In my case, if I really click with an SP I'll repeat because it leads to the most memorable encounters, but I make sure not to overdue it and to see other providers in between. Eventually, I end up with a list of reliable girls that I can rotate through, with new ones being added slowly as older ones retire. Best of both worlds.
 

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ATF for me, especially if I need a relaxing time as it is usually a guaranteed pleasant time. The last two or three new girls I have seen were ok at best and I ended up disappointed.
I had to take a break from my ATF because she stopped putting effort in the session and in her hygiene when she knows I am next, which is a huge turn off. I still cannot get over last time. That is when I started repeating with girls I had a good time with to get a new ATF or two. Like that I am not always repeating with the same girl and hopefully they will always maintain a minimum effort during the encounter since I am not seeing them that often.
 

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I don't have ATFs because in time she will take things for granted. Remember SPs are human/women too.

When she does not put in the effort anymore and/or any action(s) that starts to resemble a civie relationship it means the whole thing has reached its ultimate and time to move on and make a quick get away. It is no where but downhill afterwards especially you feel the sex is going vanilla. Personally I am not in the hobby to experience vanilla. I want to be WOWed. Quasi-relationship status with a woman in this game is an absolute avoid at all cost. That was why I was willing to go pay 2 play. To avoid the meh that you will face when "not" paying for it. I will surely have memorable moments but I will not have ATF because an ATF can surely turn into a possible nightmare at any time. Once you know and experience that pinnacle with a woman in the hobby, be very careful in your next steps. In my experience the whole thing goes to shit after the third encounter especially the last two were dinner engagements.
 
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I occasionally try someone new out of curiosity, but it's not as good as with my favorite.
I know I will be devastated when my favorite retires, so I try to enjoy her company while I can.
 
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Numerati

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Haha ! Look like many guys here have an ATF ....Maybe we all have the same ATF ! :) that will be so funny
That poor girl must be so busy
Well for one if you see a girl with 20 pages of rave reviews what do you think? LOL. That is just on merb. Then if she has other reviews on other boards.

Welcome. You are automatically inducted into the Sloppy Seconds Fan Club.
 
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Great timing of this thread from the OP .... and yess as always it seems that the Van Buren Boys have kept the best and are talking up the rest (for the rest ) haha
 
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A couple of guys who are regulars on MERB have had new ATFs every month. I call these guys Flavor of the Month hobbyists. People read their reviews and see the ATF branding and think it's special, but don't know that there were 20 other ATFs before the current one. Enough with that BS. The term is overused and completely diluted.

New girl.
 
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